If you were old enough to remember the 2000 election, how similar is this compared to 2020? A lot of people are drawing comparisons between these two elections. I'm a Zoomer so I wasn't old enough to experience it. It is to my understanding that the msm incorrectly announced Gore to be the winner. Of course the circumstances are much different in 2020 but was the media talking about Gore's transition team like they are with Biden? Were they talking about who Gore's cabinet appointees were going to be? Were they talking about stupid shit like his dogs being the newest pets to the White House? Or was Gore preoccupied with court the whole time? Was everyone calling him "President-Elect?" Ultimately, I believe that Trump will prevail but I am just curious if the msm was playing the same games back then too. I tried to research this before posting but I can't find any answers.
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If you were old enough to remember the 2000 election, how similar is this compared to 2020? A lot of people are drawing comparisons between these two elections. I'm a Zoomer so I wasn't old enough to experience it. It is to my understanding that the msm incorrectly announced Gore to be the winner. Of course the circumstances are much different in 2020 but was the media talking about Gore's transition team like they are with Biden? Were they talking about who Gore's cabinet appointees were going to be? Were they talking about stupid shit like his dogs being the newest pets to the White House? Or was Gore preoccupied with court the whole time? Was everyone calling him "President-Elect?" Ultimately, I believe that Trump will prevail but I am just curious if the msm was playing the same games back then too. I tried to research this before posting but I can't find any answers.
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Yes! I voted for Al Gore! I remember being very upset that GW won and at the time cursed the electoral college. I’ve learned since then. But things were different. People were not as insane and emotional. Even though Gore lost in the Supreme Court, I went about my business. I hated GW and still think he was an awful president. But yes, I remember 2000.
Yeah I agree. Bush is a loser. I don't like Gore much either though. Do you remember them talking about a his transition team like they are with Biden? Or was Gore too held up in court to think about that?
No. I don’t remember that. However, I wasn’t a political junkie like I am now. I admit I was a fairly low information voter back then.
You gotta start somewhere right? Thanks for sharing.
It was big news and held the country captive. But this is SO much bigger. I wonder what autistic pedes would have dug up had the internet been as big as it is now back then.
Main difference? Both were CIA approved. Stakes were much lower.
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The media called it for Gore but they weren't shilling half as hard as they are for Biden. They openly talked about the legal process.
Am also curious. Was too young at the time; but I have a feeling they weren't going as all out as they are now.
Nothing like this. Nothing. Not even close. On a scale of 1 to 10, that was like a 3 in terms of media going crazy. This is a 14.
It seems like that the media was more about the process of creating a circus around ballots in Palm Beach County. Hanging chads, butterfly ballots, etc. and everything else. It was more making jokes about the entire process than anything else. That's about all I remember about it.
I was 19 at the time and first time I voted in an election.
Was almost 30 and an investment advisor so I paid careful attention. This does not compare in the slightest. The bitching and moaning from the left was frenetic and the media was orgasmic like they hadn't been since OJ - total drama queens about the entire thing...
However, the breadth and depth of fraud in 2020 is like an entire solar system in size to what was implied in Florida in 2000. Truly, there is nothing to compare in the same zip code to 2020. I mean in 2000, the Nasdaq had just begun to plummet but the magnitude of the market, economy, MSM shilling and pandemic clown world of 2020 just puts it so far in the dust you can't even see it with binoculars... imo.
Interesting. Do you think that Gore would have been better for the the markets compared to Bush? Cause Bush screwed up with the economy also in '07.
Good question. Perhaps the single biggest thing Bush did to not prevent financial bubble was appoint Chris Cox as SEC Chairman. Cox allowed banks and brokerages to exceed the leverage limits because - like the reasoning behind repealing Glass-Stegal (the single biggest cause of the crisis) - they thought they were now "sophisticated enough" with computer algorithms, complex financial instruments / hedges and blah blah blah that it would be "fiiiiiiine".
All that - along with credit default swaps and Feddie Mac going full retard - was a perfect storm. Would have a different SEC guy avoided the worst of it? Maybe. However, the forces that crested in 2008-09 started their buildup in the 90's under Clinton and Barney Frank. I am and have always been partisan, but I think I can objectively say that the Financial Crisis was a joint effort with plenty of blame to go around. It was a true cautionary tale of "it will be different this time" - as John Templeton famously said of the most dangerous words you will ever hear in investing...
Thanks for the thorough analysis. If Biden gets in and increases taxes in the middle of the recession we are just starting to recover from, he will make Bush and Clinton's economic screw ups look like child's play.
I was in high school at the time so I vaguely remember it. You have to keep in mind, that in the 90s (and 2000 by extension), people didn't pay all that much attention to politics. Yes, CNN and Fox were around but not as many people were consumed by it as they are today. There wasn't a super strong animosity between Republicans and Democrats either. Yeah tons of people made fun of Florida afterwards but it was pretty clear that Bush had the lead in Florida by 500 votes. So Democrats went to the mat disputing the results. Gore hammed it up, we heard endless crap about the electoral college and how it should be abolished...but people generally doubted Gore's chances.
I wasn’t paying attention as much as I am now; times were different. The two sides were not so divided. The media was not so painfully bias. There was a lot more of a “let’s wait and see” approach...at least it seemed that way.
Yeah "let's wait and see" is obviously not the approach msm is taking in 2020. Too bad it can't be more like that now. They should really be calling out the fraud but "lets wait and see" would be much better. The msm now lies and says that the president has made baseless claims alleging voter fraud.
Back then, the media called it but uncalled it for Gore, I believe. They were slightly more honest.
I remember that while they talked smack about Bush and how he was trying to steal the election, they did cover the legal justifications in Bush's favor. They didn't pretend Gore was president-elect the whole time like they are doing now with Pedo Joe.
Scary stuff. It's only gotten worse!