caveat - i think Trump needs to fight for this current election tooth and nail and so does every other Republican.
But as a counter point to you and OP:
A lot of this fraud bullshit we are seeing, was allowed by lax legislature. Infirm laws that have not accounted for possible scales of subversions + the use of software.
So I just want all the MAGA partiots here to know that IF, if we lose this battle we do still retain hope to win the war.
Reason being - Republicans control legislature in all of these states we are seeing flipping.
You don't even need to prove there was fraud at this point. You just campaign on the fact that there was a long period of uncertainty and you use that argument to buff protection of elections, remove 'glitchy' software from the picture, etc...
We have federal Senate now and we have a significant shift in the House. There is a strong possibility of just cutting Biden / Harris off from accomplishing anything much, while each states goes to the mats and utterly revamps their election process to prevent such future steals.
So again:
Tl,DR I admit that if lose here, our chances of victory long term goes down significantly. Very down. But all I am saying is.. it won't be down to 0 percent.
If they can steal a national election, they'll steal the Senate no problem. They'll take the House. They'll pack the supreme court. They'll pass amnesty for something like 30 mil illegals. They'll make DC and Puerto Rico a state. Oh and say bye bye to any conservative media online or otherwise. Meaning defacto one party rule.
This is a coup. A Bolshevik overthrow. You don't vote your way out of those after the fact.
But don't fret. Trump is fighting this and he's obviously not gonna let it fly, just stand with him and pray for him.
Which means even if Biden gets through, MAGA has 2 years for States to make their election impossible to steal by these means in the future. If MAGA fails to use those 2 years to squeeze in every possible protection into legislature and process, than yes, they will definitely use their cheating again to steal rest of the country.
I agree that it's a coup, but its one that stalled really bad in its opening moves and that gives us 2 years of space to try to win back, if this battle doesn't go our way.
I just don't want the people here to give up and put their hands down if we get the same results as happened in 2000 and 2010 - where fraud was proven in court and it was proven that it swung the election, but the cheater was allowed to keep the spoils because it was just more convenient for the bureaucracy (and the swamp)
I'm not a doomer fag but how much MAGA is in place in state legislatures? I would imagine its a bunch of frumpy dorks who laughed at at least one or two things Lincoln Project put out. Old Neocon republicans with fat asses and pleated pants. I guess what I'm trying to say is we need to start running TD heros for office.
See the only problem with you assessment is that most Republicans politicians are cowards, and are scared of the media. Any type of election reform that the Republicans try to pass, will be labeled as "Racist" by the media. And the Republicans will fold. How do I know. Just look at the past 30 years.
caveat - i think Trump needs to fight for this current election tooth and nail and so does every other Republican.
But as a counter point to you and OP:
A lot of this fraud bullshit we are seeing, was allowed by lax legislature. Infirm laws that have not accounted for possible scales of subversions + the use of software.
So I just want all the MAGA partiots here to know that IF, if we lose this battle we do still retain hope to win the war.
Reason being - Republicans control legislature in all of these states we are seeing flipping.
You don't even need to prove there was fraud at this point. You just campaign on the fact that there was a long period of uncertainty and you use that argument to buff protection of elections, remove 'glitchy' software from the picture, etc...
We have federal Senate now and we have a significant shift in the House. There is a strong possibility of just cutting Biden / Harris off from accomplishing anything much, while each states goes to the mats and utterly revamps their election process to prevent such future steals.
So again:
Tl,DR I admit that if lose here, our chances of victory long term goes down significantly. Very down. But all I am saying is.. it won't be down to 0 percent.
If they can steal a national election, they'll steal the Senate no problem. They'll take the House. They'll pack the supreme court. They'll pass amnesty for something like 30 mil illegals. They'll make DC and Puerto Rico a state. Oh and say bye bye to any conservative media online or otherwise. Meaning defacto one party rule.
This is a coup. A Bolshevik overthrow. You don't vote your way out of those after the fact.
But don't fret. Trump is fighting this and he's obviously not gonna let it fly, just stand with him and pray for him.
but they don't have the Senate right now.
Which means even if Biden gets through, MAGA has 2 years for States to make their election impossible to steal by these means in the future. If MAGA fails to use those 2 years to squeeze in every possible protection into legislature and process, than yes, they will definitely use their cheating again to steal rest of the country.
I agree that it's a coup, but its one that stalled really bad in its opening moves and that gives us 2 years of space to try to win back, if this battle doesn't go our way.
I just don't want the people here to give up and put their hands down if we get the same results as happened in 2000 and 2010 - where fraud was proven in court and it was proven that it swung the election, but the cheater was allowed to keep the spoils because it was just more convenient for the bureaucracy (and the swamp)
I'm not a doomer fag but how much MAGA is in place in state legislatures? I would imagine its a bunch of frumpy dorks who laughed at at least one or two things Lincoln Project put out. Old Neocon republicans with fat asses and pleated pants. I guess what I'm trying to say is we need to start running TD heros for office.
Enough for Georgia to start an audit. But I get what you are saying. Rep. majority doesn't count for much if they are swamp.
Thats a very naive thought considering the actual reality of what took place, and what will take place under their administration
See the only problem with you assessment is that most Republicans politicians are cowards, and are scared of the media. Any type of election reform that the Republicans try to pass, will be labeled as "Racist" by the media. And the Republicans will fold. How do I know. Just look at the past 30 years.