It's good the way it is, we should be pushing for in person voting and voter ID if anything. I would like someone smarter than me to tell me the drawbacks of nationalizing the election rules and procedures to prevent liberal governors and legislatures from creating favorable rules to game.
Silly thing is we just passed (within the last two or three years anyway) the deadline for states to meet requirements for their driver's licenses and ID's in order to assist with air travel. Every state had to rework their ID's to ensure safe air travel. Seems like an easy way to upload and check against a national voter database.
Open source the software first of all. Then when someone votes a checksum of the voting program is printed on their document or digital vote. If the program changes at all the check sum will change also. All you have to do is through out the bad checksum votes.
The system should take into consideration both population density and number of counties. Perhaps counties themselves have EC votes based on the population on a log scale.
I feel we run into a problem when we start trying to tally 100s of thousands and millions of votes for one race. That process needs to be boiled down when it comes to the larger precincts.
And if our system worked the way it was supposed to, there would be no possibility of cheating - take for instance Pennsylvania. 20 electors would meet at their capital, everyone would know who they were, and we would know that's how many votes would be cast, one way or the other. Not these reams of dead voters, non-citizens, and fake ballots.
There is no system which is immune to cheating. When you write the rules, you are choosing how people will cheat. Only an engaged and caring electorate can stop cheating, which we are in the process of doing now.
What you're missing is that this is not a federal election. The elections which occurred on Nov 3rd aren't part of the Electoral College. This was 50 (+1 for DC) state elections each run according to the state constitution and laws of that state. Part of those elections was a state wide opinion poll for the purpose of informing the state legislators whom to vote in as electors.
Not all states had a problem. You'll note similarities in the governance of the areas which did.
The problems don't exist solely because the system is flawed, but because flawed people are running the system. We could have our elections with notebooks and crayons if honest people were running it, but no system will withstand being run and managed by dishonest people.
Part of the problem with this country is that, because most of our elected officials are legislators, we tend to approach government from a legislative perspective, but the problem is not lack of laws. The problem is lack of enforcement of laws we already have. Since elections are crafted and run by the legislative branch, the solution to this issue must be found in the other two branches. That's what checks and balances are for.
When the fox is running the hen house, installing new brooders won't fix the problem. You have to get rid of the fox.
States would create 1000s of counties to have a super majority of EC
wow good point i never thought of that. thanks for the feedback.
It's good the way it is, we should be pushing for in person voting and voter ID if anything. I would like someone smarter than me to tell me the drawbacks of nationalizing the election rules and procedures to prevent liberal governors and legislatures from creating favorable rules to game.
Silly thing is we just passed (within the last two or three years anyway) the deadline for states to meet requirements for their driver's licenses and ID's in order to assist with air travel. Every state had to rework their ID's to ensure safe air travel. Seems like an easy way to upload and check against a national voter database.
Well we have voter ID in Georgia, yet the cheat went forward. Something else happened here.
My thoughts:
Open source the software first of all. Then when someone votes a checksum of the voting program is printed on their document or digital vote. If the program changes at all the check sum will change also. All you have to do is through out the bad checksum votes.
That will be a race to the bottom as states just divide and create more counties
The system should take into consideration both population density and number of counties. Perhaps counties themselves have EC votes based on the population on a log scale.
Nothing would stop states from redistricting and adding counties. Better watch out, here comes Cali with a newly drawn map of 1000+ counties.
Sounds interesting but more than half of this country is retarded, big number would scare them so much they'd never agree to the change.
I don't see anything wrong with the system we have.
Really? Nothing wrong? kekekek
I feel we run into a problem when we start trying to tally 100s of thousands and millions of votes for one race. That process needs to be boiled down when it comes to the larger precincts.
And if our system worked the way it was supposed to, there would be no possibility of cheating - take for instance Pennsylvania. 20 electors would meet at their capital, everyone would know who they were, and we would know that's how many votes would be cast, one way or the other. Not these reams of dead voters, non-citizens, and fake ballots.
There is no system which is immune to cheating. When you write the rules, you are choosing how people will cheat. Only an engaged and caring electorate can stop cheating, which we are in the process of doing now.
What you're missing is that this is not a federal election. The elections which occurred on Nov 3rd aren't part of the Electoral College. This was 50 (+1 for DC) state elections each run according to the state constitution and laws of that state. Part of those elections was a state wide opinion poll for the purpose of informing the state legislators whom to vote in as electors.
Not all states had a problem. You'll note similarities in the governance of the areas which did.
The problems don't exist solely because the system is flawed, but because flawed people are running the system. We could have our elections with notebooks and crayons if honest people were running it, but no system will withstand being run and managed by dishonest people.
Part of the problem with this country is that, because most of our elected officials are legislators, we tend to approach government from a legislative perspective, but the problem is not lack of laws. The problem is lack of enforcement of laws we already have. Since elections are crafted and run by the legislative branch, the solution to this issue must be found in the other two branches. That's what checks and balances are for.
When the fox is running the hen house, installing new brooders won't fix the problem. You have to get rid of the fox.
What determines county size? Is each city block in LA going to be a County? They'd do it, you know they would.
and you thought gerrymandering is bad now? kek!
Nah. We just need to figure away to make it harder to steal our elections. It does suck California is what 18-20% of the electoral votes needed?
Yeah - TRANSPARECY! We make cops wear body cams; why not poll workers?