As we move into the phase where the claims of voter fraud will finally be examined, I really fear what will happen in this country if there is abundant fraud. If we look at the current state of politics and at history, it has never been a good time in this country when it is neighbor against neighbor and family vs family like it is now with the hyper politicized America. Our real problem lies with the way the media has been presenting these political fights as 100% morally right (Dems) vs 100% morally wrong (Reps). For those who remember politics prior to Obama it was not always this way, and you used to be able to disagree with an opponents philosophy or ideas without automatically assuming they were a terrible person. Our media has now reinforced the left with at least 8 years of propaganda saying they are leading the charge against morally evil people hell bent on destroying the rights of women, minorities, the press, etc. Clearly many have taken it to heart as demonstrated by the celebrations after the race was 'called' for Biden. These people feel they have won a war against a tremendous evil.
How do you penetrate a mindset like that with something as mundane as voter fraud? Do you think it will matter to the true believers who have been programmed for 4 years that Donald Trump is a total liar who can manipulate any result? Yes, of course that is projection by our media onto Trump, but showing some votes change or a concerted effort to disqualify Trump ballots will be brushed off as those people fighting the good fight against the evil Trump and his supporters. When it is no longer a battle of ideas but a battle between good and evil, anything goes.
The other major points in American history when politics was framed as good vs evil, were the Revolutionary War, Civil War, Cold War, and Civil Rights movement. All of these resulted in extended internal strife which we have already seen, and most of them resulted in varying degrees of violence up to obviously the Civil War being the most extreme. Now I don't know exactly what will convince enough on the other side, if voter fraud did occur, but I truly hope and pray the evidence is overwhelming and convincing enough to overcome the years of programming these people have undergone from our media. Most of them believe themselves to be the good guys, and it is always hard to break someone out of that mindset. I urge everyone to be patient with those persuadable Dems in your orbit, but to also prepare for major happenings.
God Bless Donald J Trump, God Bless the successful Operation Warp Speed, and God Bless America!
As we move into the phase where the claims of voter fraud will finally be examined, I really fear what will happen in this country if there is abundant fraud. If we look at the current state of politics and at history, it has never been a good time in this country when it is neighbor against neighbor and family vs family like it is now with the hyper politicized America. Our real problem lies with the way the media has been presenting these political fights as 100% morally right (Dems) vs 100% morally wrong (Reps). For those who remember politics prior to Obama it was not always this way, and you used to be able to disagree with an opponents philosophy or ideas without automatically assuming they were a terrible person. Our media has now reinforced the left with at least 8 years of propaganda saying they are leading the charge against morally evil people hell bent on destroying the rights of women, minorities, the press, etc. Clearly many have taken it to heart as demonstrated by the celebrations after the race was 'called' for Biden. These people feel they have won a war against a tremendous evil.
How do you penetrate a mindset like that with something as mundane as voter fraud? Do you think it will matter to the true believers who have been programmed for 4 years that Donald Trump is a total liar who can manipulate any result? Yes, of course that is projection by our media onto Trump, but showing some votes change or a concerted effort to disqualify Trump ballots will be brushed off as those people fighting the good fight against the evil Trump and his supporters. When it is no longer a battle of ideas but a battle between good and evil, anything goes.
The other major points in American history when politics was framed as good vs evil, were the Revolutionary War, Civil War, Cold War, and Civil Rights movement. All of these resulted in extended internal strife which we have already seen, and most of them resulted in varying degrees of violence up to obviously the Civil War being the most extreme. Now I don't know exactly what will convince enough on the other side, if voter fraud did occur, but I truly hope and pray the evidence is overwhelming and convincing enough to overcome the years of programming these people have undergone from our media. Most of them believe themselves to be the good guys, and it is always hard to break someone out of that mindset. I urge everyone to be patient with those persuadable Dems in your orbit, but to also prepare for major happenings.
God Bless Donald J Trump, God Bless the successful Operation Warp Speed, and God Bless America!
This is much wider than voter fraud. Trump is going to reveal the corruption at the deepest and widest levels of the gov't. He has the dirt, this was a sting operation that was designed to take down the MSM, Dems, Commies, RINOs, traitors and globalists in one fell swoop. To answer your question, NPCs won't take the red-pill voluntarily so he is going to red-pill them with suppositories.
As an old, I 100% disagree with this:
Our real problem lies with the way the media has been presenting these political fights as 100% morally right (Dems) vs 100% morally wrong (Reps). For those who remember politics prior to Obama it was not always this way, and you used to be able to disagree with an opponents philosophy or ideas without automatically assuming they were a terrible person.
It may have gotten WORSE under Obama, but I can recall the way the left (political and entertainment and academia) treated Reagan and his supporters. They loathed us about as much as they loathe Trump and his supporters ; if they had had social media then, we'd see the same sort of violence and threats as we see today.
I don't know about that. Definitely the media hated him, but I don't think the general population of the left had the overwhelming hate they have for Trump. As the Reagan years passed by they kind of made a boogey man out of him, but at the time of his admin I don't think the level of vitriol was comparable. Then again, I do not quite qualify as an 'old' yet, so may just be how I remember things in school.
"Something as mundane as voter fraud?" Are you serious? Wars have started over less.
I hate to break it to you, but telling zealots that ballots came in late or did not have their signatures checked, will not be anywhere near enough to sway them. Yes it is by definition mundane, that is not to say it is not important. We are in for a long tough haul regardless of how this works out.
We aren't interested in talking to zealots. We are interested in talking to the Supreme Court. And absolutely a decision could be made that swings NV, PA, AZ, MI and WI back red like they should be. They overplayed their hand. This is an unprecedented scale of fraud. Systemic and organized fraud. They are exposed now.