posted ago by Tech_guru
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Someone wrote code to fudge the numbers and it wasn’t by accident, you don’t see this type of error on things like this
Someone wrote code to fudge the numbers and it wasn’t by accident, you don’t see this type of error on things like this
A fucking 8th grader can write a program to tally votes. It's like Computer Science 101. So this was definitely on purpose.
Yes but no. Large volumes of concurrent read/write operations can be present some unique issues not found in software written for your home computer.
The big issue is that this kind of """glitch""" screams corruption as no one would ever write a program to subtract votes and voting machines aren't predictive algorithms.
Bev Harris has been talking about this for over a decade. One of the biggest red flags in the whole thing is that they use floating point number variable for votes. It should be a non decimal variable.
https://blackboxvoting.org/
People weren't ready for it a decade ago. She's been on Alex Jones show numerous times.
I hope so.
FBI has already proven they are corrupt.
You don't need to be an engineer or mathematician. Just the fact that the "glitches" unanimously favored Biden is enough to know something is wrong.
Sooo "Glitch" = "feature" now, got it.
It was a feature from the start.
My personal theory is that Jack Dorsey and the other tech giants decided they could steal a country, and that's exactly what they planned to do.
Think about all the oddly concerted efforts to constrain trump's message.
Now then, imagine how complicated it would be to rig an election across multiple states on the fly, and make it seem on the surface as a plausible win. Then to cover their tracks.
However, they truly underestimated how much trump was going to win by, and the bullet was already screaming down the barrel. The battle ground states weren't, they were complete trump land slides.
Oh but trump was way down in the polls, the fact he lost by a percent is way over performance! Gah guys, see democracy works. Accept it and move on.
Except we didn't. We haven't, and every bit of their media gas lighting has gone for naught.
Now they better be held accountable for their Crimes Against the State.
May have been that late night internet update they talked about.
Yeah, this is how it went down.
Yea, ok
Even if you assume perfectly good faith, the fact that they needed to release an emergency update the day of elections is egregious incompetence.
Their human error was not anticipating the Red Tsunami.
Can you imagine any amateur coder using a floating point decimal to store vote tallies? That shit is the biggest red flag off the bat.
There is no reason to use float for counting votes. You only need to do addition or in rare case subtraction.
Unless, there's a weighting operation where you multiply with fraction. Hmmmm... Even then you can easily recast the result back to integer. These people are really dumb.
Raw amounts should always be in integers, and unsigned if your language supports it.
Yet I see programs all the time where they just use a float or double for these sorts of things. Programming is not being taught correctly in many places.
Here's an example of a major program with this error, libcurl: https://curl.se/libcurl/c/CURLINFO_SIZE_DOWNLOAD.html
"Pass a pointer to a double to receive the total amount of bytes that were downloaded."
Since it's an amount, double is definitely wrong.
It continues: "CURLINFO_SIZE_DOWNLOAD_T is a newer replacement that returns a more sensible variable type."
That function is described here: https://curl.se/libcurl/c/CURLINFO_SIZE_DOWNLOAD_T.html
"Pass a pointer to a curl_off_t to receive the total amount of bytes that were downloaded."
A curl_off_t is an unsigned integer. Which is a more sensible variable type.
Voting machine source code should be 100% open and auditable and ensured it's not written by amateur programmers who cannot even get basic data types right.
However, over here it's not a bug, it's a feature. These voting machines allow for tabulating "weighted votes" in which case the result is using a floating point decimal.
See this video explaining that this feature is included in voting machines and some of the algorithms backing it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk
Thank you. Computers only do what they are told.
True except for HAL
lol... and MY computer for that matter.
Actually, that's not a rule in software engineering, that's Mother Nature's rule. How many Liberals does it take to defeat Mother Nature. None have lived to tell...
We used to say "garbage in, garbage out" back in the day.
You sound like those Nazis in Requirements.
It's the same in manufacturing. I've tried explaining this to the production side but even some maintenance guys SWEAR there are magical fairies in the logic that make things happen.
I've spent hours investigating how some magical incident happens and it turns out, it's either someone overlooked needing an interlock for a rarely occurring situation or an individual flagged a sensor confusing the system.
Unless its skynet than the glitch is feature on the new patch
I write programs that tally numbers and then have a "bug" that distributes the counts logarithmically. That happens ALL the time.
Hahahahahahahaah
I am glad someone else brought this up.
Suppose we live in a universe where a vote counting machine is running software that, throughout the country, accidentally through some flaw in the code keeps initially giving Donald J. Trump some thousands of the votes (odd also that it is in these weird, non-specific packets of votes instead of individually) that Joe R. Biden earned only to inexplicably hours later switch those votes back for some reason to their proper place.
Even if, to the eventual tally, these numbers are correct (which is of course fucking ridiculous) why would ANYONE EVER USE THAT SYSTEM EVER AGAIN, LET ALONE SPREAD IT TO ALMOST EVERY COUNTY IN 60-75% OF THE STATES IN THE COUNTRY?
The only answer is that the eventual tally is not the correct tally, and the system was designed to slowly, and perhaps randomly, shift some of Trump's votes over to Biden in a subtle way in order to close a gap that is small enough not to be detected.
The real gold in this conclusion is that, for the most part, that means if the system relies on scanning paper ballots, then the original ballots should contain the original configuration of the votes. It makes sense to do this in places where you know the margin will be big enough that recounts, audits, or recanvasses wont be needed like VA, RI, NY, or IL because those aren't considered swing states.
Even so, the anecdotal evidence this time seems to indicate that the strategy was modified at some later point when someone realized that the vast majority of Trump voters were going to vote on election day, bringing about uncertainty in the numbers. They likely adjusted as best as they could, positioning themselves with outside contractors and supplemental, cruder methodologies to fix the final vote tallies depending on the state.
The election day numbers were larger than anything that they expected, so much so that most of those back-up methods were automatically activated such as the sharpie-gate tactic or the poll watcher intimidation and ballot harvesting. The plan was modified to have a triggerpoint, and that was the Fox News premature call for AZ which broke the red wave of momentum that was clear everywhere before that.
The haphazard call to stop was clumsy, as apparent by the ridiculous excuses by the respective state officials in WI and GA like 'we are tired' or 'there is a broken water pipe down the street'. They needed the time necessary to be free of watchful eyes to make the 4 AM drops, and they also needed to manufacture the difference associated with the replacement ballots that match the results in the subsequent 'glitches' which took each state over the top; after all, their crimes needed a false paper trail and they knew that most of the swing states were going to be close because they didn't want to plum too deep into the well of the 100s of thousands of dead and inactive voters that they needed. This explains the insane turnout numbers everywhere.
In MI, GA, NC, AK, and AZ they also wanted to get the totals up enough to flip the Senate with one or more of these races, as such the slow counting method allowed for fine tuning without the 'glitches', which is crucial because by then they probably noticed that the rest of the world has started seeing these software bugs as something more.
They are failing so misurably now because they have been caught somewhere, though I don't know where. They know that their shallow confederation of conspirators is fractured figuratively and geographically. A couple of captured members in custody, right now are probably being faced with the prisoner's dilemma of who will turn on the other first (which can work even if you only have one captive, if you convince them that you are holding one of their associates which could even be an asset.) The question is who has captured this person or these persons, and whose side are they on.
A confederation that survives on covert activity cannot rely on conventional forms of communication in order to conduct business, which means that with unconventional forms you sacrifice convenience. Inconvenient forms of communication aren't easy to rely on so the reasons surrounding suspected captive members will be hard to come by, and thus they might assume that it is a proper authority that captured that individual.
With this assumption in mind, why do I personally think they are failing: The answer is simple, Biden's AZ and GA leads are shrinking and NC has been called for Trump. These aren't coordinated moves, these are independent vectors moving on their own pretending like they were doing the job that they were originally tasked with as election officials. They are assuming the worst in their minds and at least some don't feel that the cause is worth it anymore.
MI, WI, AZ, NV, PA, GA, NC, VA, IL, and RI will all likely have some sort of external auditing process before the various Secretaries of State submit their final certifications, and for most of these states auditing was never well prepared for by the confederates because turnout was never supposed to be this high for Trump, whereas a low Trump turnout Biden landslide wouldn't be challenged and a modest Trump turnout modest Biden victory would have been relatively undetectable in the swing states.
Their sloppiness in MI, WI, PA, GA, NV, and AZ has raised enough red flags that the Supreme Court is going to have to intervene at some point beyond Justice Alito's order to segregate the ballots in PA that arrived after election day. These states have Democrat operated cities that are still refusing meaningful access to their facilities because these places are crime scenes and they haven't finished the crime or cleaned up the evidence. Partisan access gives reliable witnesses to either or both.
You don't need a genius to look at a map and uncover which areas are seeing the anomalous numbers.
Hmmm. I wonder if the name program comes from the act of what creates them? Programming? Or perhaps it originates from who does the work? Programmers?
Either way, yeah, programs are programmed by programmers to do their program by following the code written.
This is what I've been telling all my friends. If you don't know how to write code, apparently you don't know that a "glitch" isn't just that the computer spazzes and does whatever TF it wants for a blip, then goes back to normal.
Tell me about it. I was an aeronautical engineering student and had to pound programs in FORTRAN on mainframes. OMFG, the long nights.
I always tell my computing students: "You tell the computer what to do, not vice-versa."
Glitch is the term from computer games.
NPC and monsters in games have programmed behaviour. Glitch is whe they do not adhere , do something strange --> like they walk through the wall because there is bug somwhere in the assesmet "Is it wall here? Can I go?"
This does not happen in any COUNTING software. Because no couting alghorithms have BEHAVIOUR.
They just "I see mark here, I add number there". That is it.
As a programmer, I find it so frustrating when I make a minor typo in the code for my Mario game and it suddenly fabricates millions of fraudulent votes in favour of Joe Biden.
You'd think in critical vote counting software, the COUNTING part would kind of work???
Write code to redistribute the votes and the code will do that.
They were caught because of fraudulent ballots.
Confirmed.