People who think this is an option must be denying what they are seeing and hearing have you seen the people biden is surrounded with there will be no democracy no constitution no usa they care about nothing and no one if you haven't seen that by now start researching look stuff up dig dig dig many peoples lives depend on it and I'd like my child to grow up in a better America than I did not one that doesn't exist anymore
caveat - i think Trump needs to fight for this current election tooth and nail and so does every other Republican.
But as a counter point to you and OP:
A lot of this fraud bullshit we are seeing, was allowed by lax legislature. Infirm laws that have not accounted for possible scales of subversions + the use of software.
So I just want all the MAGA partiots here to know that IF, if we lose this battle we do still retain hope to win the war.
Reason being - Republicans control legislature in all of these states we are seeing flipping.
You don't even need to prove there was fraud at this point. You just campaign on the fact that there was a long period of uncertainty and you use that argument to buff protection of elections, remove 'glitchy' software from the picture, etc...
We have federal Senate now and we have a significant shift in the House. There is a strong possibility of just cutting Biden / Harris off from accomplishing anything much, while each states goes to the mats and utterly revamps their election process to prevent such future steals.
So again:
Tl,DR I admit that if lose here, our chances of victory long term goes down significantly. Very down. But all I am saying is.. it won't be down to 0 percent.
If they can steal a national election, they'll steal the Senate no problem. They'll take the House. They'll pack the supreme court. They'll pass amnesty for something like 30 mil illegals. They'll make DC and Puerto Rico a state. Oh and say bye bye to any conservative media online or otherwise. Meaning defacto one party rule.
This is a coup. A Bolshevik overthrow. You don't vote your way out of those after the fact.
But don't fret. Trump is fighting this and he's obviously not gonna let it fly, just stand with him and pray for him.
Which means even if Biden gets through, MAGA has 2 years for States to make their election impossible to steal by these means in the future. If MAGA fails to use those 2 years to squeeze in every possible protection into legislature and process, than yes, they will definitely use their cheating again to steal rest of the country.
I agree that it's a coup, but its one that stalled really bad in its opening moves and that gives us 2 years of space to try to win back, if this battle doesn't go our way.
I just don't want the people here to give up and put their hands down if we get the same results as happened in 2000 and 2010 - where fraud was proven in court and it was proven that it swung the election, but the cheater was allowed to keep the spoils because it was just more convenient for the bureaucracy (and the swamp)
I'm not a doomer fag but how much MAGA is in place in state legislatures? I would imagine its a bunch of frumpy dorks who laughed at at least one or two things Lincoln Project put out. Old Neocon republicans with fat asses and pleated pants. I guess what I'm trying to say is we need to start running TD heros for office.
See the only problem with you assessment is that most Republicans politicians are cowards, and are scared of the media. Any type of election reform that the Republicans try to pass, will be labeled as "Racist" by the media. And the Republicans will fold. How do I know. Just look at the past 30 years.
I see it clear as day and thats why its so important to destroy this shit now. We will never have a anti establishment canidate if we lay down here.. This is the hill to die on!!!!
Point 2 to my other comment here - we may be in a situation where we get court rulings in our favor, but we get them too late to affect outcome. That's how it went down in 2000 and 2010.
Those court rulings would still be actionable to push for complete revamp of election procedures.
It won't matter who they run in 2024. They won't win no matter how many votes they get. It could be a landslide and they'll just continue counting until whoever that candidate is, loses.
You know the democrats are like “so what if we cheated, as long as orange man gone”. So im like “you cheated, so i dont even care what the result is, orange man stays”.
The next question is, do they want to fight about it.
It's gotten so brazen here in California that the candidates don't even campaign anymore, nor do they live in the area they represent. They just magically win with 120% votes cast.
We seriously need a state civil war and arrest Hairgel Hitler and his Auntie
There is nothing beyond 2020 if Trump loses. All the little things that click together to run small aspects of your life will consolidate into a massive thing that will control you for the rest of your days. If you are lucky, you will never notice what you have lost as you toil fruitlessly to the grave. but i doubt any of us here will ever be so lucky.
Who says he can't be president in 2024? There's enough of us to go full 1776 and leave him in charge as long as we want. This isn't even work for him. This is easy relaxation for him. He gets younger every day being POTUS
If Trump doesn't win this election, there is no other election, not for him or any other republican. It will just be socialists & communists stealing elections and the media running cover for them every 4 years, from here on out.
We are long overdue in saying "Enough". Every Republican at the local, state, and national level who is not raising holy hell and doing everything they can to stand against this fraud is complicit. Every "conservative" pundit who is talking about anything other than this blatant assault on our Republic is a CUCK.
We need more then just for Trump to win this election. Election integrity needs to be a priority and aim to get voter ID, end mail in ballots, and chain of custody on all paper ballots
Most loyal base in history... but there were 100 Biden only ballots for every Trump only one.
By the vote totals, people must have been absolutely rabid to support Biden... even when they supported no one else. Keep in mind the entire MSM couldn't find a SINGLE voter that had turned away from Trump and changed their mind from 2016. MSM tried about 7 times, and NOT ONE was a Trump voter. WE HAVE THEIR VOTING RECORDS TO PROVE IT.
I dunno. If this cheating is allowed to happen I think I'll dedicate some of my wealth next cycle politicking people to avoid voting because it just won't matter. And by that, I mean it won't matter for EITHER side. Our candidate won't have a shot and theirs will just get elected without them since they'll simply manufacture enough votes to win anyway. No participation necessary for any American. Right now, voter participation is looking like a total sham. We'll see.
You really don't want this kind of system, trust me.
People who think this is an option must be denying what they are seeing and hearing have you seen the people biden is surrounded with there will be no democracy no constitution no usa they care about nothing and no one if you haven't seen that by now start researching look stuff up dig dig dig many peoples lives depend on it and I'd like my child to grow up in a better America than I did not one that doesn't exist anymore
caveat - i think Trump needs to fight for this current election tooth and nail and so does every other Republican.
But as a counter point to you and OP:
A lot of this fraud bullshit we are seeing, was allowed by lax legislature. Infirm laws that have not accounted for possible scales of subversions + the use of software.
So I just want all the MAGA partiots here to know that IF, if we lose this battle we do still retain hope to win the war.
Reason being - Republicans control legislature in all of these states we are seeing flipping.
You don't even need to prove there was fraud at this point. You just campaign on the fact that there was a long period of uncertainty and you use that argument to buff protection of elections, remove 'glitchy' software from the picture, etc...
We have federal Senate now and we have a significant shift in the House. There is a strong possibility of just cutting Biden / Harris off from accomplishing anything much, while each states goes to the mats and utterly revamps their election process to prevent such future steals.
So again:
Tl,DR I admit that if lose here, our chances of victory long term goes down significantly. Very down. But all I am saying is.. it won't be down to 0 percent.
If they can steal a national election, they'll steal the Senate no problem. They'll take the House. They'll pack the supreme court. They'll pass amnesty for something like 30 mil illegals. They'll make DC and Puerto Rico a state. Oh and say bye bye to any conservative media online or otherwise. Meaning defacto one party rule.
This is a coup. A Bolshevik overthrow. You don't vote your way out of those after the fact.
But don't fret. Trump is fighting this and he's obviously not gonna let it fly, just stand with him and pray for him.
but they don't have the Senate right now.
Which means even if Biden gets through, MAGA has 2 years for States to make their election impossible to steal by these means in the future. If MAGA fails to use those 2 years to squeeze in every possible protection into legislature and process, than yes, they will definitely use their cheating again to steal rest of the country.
I agree that it's a coup, but its one that stalled really bad in its opening moves and that gives us 2 years of space to try to win back, if this battle doesn't go our way.
I just don't want the people here to give up and put their hands down if we get the same results as happened in 2000 and 2010 - where fraud was proven in court and it was proven that it swung the election, but the cheater was allowed to keep the spoils because it was just more convenient for the bureaucracy (and the swamp)
I'm not a doomer fag but how much MAGA is in place in state legislatures? I would imagine its a bunch of frumpy dorks who laughed at at least one or two things Lincoln Project put out. Old Neocon republicans with fat asses and pleated pants. I guess what I'm trying to say is we need to start running TD heros for office.
Enough for Georgia to start an audit. But I get what you are saying. Rep. majority doesn't count for much if they are swamp.
Thats a very naive thought considering the actual reality of what took place, and what will take place under their administration
See the only problem with you assessment is that most Republicans politicians are cowards, and are scared of the media. Any type of election reform that the Republicans try to pass, will be labeled as "Racist" by the media. And the Republicans will fold. How do I know. Just look at the past 30 years.
I see it clear as day and thats why its so important to destroy this shit now. We will never have a anti establishment canidate if we lay down here.. This is the hill to die on!!!!
Point 2 to my other comment here - we may be in a situation where we get court rulings in our favor, but we get them too late to affect outcome. That's how it went down in 2000 and 2010.
Those court rulings would still be actionable to push for complete revamp of election procedures.
Yeah, this is the other point. They're already making lists of Trump supporters
Trump and the whole family will be jailed by 2022 on made up charges
Many Trump administration members will be jailed
Many ordinary supporters will be jailed or cancelled from their jobs
Republicans will run a Romney type candidate in 2024
It won't matter who they run in 2024. They won't win no matter how many votes they get. It could be a landslide and they'll just continue counting until whoever that candidate is, loses.
You know the democrats are like “so what if we cheated, as long as orange man gone”. So im like “you cheated, so i dont even care what the result is, orange man stays”.
The next question is, do they want to fight about it.
ding ding ding...we have a winner. It is a trick to get you to concede. Ah shucks, we'll get 'em next time.
It's gotten so brazen here in California that the candidates don't even campaign anymore, nor do they live in the area they represent. They just magically win with 120% votes cast.
We seriously need a state civil war and arrest Hairgel Hitler and his Auntie
The only way Trump's on the ballot in 2024 is if he's going for his third term.
There is nothing beyond 2020 if Trump loses. All the little things that click together to run small aspects of your life will consolidate into a massive thing that will control you for the rest of your days. If you are lucky, you will never notice what you have lost as you toil fruitlessly to the grave. but i doubt any of us here will ever be so lucky.
Who says he can't be president in 2024? There's enough of us to go full 1776 and leave him in charge as long as we want. This isn't even work for him. This is easy relaxation for him. He gets younger every day being POTUS
He should run in 2024 anyway. To make up for the 4 years they wasted making him fight their nonsense.
If we don't seize 2020 to start repairing our elections, then the country has already seen its final election.
1776 level problem. If we don't stop it here and now, we will end up single party with 100% of the vote going to comrade Harris
If Trump doesn't win this election, there is no other election, not for him or any other republican. It will just be socialists & communists stealing elections and the media running cover for them every 4 years, from here on out.
This election is the end game. We either win here or never again.
If they are allowed to steal this vote I won't give a DAMN about elections or being civil for the rest of my life
Donald Trump JR
We are long overdue in saying "Enough". Every Republican at the local, state, and national level who is not raising holy hell and doing everything they can to stand against this fraud is complicit. Every "conservative" pundit who is talking about anything other than this blatant assault on our Republic is a CUCK.
Yes! I don't understand why the normies can't see this.
Lol exactly
We need more then just for Trump to win this election. Election integrity needs to be a priority and aim to get voter ID, end mail in ballots, and chain of custody on all paper ballots
Most loyal base in history... but there were 100 Biden only ballots for every Trump only one.
By the vote totals, people must have been absolutely rabid to support Biden... even when they supported no one else. Keep in mind the entire MSM couldn't find a SINGLE voter that had turned away from Trump and changed their mind from 2016. MSM tried about 7 times, and NOT ONE was a Trump voter. WE HAVE THEIR VOTING RECORDS TO PROVE IT.
I dunno. If this cheating is allowed to happen I think I'll dedicate some of my wealth next cycle politicking people to avoid voting because it just won't matter. And by that, I mean it won't matter for EITHER side. Our candidate won't have a shot and theirs will just get elected without them since they'll simply manufacture enough votes to win anyway. No participation necessary for any American. Right now, voter participation is looking like a total sham. We'll see.
You really don't want this kind of system, trust me.
Precisely. This is a fight for our republic and our freedoms.
From WaPo. Trying to ease people into acceptance of a fraudulant election with 'come back next time' approach.
Trump and his family and all who helped him will be suicided long before that. Thats why we fight!!
I'm seriously OK with a third term of GEOTUS