This highlights a big problem. Why the fuck do we have shadowy companies providing voting machines? A proper voting machine should be 100% open source, log everything in a plaint text format, produce the same output given the same input, be completely air gapped from the internet, use simple physical security (metal panels with physical lock and keys) to prevent access to any data ports, and require multiple parties present before any administrative functions are performed.
It should be secure and transparent by default. Not some black box that no one understands or can inspect. Until we have something that performs this, we are better off sticking with hard paper ballots, hand counting with observers, inking fingers.
Third world SHITHOLES have more secure elections than we do in the USA. This is an absolute disgrace.
I don't necessarily think it should be open source. I don't know a ton about software and programming.
Wouldn't making the code publicly accessible make the software easier to be attacked, if the machines are connected to the internet, because more people have seen the code?
The only way they will get the source code is if they do a surprise appearance at Dominion headquarters and start seizing computers. Anything else and the "real" source code would have already been deleted by the time they get there. Or, they will have a "clean" version of the source code and that will be what they attempt to hand over.
Not really...
If we rule out all votes arriving the day after and counted without poll watchers we win. I don't really understand why people don't get this..
Let's imagine you are taking a math exam - you kick out the instructor and/or any monitors forcibly from your exam. Everyone gets a 100 grade on the exam. Do you think the results of that exam will stand?
Forcibly removing poll watchers is unheard of. We should have had a law that every vote counted must be recorded on video. Social distancing the poll watchers was already insanely stupid. Now that wouldn't be enough to end things. But when they kicked them out - that's pretty unheard of in any functioning country with democratic elections.
Mellissa Carrone is already one such Dominion employee who oversaw the MI election: she's spoken out. Her interview is here if you want to listen to it; it was stickied for a while but things are moving so fast around here.
Without whistleblowers from Dominion, this case will be incredibly hard to pursue. So I hope this is a solid thing.
An audit of the source code and reverse engineering the compiled binaries will work without a confession.
They're saying the source code is proprietary (it probably is), and that gives them the right to hide it from legal investigation (it does not).
This highlights a big problem. Why the fuck do we have shadowy companies providing voting machines? A proper voting machine should be 100% open source, log everything in a plaint text format, produce the same output given the same input, be completely air gapped from the internet, use simple physical security (metal panels with physical lock and keys) to prevent access to any data ports, and require multiple parties present before any administrative functions are performed.
It should be secure and transparent by default. Not some black box that no one understands or can inspect. Until we have something that performs this, we are better off sticking with hard paper ballots, hand counting with observers, inking fingers.
Third world SHITHOLES have more secure elections than we do in the USA. This is an absolute disgrace.
I don't necessarily think it should be open source. I don't know a ton about software and programming.
Wouldn't making the code publicly accessible make the software easier to be attacked, if the machines are connected to the internet, because more people have seen the code?
source code and disassembly should be public i don't get these people in the government (not) making laws wtf
The only way they will get the source code is if they do a surprise appearance at Dominion headquarters and start seizing computers. Anything else and the "real" source code would have already been deleted by the time they get there. Or, they will have a "clean" version of the source code and that will be what they attempt to hand over.
well then the NSA better save the fuckin’ day or we’ll need a whole lot of rope
never count on intelligence agencies to save us from anything
Not if the CIA, NSA,DOJ, and i dare say FBI were monitoring. Hopefully they were.
Lol they were probably helping with the fraud
are you for serious? they're all bad guys. their job is to cover this shit up not help expose it. where have you been for the past 4 years?
Not really... If we rule out all votes arriving the day after and counted without poll watchers we win. I don't really understand why people don't get this..
Let's imagine you are taking a math exam - you kick out the instructor and/or any monitors forcibly from your exam. Everyone gets a 100 grade on the exam. Do you think the results of that exam will stand?
Forcibly removing poll watchers is unheard of. We should have had a law that every vote counted must be recorded on video. Social distancing the poll watchers was already insanely stupid. Now that wouldn't be enough to end things. But when they kicked them out - that's pretty unheard of in any functioning country with democratic elections.
Mellissa Carrone is already one such Dominion employee who oversaw the MI election: she's spoken out. Her interview is here if you want to listen to it; it was stickied for a while but things are moving so fast around here.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/798796260