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ThisTrainHasNoBrakes 26 points ago +27 / -1

Here's the issue with recounts: they tend to reenforce the original cheat. Not trying to be a doomer, just tempering expectations.

What happens to ballots after election day? They don't just sit around at the polling stations. They are transported to a central location. So if I update the count for your race to move 6,000 votes from Biden to Trump, you can bet your ass I am going to change the physical ballots afterwards, when no one is looking.

This is the problem with "no proof of election fraud". The whole system is designed to stop you from being able to prove fraud in many ways. I hope to be wrong here, obviously, and I do believe Trump will win in court.

The answer, of course, is to dump all ballots that are unobserved. And accept no process moving forward that isn't completely auditable.

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MexicanBeerFlu 15 points ago +15 / -0

These votes were tabulated using dominion voting software and the physical paper is secured with other votes from the same precinct. There were so many down ballot races that it they could not possibly have had the time to perform this level of fuckery. They're toast.

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Sporadica 3 points ago +3 / -0

Honestly I think it should be mandatory to fill in all races, but throw in a none of the above if you truly dont want to vote for a position.

Making it harder for people to stuff the ballot if they have a couple dozen bubbles to fill vs just the single top ticket.

Fun fact about 98% of both parties and independents vote full ballot.

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permi 1 point ago +2 / -1

How will you sift through it and throw out all ballots that were ‘found’ after Election Day? Merely recounting without throwing out illegal ballots doesn’t sound terribly promising to me.

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Magabeliever 3 points ago +3 / -0

that may be so, but from what I recall of the War Room's election night forecasting, the guy from Big Data, Richard Baris(?), said that GA was a win for Trump because there was no way for Biden to catch up to his leads at like 2AM or so. Then they stopped counting and did shenanigans like water-pipe breaking at like 4AM. Those can't be legal ballots received by "election day". Highly likely to also have invalid votes (i.e. out of state or dead voters) among that mix which would remove them from the total count. I expect the audit to be close to the 2AM numbers, which means President Trump wins GA. Won GA back on 11/3.

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victorywin 0 points ago +1 / -1

can they identify the ballots that came late? I don't think so.

we know about backdating.

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DelveDeeper 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think so, they've spent years planning this, I don't think they planned for this outcome or even thought that they would ever get caught.

If the dominion software really was fucking with the count, which I believe it was, then the people feeding the votes into the machine would most likely have had no idea. It was the perfect scenario in order to keep those in the know to as few people as possible. If now people are physically changing the results to match the counted votes then the logistics of that would be huge and the amount of people involved would now be enormous, and they would also know they're most likely being monitored.

I think they've simply gone too far and got caught.

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MAGA1775 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep, the outcome was spoiled when Trump had such a huge lead later on election night and then right before it looked inevitable for Trump to win (even the talking heads were calling it, saying it looked like 2016 all over again, Trump's betting odds went to 90%) suddenly the count stopped. They had a contingency in plan as a last resort to stop counting and then desperately fraud their way to a win over the coming days.

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victorywin 0 points ago +1 / -1

no, people know what they are doing. listen to this Dominion whistleblower in Detroit https://dlive.tv/p/redpill78+gFgkDC2Gg

the situation is fucked up beyond imagination. I don't see a way to fix this, other than repeating the election in-person.