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posted ago by snwbrder697 ago by snwbrder697 +24 / -0

Its a question of "would you rather".

  1. Rule in favor of Joe Biden to try and avoid violence (likely wont work). As a result erode ALL trust in our Constitutional Republic for 70+ million Americans

  2. Rule in favor of Trump and start civil unrest like this country has never seen. However, in the process you destroy the possibility of the Democratic party and at least in part, restore faith in our election process.

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preferredfault 5 points ago +5 / -0

If the courts don't rule properly on this, Trump has every right to use presidential powers to nullify the election. The president has every prerogative to not allow an election to be stolen with fraud. If they are allowed to get away with it today, then conservatives and fair elections are done in this country, because they can then steal any and every election from now on. It simply cannot stand.

At that point, all Democrats can do is try to impeach again....which they won't get....and even if they did, Pence would still be in charge. So if worse comes to worst, Trump can keep Biden from taking office and we would at least get Pence for the next 4 years. That's if Trump really wants to pull the nuclear option on them. And there won't be a damn thing they could do about it. Trump would have nothing to lose at that point...and you know what they say about a man with nothing to lose.

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SirDonaldJTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

What is the Presidential power to nullify an election?

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bellcurvestrikesback 2 points ago +2 / -0

Insurrection act

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snwbrder697 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think its actually the 14th Amendment. Something about states acting in bad faith can have their electoral votes rejected by the President.

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SirDonaldJTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

SCOTUS need not even get involved. SCOTUS is actually the last option and I doubt anything more than one or two issue would go there. 100's of cases have to be filed in lower courts - we are battling 4 or 5 states in this. Already - PA, NV, AZ, GA. It goes through state courts, federal courts, state supreme court. All regarding counting, removal of fake ballots, recounting, certifications etc.

There's also another way - the state legislature can discard the voting results and pick the electoral college delegates and any cases from this could land at SCOTUS even in Jan 2021 or later.

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Joedirt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Audits.

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snwbrder697 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agree that trust in our Election process is the #1 thing they must preserve. Without it there is no point to anything else. You are essentially living under an Oligarchy/Dictatorship.

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Muffinman 1 point ago +1 / -0

I do not envy being a Supreme Court Justice right now.

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iamherefortheluls 1 point ago +1 / -0

serious? there is actually no question about how they rule. The deciding question on who wins this election is actually WHEN they rule.

take a look at this for quick education on how horribly they have handled the last time something like this has happened:

https://www.history.com/news/2000-election-bush-gore-votes-supreme-court

Key paragraph is this

“At that point there were actually two key votes,” Hasen says. “The first was a 7-2 determination that the Florida recount, as it was being conducted, was unconstitutional on the grounds that there were no clear standards that were being applied consistently to all ballots.

Then, by a 5-4 vote, the court declared that time had run out to devise a remedy. That stopped the process, with Bush ahead.”

This is my biggest worry. In making that decision in 2000, the paved the road for this shitshow we see today because they sent a clear message "It's okay to cheat, so long as you make it convoluted enough that it takes a long time to unravel"

Since than, there was another case in Al Franken 2010 Senate elections - where it was found that illegal votes by felons swung that election. But those results were allowed to stand because it took so long to investigate.

Tl,DR: United States judicial system has a consistent pattern of letting election fraud slide.