The instructor asks them to consider the case of someone whose absentee ballot was identified as "sent" and "received". She tells them not to issue them a ballot, which is correct. "He's already voted, there's no reason for him to vote again, at all." She then follows up that a provisional ballot can be given by the chairperson that will not go in the tabulator.
That is correct, and what I'd expect. The video implies the absentee ballot could have been lost but if that were the case it would not be marked as "received".
At what time marks does the video identify training encouraging felon activity?
That part makes sense and is the correct procedure for that situation. Do you recall weeks back when Trump suggested that if voters vote by mail- they should go in on Election Day to verify that their ballot was received? This one piece of correct training was for that situation. A situation that if it occurred, the voter would probably be voting Republican.
There’s several incorrect things in the video, I’m not sure how you missed. It’s written out in text after she says things. Things in opposition to the law.
THIS! What points does she make that break MI law? Can someone find the absentee ballot rules or the challenged ballot rules? The only thing "sketchy" was her attitude regarding those evil poll watchers.
Was this 6ft gap required? She implies they can use it to prevent those evil poll watchers from viewing. Why would she want to do that? That's not conducive to a fair election.
I only skimmed the rest but what was the 6 days and destroy it? She sounds like that's some kind of feature they will exploit
I'd agree the 6ft is somewhat "sketchy" but this is a plandemic that many of our population believes in, and for them it's not sketchy at all. So if the only thing we have is that she subjectively implies that the six feet could be used to facilitate chicanery, I'd argue that we have smoke here, but not fire.
We shouldn't share videos with partially bad information. Scrape the good stuff and re-upload. Anything less discredits us.
Nothing really seems too sketchy about it. If a poll watcher or challenger is being loud and disruptive, calling the police seems like the right call. That person has violated the standard of conduct required, and really, there's no reason for that shit.
But in any event, Poll watchers don't have the same rights as Poll Challengers in Michigan. Poll watchers aren't allowed to challenge a person's right to vote, and they're not allowed to position themselves behind the elections' processing table.
This outlines the rules regarding Michigan Challengers and Poll Watchers
Honestly, this video seems like garbage to me. The information in it is incomplete or misleading.
For instance, when she's talking about provisional ballots, she mentions that they have six days. The video then cuts to what is the department going to do with it? Destroy it.
In that example, she told them to issue the dude a provisional ballot. Under Michigan law, the clerk then has six days to determine whether the individual who voted on the provisional ballot was eligible to vote and if they are, the vote is counted.
The provisional ballots aren't some kind of placebo that they give to people so they'll go away.
Why would they do anything with provisional ballots if the total number of them wouldnt make a difference in the outcome of the election? They should be put aside until the final tabulation of valid ballots is complete and if there aren't enough prov. ballots to change the outcome, then you're done. Otherwise you are wasting your time trying to verify ballot info for what? Those ballots should never get near a tabulator unless they have been fully vetted.
One of the first blatant instances showing theyre planning on committing fraud is when she explains the 6 feet rule
She basically says to not give them 6 feet behind you so they cant watch you "Unless they have real good vision or brought their binoculars"
Why would she be worried about challengers viewing what theyre doing if they werent doing anything wrong? Why are they trying to make it difficult for them to observe?
She also tells them to give challenged ballots to Mr Stark so he can put them in the tabulator when they arent supposed to go in the tabulator until they are reviewed. If you put challenged ballots in the tabulator then there was literally no reason to challenge them in the first place
Challenged ballots in Michigan go in the tabulator because the challenge is dealt with at the polling station:
In an instance where a challenger has “good reason to believe” that a voter is not qualified to vote in the precinct, how is the challenge handled?Such a challenge must be directed to the chairperson of the precinct board. After the challenge is issued, the chairperson of the precinct board or an election inspector designated by the chairperson is responsible for supervising the challenge to make sure that it is conducted promptly and courteously.
The challenge proceeds as follows:
1)After the challenge is made, the challenged person takes the oath printed below. The oath is administered by the chairperson of the precinct board or a designated election inspector.“I swear (or affirm) that I will truly answer all questions put to me concerning my qualifications as a voter.”
2)After the oath has been administered, the precinct chairperson or a designated election inspector may question the challenged voter. Election law stipulates that the questions be confined to the person’s qualifications as a voter (citizenship, age, residency and date of registration).
3)A challenged voter is permitted to vote a specially prepared “challenged ballot” if the answers given under oath prove that he or she is qualified to vote in the precinct. A challenged voter may not vote if he or she refuses to take the oath, refuses to answer appropriate questions under oath or is found to be not qualified to vote through the answers given under oath.
4)A complete record of the challenge must be entered on the “CHALLENGED VOTERS” page in the Poll Book. The record must include the name of the person making the challenge; the time of the challenge; the name, address and telephone number of the person challenged; and any other pertinent information.
I dunno if this is the video we should be sharing. Consider for example at this mark:
https://youtu.be/LBwwuRm4Pxo?t=547
The instructor asks them to consider the case of someone whose absentee ballot was identified as "sent" and "received". She tells them not to issue them a ballot, which is correct. "He's already voted, there's no reason for him to vote again, at all." She then follows up that a provisional ballot can be given by the chairperson that will not go in the tabulator.
That is correct, and what I'd expect. The video implies the absentee ballot could have been lost but if that were the case it would not be marked as "received".
At what time marks does the video identify training encouraging felon activity?
That part makes sense and is the correct procedure for that situation. Do you recall weeks back when Trump suggested that if voters vote by mail- they should go in on Election Day to verify that their ballot was received? This one piece of correct training was for that situation. A situation that if it occurred, the voter would probably be voting Republican.
There’s several incorrect things in the video, I’m not sure how you missed. It’s written out in text after she says things. Things in opposition to the law.
THIS! What points does she make that break MI law? Can someone find the absentee ballot rules or the challenged ballot rules? The only thing "sketchy" was her attitude regarding those evil poll watchers.
Was this 6ft gap required? She implies they can use it to prevent those evil poll watchers from viewing. Why would she want to do that? That's not conducive to a fair election.
I only skimmed the rest but what was the 6 days and destroy it? She sounds like that's some kind of feature they will exploit
I'd agree the 6ft is somewhat "sketchy" but this is a plandemic that many of our population believes in, and for them it's not sketchy at all. So if the only thing we have is that she subjectively implies that the six feet could be used to facilitate chicanery, I'd argue that we have smoke here, but not fire.
We shouldn't share videos with partially bad information. Scrape the good stuff and re-upload. Anything less discredits us.
Nothing really seems too sketchy about it. If a poll watcher or challenger is being loud and disruptive, calling the police seems like the right call. That person has violated the standard of conduct required, and really, there's no reason for that shit.
But in any event, Poll watchers don't have the same rights as Poll Challengers in Michigan. Poll watchers aren't allowed to challenge a person's right to vote, and they're not allowed to position themselves behind the elections' processing table.
This outlines the rules regarding Michigan Challengers and Poll Watchers
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/SOS_ED_2_CHALLENGERS_77017_7.pdf
These are the rules on absentee ballots:
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/VI_Michigans_Absentee_Voting_Process_265992_7.pdf
Honestly, this video seems like garbage to me. The information in it is incomplete or misleading.
For instance, when she's talking about provisional ballots, she mentions that they have six days. The video then cuts to what is the department going to do with it? Destroy it.
In that example, she told them to issue the dude a provisional ballot. Under Michigan law, the clerk then has six days to determine whether the individual who voted on the provisional ballot was eligible to vote and if they are, the vote is counted.
The provisional ballots aren't some kind of placebo that they give to people so they'll go away.
Why would they do anything with provisional ballots if the total number of them wouldnt make a difference in the outcome of the election? They should be put aside until the final tabulation of valid ballots is complete and if there aren't enough prov. ballots to change the outcome, then you're done. Otherwise you are wasting your time trying to verify ballot info for what? Those ballots should never get near a tabulator unless they have been fully vetted.
One of the first blatant instances showing theyre planning on committing fraud is when she explains the 6 feet rule
She basically says to not give them 6 feet behind you so they cant watch you "Unless they have real good vision or brought their binoculars"
Why would she be worried about challengers viewing what theyre doing if they werent doing anything wrong? Why are they trying to make it difficult for them to observe?
She also tells them to give challenged ballots to Mr Stark so he can put them in the tabulator when they arent supposed to go in the tabulator until they are reviewed. If you put challenged ballots in the tabulator then there was literally no reason to challenge them in the first place
Challenged ballots in Michigan go in the tabulator because the challenge is dealt with at the polling station:
In an instance where a challenger has “good reason to believe” that a voter is not qualified to vote in the precinct, how is the challenge handled?Such a challenge must be directed to the chairperson of the precinct board. After the challenge is issued, the chairperson of the precinct board or an election inspector designated by the chairperson is responsible for supervising the challenge to make sure that it is conducted promptly and courteously.
The challenge proceeds as follows:
1)After the challenge is made, the challenged person takes the oath printed below. The oath is administered by the chairperson of the precinct board or a designated election inspector.“I swear (or affirm) that I will truly answer all questions put to me concerning my qualifications as a voter.”
2)After the oath has been administered, the precinct chairperson or a designated election inspector may question the challenged voter. Election law stipulates that the questions be confined to the person’s qualifications as a voter (citizenship, age, residency and date of registration).
3)A challenged voter is permitted to vote a specially prepared “challenged ballot” if the answers given under oath prove that he or she is qualified to vote in the precinct. A challenged voter may not vote if he or she refuses to take the oath, refuses to answer appropriate questions under oath or is found to be not qualified to vote through the answers given under oath.
4)A complete record of the challenge must be entered on the “CHALLENGED VOTERS” page in the Poll Book. The record must include the name of the person making the challenge; the time of the challenge; the name, address and telephone number of the person challenged; and any other pertinent information.
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/Challenger_QA_177165_7.pdf
If any part of it makes sense, we shouldn't share a video that inaccurately attempts to discredit those parts.