If the counts are contested in court still come Jan 20 then under the 12th amendment the House of Reps gets to choose (1 vote per state, not per rep) which would give it to Trump
I think it'll be decided on Dec 14, but we'll see. The SCOTUS did not rule in Bush's favor alllllll the way until Dec 12.
Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), O'Connor joined with four other justices on December 12, 2000, to rule on the Bush v. Gore case that ceased challenges to the results of the 2000 presidential election (ruling to stop the ongoing Florida election recount and to allow no further recounts). This case effectively ended Gore's hopes to become president. Some legal scholars have argued that she should have recused herself from this case, citing several reports that she became upset when the media initially announced that Gore had won Florida, with her husband explaining that they would have to wait another four years before retiring to Arizona.[63] O'Connor expressed surprise that the decision became controversial.[64] Some people in Washington stopped shaking her hand after the decision, and Arthur Miller confronted her about it at the Kennedy Center.[64]
Can someone explain to me why she is not eligible to be president?
Don’t say because Trump will win, I know that, but I am asking why Biden would have picked her if she is ineligible to be president? What makes her ineligible?
IIRC she was born to two non-citizens, but born in the United States. However, she was born a couple years before the law was put into place that made everyone born in the US to non-citizen parents automatically a citizen, and the office of the President and Vice President cannot be held except by natural born citizens.
Or congress (house) can grand stand and Pelosi would take charge. They have an out people keep skimming over, their is nothing the republicans or scotus can do to stop that either.
No, the magic number of 270 is set in the Constitution, if Biden only had 3 certified electors and Trump had none then the next provision of selection kicks in, the House votes, 1 vote for each state. Each Congressman casts a vote, the winner of the result of each states representative then gets the state electoral vote.
For instance, my state Colorado has 7 congressmen/women they all vote, if they do based on party lines then the vote will be 4-3 in favor of Biden and 1 electoral vote goes to Biden.
If all state congress-critters vote on party lines Trump will win 27-23 state electoral votes.
Our forefathers made sure that the electoral college could not be swayed by large metropolis, either by popular vote or congressional vote.
No, if SCOTUS does not step in by Dec 14 it will be up to the states. Electors are certified by states legislature. If the republican controlled state legislatures in the contested states understand their Constitutional duty they will select Trump electors regardless of the 'vote count' and Trump will be certified by 270+ electors. If the states cannot get their certification done by the 5th the next provision kicks in and Congress votes for President, 1 vote per state, Trump wins 27-23 if votes are along party lines. Trump has several paths to victory, starting with State courts, then SCOTUS, then state legislatures, then Congress. Biden has only one, the rigged results.
Relying on the states to select Trump electors regardless of the count seems risky. Still lots of RINOs and deep state'ers out there. Or some that might just be scared of the backlash of going against the media narrative. That's the problem, Dems always move in lockstep but Republicans don't, and there's lots of backstabbers out there.
I didn't say it was smart lol, I said it was the next provision if the states cannot certify electors.
Is it a path? Yes, is it a guaranteed path? Nope
Either way it goes, I am quite confident that the GOP as a major party in the US is dead. 73 million MAGA voters are not going to just say, well fuck it, Trump lost I guess I'm just going to be GOP again. No, once you are red pilled you will never go back. MAGA is the new party of the free in America.
The beauty is liberals can call MAGA anything they want, but MAGA has proven itself to be the REAL party of inclusion and diversity. We embrace everyone equally because we are a nationalist party, we only see America, and we only see Americans. We do not see color, we do not care about sexual orientation, there are no tribes other then the American tribe.
Throwing off the shackles of the Republican party will be our greatest strength. There are millions of Democrats and Independents that abhor the Republican party, but are also tired of the Democrats as well. They are receptive of the MAGA message, because they are still patriots first. We saw them flock to Trump by the millions, and that was with the albatross of Republican hanging around his neck.
If Trump somehow looses this, he will bring an Army to MAGA, the GOP will crumble, if they survive to 2024 it would be a miracle.
I guess what I'm saying in that long winded post is, if it makes it to Congress vote, RINOs and Backstabbers will be forced to hold their noses and vote Trump, the sake of their party depends on it, and they know it.
we saw the impeachment scam.. no republican broke ranks.. keep writing to your senators and congressmen! they need to understand that the people are behind Trump 100% and that they need to back him right now!
Question: What will the house of reps vote on? Who wins the election in general or independently for whether the state is red/blue (EX: PA, AZ,etc.). And if Trump wins through this process, what happens to the map of swing states? Will they become red?
According to the professor--- if the results are still contested (as in 1800 and 1820) then each STATE in the union gets 1 vote in the US House of Reps. Which would be 37 Republican States.
If it goes to the House of Reps then the vote totals are completely thrown out and immaterial
Yeah but the dem states can grand stand and let pelosi take over if it came to that. It’s why everyone says this really isn’t an option either side would let it get too.
The cat is out of the bag, and you are seeing a last gasp tidal wave of propaganda being levied out by the MSM and their minions on social media.
Today the cover of the NYT exclaimed there is no voter fraud. None. Not even a tiny bit, and if you think you saw any it was just your imagination.
News broadcasts all over the country tonight (we sadly had the 5:00 CBS news on at work this evening) are running numerous segments about 'President Biden' and his plans for this and that and the next thing.
All designed to convince the people Biden is the rightfully elected candidate right before shit hits the fan.
At least, I hope. Because god damn, the propaganda is reaching levels previously thought to be purely theoretical.
One thing I've paid a lot of attention to, ever since the debate with Killary when she addressed him as Donald, specifically to make sure to note that he didn't have any official title, is when a news article refers to our beloved President as simply "Mr. Trump". When i see that instead of President Trump, to me, you might as be one of the dumb fucks that call him Drumpf or tRump
Well, it takes a certain kind of person to swallow the propaganda and believe though. Mostly Boomers/ Gen Xers late in their careers that crave stability above all else, and the perpetually Un/underemployed soy-faggots we all make fun, that through lack of ability, but more importantly lack of drive, need those gibs the Democrats have promised to ultimately make ends meet.
It's a trick question designed for TRUMP SUPPORTERS. When Wallace says "independently certified", note that he did NOT say "legally certified". This was a set-up question to make Trump supporters accept the fraud that Wallace knew was coming.
"Hey, if Biden commits to 'independent' people calling the election, you guys should, too. Right? Right!!!? NOOOO we didn't mean LEGALLY certified!! Not that kind of independence! We meant US YOU LYING BIGOT TRAITORS"
every other response he had was just a flat lie knowing the press was on his side. he literally denied things with mulitple sources of direct video footage or in the case of his shitbag son DIRECTLY ADMITTING HE HAD THE JOB FOR HIS NAME.
I remember when Trump campaign first had a press conference about the fraud, they announced Biden as the victor right before they were about to speak. It was a panic move. Now they are desperately trying to normalize and brainwash people to just accept Biden before the clock runs out.
He couldn't wait to lie!!
Trump got in and immediately kept promises. Joe thinks hes in and immediately breaks promises. They call trump the liar......... Right!
I want to know who that actor is. That's not Joe Biden. Do some comparisons to Biden's live interviews and photos even a year ago. Either he died down in that basement or this is a clone and he is resting in a nursing home somewhere. THIS IS NOT HIM. I've been comparing subtle things like ears, hairline, nose, lips. This is not just aging, this is a completely other person reading scripts and doing what he's told. That's why Harris is so gleeful. That horrid witch/Tranny believes he/she/it is actually gonna be our President.
Yeah, not gonna happen. Just flipping the Scorecard and Dominion nonsense will put Donald J. Trump at 3x Biden's votes.
HERE'S MY PREDICTION PEDES: I PREDICT IT WILL TURN OUT THAT JOE BIDEN GOT 17 MILLION VOTES. THAT'S A FAVORITE NUMBER OF Q AND POTUS... WOULDN'T THAT BE DELICIOUS!?
He's just a speedbump.
If the counts are contested in court still come Jan 20 then under the 12th amendment the House of Reps gets to choose (1 vote per state, not per rep) which would give it to Trump
I think it'll be decided on Dec 14, but we'll see. The SCOTUS did not rule in Bush's favor alllllll the way until Dec 12.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Day_O%27Connor#Supreme_Court_jurisprudence
The best part is how Trump answered that exact same question:
https://streamable.com/xfnblk.
Trump told the brutal truth
And Biden lied, with a smile
He knew about the bad things happening in Philadelphia long before they even happened!
and he picked a Jamaican Indian who is not eligible to be President!
Can someone explain to me why she is not eligible to be president?
Don’t say because Trump will win, I know that, but I am asking why Biden would have picked her if she is ineligible to be president? What makes her ineligible?
I think there’s the argument that neither of her parents were citizens and she’s an anchor baby.
IIRC she was born to two non-citizens, but born in the United States. However, she was born a couple years before the law was put into place that made everyone born in the US to non-citizen parents automatically a citizen, and the office of the President and Vice President cannot be held except by natural born citizens.
Traitor Joe can't tell Indian skin from African! Do they all look alike to you, xir Joe?
Holy shit watching that again makes me hate chris wallace even more what a human piece of shit.
Can we get a mute button for the dumbasses that ask "questions" during these debates???
Honestly, their entire job could just be replaced by handing the candidates a flash card with the question written out.
Trump knew.
Also Chris Wallace is such a faggot.
Yup. And that was only 3 counties. Pepe Farms remembers
Go fuck yourself you data mining faggot
Deport
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We don't have until Jan 20th. We have until Dec 14th.
That's when the electors vote and it will be finalized whether its Trump or Biden.
I was referencing this excellent professor explaining the 12th amendment
highly rec https://www.facebook.com/shanevaughn38/videos/10219945275044223/
How can the electors vote if nothing is certified?
Or congress (house) can grand stand and Pelosi would take charge. They have an out people keep skimming over, their is nothing the republicans or scotus can do to stop that either.
Pelosi will no be speaker on the 20th, with the additional gained seats and returning Dems who voted against her she will not be speaker on Jan 20.
Congress will have selected the new speaker the week of Jan 5.
Our forefathers set up the system very well, the start of the Congressional session is before the swearing in of the new President for a reason.
They will go off the current counts, unless Trump can get the illegal ballots thrown out via the courts or recounts before then.
For example, if electors voted today it would go to Biden.
Yea but if they voted the night of November 3rd, Trump wins then. :p Where it matters~
Even with no official state certifications in place, besides Vermont?
Spez: I guess Biden would win 3-0 if that happened
No, the magic number of 270 is set in the Constitution, if Biden only had 3 certified electors and Trump had none then the next provision of selection kicks in, the House votes, 1 vote for each state. Each Congressman casts a vote, the winner of the result of each states representative then gets the state electoral vote.
For instance, my state Colorado has 7 congressmen/women they all vote, if they do based on party lines then the vote will be 4-3 in favor of Biden and 1 electoral vote goes to Biden.
If all state congress-critters vote on party lines Trump will win 27-23 state electoral votes.
Our forefathers made sure that the electoral college could not be swayed by large metropolis, either by popular vote or congressional vote.
What happens after the electors vote on Dec 14th that leaves a window open to change it?
Does this mean that it could be possible the electors vote for Biden, but SCOTUS decides something between Dec 14th and Jan 6th that could change it?
No, if SCOTUS does not step in by Dec 14 it will be up to the states. Electors are certified by states legislature. If the republican controlled state legislatures in the contested states understand their Constitutional duty they will select Trump electors regardless of the 'vote count' and Trump will be certified by 270+ electors. If the states cannot get their certification done by the 5th the next provision kicks in and Congress votes for President, 1 vote per state, Trump wins 27-23 if votes are along party lines. Trump has several paths to victory, starting with State courts, then SCOTUS, then state legislatures, then Congress. Biden has only one, the rigged results.
Hold the line.
Relying on the states to select Trump electors regardless of the count seems risky. Still lots of RINOs and deep state'ers out there. Or some that might just be scared of the backlash of going against the media narrative. That's the problem, Dems always move in lockstep but Republicans don't, and there's lots of backstabbers out there.
I didn't say it was smart lol, I said it was the next provision if the states cannot certify electors.
Is it a path? Yes, is it a guaranteed path? Nope
Either way it goes, I am quite confident that the GOP as a major party in the US is dead. 73 million MAGA voters are not going to just say, well fuck it, Trump lost I guess I'm just going to be GOP again. No, once you are red pilled you will never go back. MAGA is the new party of the free in America.
The beauty is liberals can call MAGA anything they want, but MAGA has proven itself to be the REAL party of inclusion and diversity. We embrace everyone equally because we are a nationalist party, we only see America, and we only see Americans. We do not see color, we do not care about sexual orientation, there are no tribes other then the American tribe.
Throwing off the shackles of the Republican party will be our greatest strength. There are millions of Democrats and Independents that abhor the Republican party, but are also tired of the Democrats as well. They are receptive of the MAGA message, because they are still patriots first. We saw them flock to Trump by the millions, and that was with the albatross of Republican hanging around his neck.
If Trump somehow looses this, he will bring an Army to MAGA, the GOP will crumble, if they survive to 2024 it would be a miracle.
I guess what I'm saying in that long winded post is, if it makes it to Congress vote, RINOs and Backstabbers will be forced to hold their noses and vote Trump, the sake of their party depends on it, and they know it.
we saw the impeachment scam.. no republican broke ranks.. keep writing to your senators and congressmen! they need to understand that the people are behind Trump 100% and that they need to back him right now!
Question: What will the house of reps vote on? Who wins the election in general or independently for whether the state is red/blue (EX: PA, AZ,etc.). And if Trump wins through this process, what happens to the map of swing states? Will they become red?
According to the professor--- if the results are still contested (as in 1800 and 1820) then each STATE in the union gets 1 vote in the US House of Reps. Which would be 37 Republican States.
If it goes to the House of Reps then the vote totals are completely thrown out and immaterial
Of course, there's nothing to say those reps would vote their color. Though 37 should be safe enough.
Yeah but the dem states can grand stand and let pelosi take over if it came to that. It’s why everyone says this really isn’t an option either side would let it get too.
The cat is out of the bag, and you are seeing a last gasp tidal wave of propaganda being levied out by the MSM and their minions on social media.
Today the cover of the NYT exclaimed there is no voter fraud. None. Not even a tiny bit, and if you think you saw any it was just your imagination.
News broadcasts all over the country tonight (we sadly had the 5:00 CBS news on at work this evening) are running numerous segments about 'President Biden' and his plans for this and that and the next thing.
All designed to convince the people Biden is the rightfully elected candidate right before shit hits the fan.
At least, I hope. Because god damn, the propaganda is reaching levels previously thought to be purely theoretical.
Democrats are ruining this country one way or another, and their propaganda arm needs to be replaced.
No, democrats need to be replaced.
The entire party should have been made illegal by Abraham Lincoln after the first time the democrat party caused an American Civil War.
We can do both
One thing I've paid a lot of attention to, ever since the debate with Killary when she addressed him as Donald, specifically to make sure to note that he didn't have any official title, is when a news article refers to our beloved President as simply "Mr. Trump". When i see that instead of President Trump, to me, you might as be one of the dumb fucks that call him Drumpf or tRump
Yeah, not even a smidgen of "voter fraud." Now voter suppression, that is what is rampant, and it's all Republicans doing it too. /s
You’re not kidding. Holy shit.
Well, it takes a certain kind of person to swallow the propaganda and believe though. Mostly Boomers/ Gen Xers late in their careers that crave stability above all else, and the perpetually Un/underemployed soy-faggots we all make fun, that through lack of ability, but more importantly lack of drive, need those gibs the Democrats have promised to ultimately make ends meet.
LYIN' DOG FACED PONY SOLDIER
Listen here, fat
Joe Biden's the only person I've ever seen call someone "fat."
As a noun.
Pedo Joe for GITMO
Dude learned from Kamala!
[cackle] It was a debate! It was a debate! [more cackling]
It's a trick question designed for TRUMP SUPPORTERS. When Wallace says "independently certified", note that he did NOT say "legally certified". This was a set-up question to make Trump supporters accept the fraud that Wallace knew was coming.
"Hey, if Biden commits to 'independent' people calling the election, you guys should, too. Right? Right!!!? NOOOO we didn't mean LEGALLY certified!! Not that kind of independence! We meant US YOU LYING BIGOT TRAITORS"
Great observation
every other response he had was just a flat lie knowing the press was on his side. he literally denied things with mulitple sources of direct video footage or in the case of his shitbag son DIRECTLY ADMITTING HE HAD THE JOB FOR HIS NAME.
I remember when Trump campaign first had a press conference about the fraud, they announced Biden as the victor right before they were about to speak. It was a panic move. Now they are desperately trying to normalize and brainwash people to just accept Biden before the clock runs out.
The one good question Cuck Wallace asked
He already violated law by talking to South Korea about North Korea.
He knows he lost. Psyops is the only possible way he can pull this off
Guyz, c'mon! The AP has called the Presidential race for Joe Biden.
AP after all those states are flipped back:
"Uhhh... uhh... c'mon man!"
The mainstream misledia decided Joe Biden got 290 electoral votes!!!
At this point, the real breaking news would be if Joe Biden told the truth.
Subscribe to GEOTUS Trump's YouTube channel! It has 2.15M subscribers right now. That's where I saw that:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAql2DyGU2un1Ei2nMYsqOA
Is anyone even surprised at this point?
They are brainless what did you think?
Trump needs to tweet this. They grilled him in both debates AND made a big deal about it in 2016. Trump needs to point this out.
Lying dog faced pony soldier.
biden is just happy he beat McCain.
They probably just old Joe that it happened. Not like he's running anything. He just read lines, and dances.
The Biden family (family, not individual) is super corrupt. Jill, James, Hunter, Joe etc.
Comparable to the Clintons.
Desperation.
To be fair, he doesn't remember saying that
Biden gonna Biden. Dems gonna Dem.
Dims gonna dim
It’s almost like Wallace knew exactly what was going to happen.
He really meant he won't concede until the vote is independently verified.
liah liah liah
They've been planning this for a while
Bad shit happens to fucking idiots like this
That’s a move a dog faced pony soldier would make.
Logan Act
Listen Fat
Thank you for sharing this! I remember him saying this but was unable to find it!
He said it’s going to take time to do it so when they ship ballots in late it doesn’t look suspicious
Frauden
Everything he says is lies I bet corn pop wasn’t even a bad dude
We counted at least 18 Biden lies in that debate.
He couldn't wait to lie!! Trump got in and immediately kept promises. Joe thinks hes in and immediately breaks promises. They call trump the liar......... Right!
Who needs official certification when you have the media doing it for you!
To be fair, he didn’t know what he was saying or where he was or what was being counted or his name or... I could go on
He's a lying dog faced pony soldier.
I want to know who that actor is. That's not Joe Biden. Do some comparisons to Biden's live interviews and photos even a year ago. Either he died down in that basement or this is a clone and he is resting in a nursing home somewhere. THIS IS NOT HIM. I've been comparing subtle things like ears, hairline, nose, lips. This is not just aging, this is a completely other person reading scripts and doing what he's told. That's why Harris is so gleeful. That horrid witch/Tranny believes he/she/it is actually gonna be our President.
Yeah, not gonna happen. Just flipping the Scorecard and Dominion nonsense will put Donald J. Trump at 3x Biden's votes.
HERE'S MY PREDICTION PEDES: I PREDICT IT WILL TURN OUT THAT JOE BIDEN GOT 17 MILLION VOTES. THAT'S A FAVORITE NUMBER OF Q AND POTUS... WOULDN'T THAT BE DELICIOUS!?
Not criminal, just another lying politician.
He'll say whatever sounds good in the moment. Nobody's ever going to hold him to anything.
I mean, there's plenty of things to get Biden on. We don't need to make stuff up.
He didn't say that, but he's also no good.