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Dereliction 21 points ago +21 / -0

How is it fair? They've massively cheated and got caught. They shouldn't be offered a redo. The pool of ballots they poisoned should be disqualified, end of story. Disenfranchised voters should direct their ire and lawyers to the Democrat party and the election in 2022.

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PeaceThroughStrength 17 points ago +17 / -0

We haven't proven they cheated yet.

We need to prove these things to a certain standard.

Rudy Guiliani is an idol of mine. I would have wanted to work for him in Greenberg Traurig but the Trump Presidency happened. I trust GEOTUS and I trust Rudy.

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Dereliction 10 points ago +10 / -0

Maybe I'm operating under an erroneous understanding here, but it seems that there's only one reason to prevent dozens of poll observers from being able to do their job, and to further defy an order by the Supreme Court, and that's fraud.

While it hasn't yet been presented in court, there are literally dozens of witnesses and statements under oath already made known by Rudy. Barring some sort of corruption or FUBAR legal prescription, fraud seems to only sane conclusion a court (or other observer) can find. I fail to see how letting the fraudsters have a second attempt is any sort of remedy.

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the_pragmaticist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Frankly, that has to be proven in court and then we can lay it on the table.

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PeaceThroughStrength 2 points ago +2 / -0

I know.

I don't know what to say but atm all we have are our convictions and opinions, and to allow the system to be robust enough to pull through despite the subversion.

Ballot Box (Failed); Jury Box (You are here); Ammo Box (Loaded and full).

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kyblugrass 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'll put this out there and I'm hoping you might have some insight, if fraud is proven and shows that the results are not valid, would this then just go to the electors? Or will the electors need a special vote after the audit before they cast their vote?