Lifelong Cali Dem here. 2016 came around and I couldn't, in good faith, vote for Hillary, and Donald was wildcard and a republican so that was also a no-go. voted 3rd party
- world is ending. Tim Pool handing out massive redpills left and right. decided to look into big bad orange man for myself and I found out EVERYTHING is a fucking lie. I can't go back.
I voted Trump for 2020
I saw my party lie cheat and (try to)steal an election
I'm in this all the way boys. i'm not losing faith in Based Donald. we can do this. never again voting dem. not my party. not my presidentelect.
There are no Democrats or Republicans here. We are all pede patriots...doing the Constitution’s work.
I hope one day that political parties will be declared unconstitutional.
You're either for your constituents, or you're a traitor and should be executed.
That escalated quickly...
I'm sick of these people who do everything they can to not do their job and hurt their own constituents. They even take bribery from people and organizations outside their district/state/country, then call it "campaign contributions".
These people are scum and should be treated as such.
Oh and we pay them too. Disgrace
The problem is not enforcing the "guarantee a Republican form of government" clause in the US Constitution; the Problem isn't with Political Parties. Don't destroy liberty or rights of citizens, while trying to correct an identified problem which is:
Yes, taking money or campaign stuff from others outside the jurisdiction, is a problem which lays at the feet of the Supreme Court. More Strict-Constitutionalists, more anti-marxists, more battle-scarred resumes. The ASHWANDER RULES have to go, written by marxist and worst justice imo of the Supreme Courts history. It tells the Courts to not do their job of striking things down on constitutional grounds if it can be avoided, so all the crap has built up over 8+ decades.
Political parties exist to subvert the will of the people. Having them destroys the rights and liberties of citizens.
The representative is there to act on behalf of their jurisdiction, not on the whims of some party which exists outside that jurisdiction.
First sentence is not accurate and pretty blackpiled. There's been A LOT of this kind of crap around TD lately, I don't know where it's coming from, but it comes in cycles.
2nd sentance, also not accurate. Parties are "free association", and in a free society you can chose who to spend your time with or not. Other countries "ban" such things, this is the USA, you can't "ban" like the SCOTUS lets "ban on gang members associating" stand; if there's a crime then do the time; otherwise its nonsense.
Parties are roughly associations of ideas. And as people come up with "new ideas" like say "Lets tax CO2 to stop climate change" this will be debated, and might find either support or friction within a party. As the numbers of people whom support an idea grow, it turns into action like: legislation, budgets, laws, etc.
You last sentence, is by someone who's never been in office or up close to government at any level. By any poltical body requiring at least a majority to pass something (like congress) means that Representitive member, by definition has to work with others outside of that representtitives district. It's literally the framework of our REPUBLIC. Your (blue/blackpilled) understanding/framework is like when people say (like just a few weeks ago on a European News broadcasting a segment in front of the WH) "The Electoral College is anti-American"; no it's the exact opposite! the Electoral College was invented by our Founding Fathers and literally written into the US Constitution to deal with just these very things, it's even more AMERICAN than apple pie.
[National Treasure-type Redpill] The US Constitution, hidden within it's bowels, is the 2 party system. If any party gets too weak it is replaced by a new party; if one party gets to big, it splits in two like biological cell division.
The US Constitution is maximum individual Liberty, and smallest government possible; while still having a functioning government above the Tribe/State level; and it was designed to be able to span across the map (Manifest Destiny) and still function well, even better than the Globe spanning British Empire from which it came from. Founders like Ben Franklin spent years in London, and knew what it took firsthand to run such a government, with navy ships and peoples in every corner of the globe, which the sun never set.
One last thing, human nature and things like we call neurobiology and other names; combined with experience/life/wisdom mean people tend to process things into different ways in their head in how they see the world; how they want to solve things. We make lots of Memes on this of course, like the REEEEEs without any logic function left. But this tends throughout human history, in ancient times, our Founders times and today; to put people into two different ways of thinking about things.
Similar to a proper debate or our converstation here. In a good debate, one side will be for something (like me explaining political parties) and one side against (like you position on parties).
There were poltical parties in ancient Rome, Athens, in London (Scots vs England), in 1775, in 1787, and yes our Founders were in political parties (Loyalists vs Rebels); and the quote about G. Washington is taken a bit out of context, once realising that he himself was in various parties throughout his career from the British Army to head of the American Army.
I hope the above helps. More Redpills. More winning!
I disagree with your take on matters of party. People are allowed to freely associate. On the other hand, representatives should do nothing but represent.
When there is a vote which is exactly along "party lines", it means congress has all just committed treason against their constituents. The only consideration they should have is whether this is good or not good for my people, not some "party".
There may be many matters of which different groups of people agree or disagree with. The representative should be choosing which group to vote along with on a topic by topic basis, inline with what their constituents want. The moment they start to vote in lockstep with a particular group on every single issue, that is no longer representation, that is treason.
Our current system even has these parties incentivize their members to vote in lockstep with them as often as possible, which is nothing but a betrayal of their constituents.
If there was merit to parties, then there would be dozens of them on a large variety of topics, and people would be members of multiple parties simultaneously. Representatives would then choose to go along with the the sets of parties that most closely matches the needs of their constituents. Many representatives would be in a unique combination of parties that no one else is a part of. Since this is not the case, parties do not represent some ideas, they represent control and subversion.
The constitution does not enshrine any of this, that there should be a majority and minority, and all these other concepts they use now in order to put a stranglehold on congress in order to prevent a different set of needs and values to flourish. It also creates a dichotomy of you're with me or against me, and there is absolutely nothing American about this process.
Generally speaking parties are just groups that push ideas for the country. It would be nice to at some point relegate the commies to the basement padded cell so the rest of us could have actual real disagreements and politics.
Not everyone here agrees on everything. That’s a good thing. Working out how to find the good parts of each idea and move forward, that’s real politics.
I like it
REPUBLICANS = FOR OUR REPUBLIC, OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTITIVE REPUBLIC!
DEMOCRATS = Want to turn our Republic into A DEMOCRACY.
LEFTIES = Want to then turn that Democracy into a Commietopia;
which quickly devolves into a Dictatorship since all the checks and balances have been removed.
In other parts of the world, the marxists also weaken Monarchies into Parliamentary systems w/o a Functioning Monarchy to drive to socialsim-fascism-communism.
Marxism (light) = Socialsim
Marxism (medium) = Fascism
Marxism (heavy) = Communism
Marxism is evil in all its forms, and attracts other evils to it. Marxism is an evil ideology which promotes at least 3 violations of the 10 Commandments: theft, covetting, and killing/murder.
FOR LIFE, FOR LIBERTY, FOR PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS (no lockdowns)!
VOTE REPUBLICAN AND JOIN REPUBLICAN!
LONG LIVE OUR REPUBLIC!!
Flush those bluepills down the drain, get over your hang-ups if you have any about the Republcian Party. It's a big tent, no group or organization is going to be 100% in lockstep; there will always be a RINO or two; there will aways be deepstate-sockpuppets trying to sellout; etc. GOP stands for GRAND OLD PARTY; like the GRAND OLD OPREY to country music. And again, every organization or group is giong to have "an establishment" which keeps the wheels on, keeps the lights on, keeps the floors swept and mopped. The GOP and "nice blue haired old ladies" or equivalent whom normaly work the polls, volunteer, fundraise, make phone calls, etc are required in any sizeable organization.
The Commies have been doing their "Long March Through The Institutions" the commies will take over organizations, and use them and burn them down after they stop serving their useful purpose. The SOLUTION isn't to abandon the organizations, it's to FIGHT AND STOP THE MARXISTS. So be it Boy Scouts, Professional Sports, Advertising, Media, Catholic Church, Methodist Church, Universities/Colleges, Elementary Schools, Military, FIB, Courthouses, USPS, USPTO, Companies, Disney, StarWars, etc etc etc.
Incoming CRT Ban, 1776 Commission, and many other things are going to shrink the Marxists in these institutions and companies like shrinking a cancer tumor.
Welcome! Glad you came around. Get your friends and family to see the light like you did. Its the only way to keep America.
welcome to a life based on facts and truths rather than feelings and coverups
Yeah that's the funny part. Trump isn't even that far right. He is more moderate than most republicans. I dont think he cares for party affiliation it's all about the MAGA.
I've been trying to tell so many people that. The only ones somewhat readily accept that statement are already Republicans! The ones that reject without a second thought? Surprisingly not Democrats outright, but strictly people that frequently rely on MSM and small scale MSM leechers (like Vox, slate, etc.) for all their information. They think they are informed when they are actually just good at reciting propaganda.
Hopefully they wake up. My wife in 2016 didn't like Trump but voted for him. 2020 she still didn't like his character but loved what he is doing for the country so she voted for him. The night of the election she absolutely lost her shit about the fraud. It was so in your face. She isn't mad because its Trump she is seething with anger because our votes are being decided for us like a third world country.
Both my aunt and uncle were the same way for the 2020 election. They knew they had to vote Trump but were very hard pressed to say anything good about him. Don't know what they think about the fraud though.
You are right. Trump has changed parties many times. If a Republican is elected president, he becomes a Democrat and vice versa. He is anti-corruption and pro-USA. Plain and simple. His policies are pretty moderate and 100% pro-USA.
Good call man. Am a classical liberal myself, there's a lot of people here in a similar boat. Let me do what I want, without gov't trying to stick its wang everywhere. Trump is the real deal, I saw him pissing off the media in early 2016 and figured he had to be doing something right.
Have a coat fren.
Exactly. We need to keep tabs on who wants to MAGA and who is a RINO. Any republican that isn't supporting Trump right now need to be voted out asap. Send a message that we are the party not those corrupt cuck ass politicians.
Amen.
Unfortunately that's the fastest way to turn into Venezuela. The collectivist Dems will not break up unless their party is dissolved. Sad, but as long as they are organized into a large collective we need one as well beat them. Splintering the vote like Perot in '92 did is the fastest way to go to Hell.
On top of this Trump literally gave the Republican party to us patriots like it's on a silver fucking platter. To go against this (at least as long as the Dems are organized) is to spit on Trump's will. He is a Republican after all.
Go participate in the primary! Get your friends and family to as well! This is how you reform the party and what Trump wants us to do. He did it, why shouldn't we try to follow his example?
That's why so many of the Republicans were silent after Election Night. They know that once the Democratic machine fraud is exposed and brought down, they are next. Some - the MAGA candidates, the Patriots, the Constitutionalists - decided to stand with the President because they believe in his agenda, in our movement, and protecting the security of our elections and the sanctity of our processes, even if that means the death of the two major parties in the next few years. But they also signed on for the Lion Party. And the American people will be quick to weed out the genuine lions from the RINOs who are only now placing their flaccid support behind the President in order to cover their asses.
Do you disavow?
Welcome aboard!
Welcome home, fren.
hello fren
Do you think Trump won California if they threw out all the cheating? Or do they hate him that much they will vote for China Joe?
HAVE A COAT!
Get this man a coat and a brick!
Welcome home 🙂 we’re glad to have you!
There's 94% Republican support for Trump.
It's important for new-to-R-side to recognize while they can that that other 6% is the "Leadership/Centrists/Big Business Types/RINOs" and their buddies, the media.
They incessantly scream that the base is "way out in wackadoo land thataway!" But. If you think, they are the Big Business guys the Left hates, right out in front.
Trump is off the typical European Political Axis in the Freedom/Jacksonian/Conservative-Libertarian direction. He is a long way from the RINOs - but it's off axis
This is precisely why they all hate him. And precisely why he has 94% R-base approval.
So. You'll eventually twig to Republicans that did heinous things. Look at my list. They're all in one of those categories.
2018 had a pile 'step down', and I'd be shocked if more aren't removed along the way.
Welcome. We are not supporters of Republican globalist neo-cons like Bush, McCain, Romney, etc. We should re-name our movement the Lion party or something else that embraces our Constitution, free speech, right to bear arms, puts all of it's people and Country first, etc. Many of us here have been Democrats in the past. I am mostly a Classical Liberal. Appreciate your post and hope to see more.
Hey man, everybody has a past. Welcome!
Welcome back to the fight. This time I know the patriots will win.
You're going to find that a lot of people around here have a similar story - centrist or left-leaning people who were abandoned and betrayed by the Democrat side of the establishment machine, and whose eyes were opened when that machine started showing the world how ugly it really is.
The second an outsider to that establishment started threatening their racket, they started flexing every muscle they had to try to turn the world against him.
When the establishment, the entirety of the media, and big corporations all coordinate to baselessly smear someone like this, you know they're scared. The question is: what are they scared of?
The answer is: they're scared that the people are catching on to their game.
Just wait for all the rabbit holes there are to go down. We are done with the lies and the censoring
Welcome, Jedi. I have a similar story. I was actually pretty left wing blackpilled doomer minded less than a year ago.Take your newfound boons of light and share them with your dem friends. The truth will set us free.
I love the attitude. Hang in there. We're going to win. Donald doesn't lose.
LFG!
Welcome to the club. Tell your friends and family, we don't usually bite.
You and I are cut of the same cloth - only, I never looked back after wiki leaks. Life long Cali dem —> Trump THAT’S AWESOME! I too don’t fit the Media’s stereotype of the dreaded Trump supporter : 31/f/w/hippie chick. The two parties mean NOTHING. This is about saving humanity - dramatic, I know.. but the truth. Glad to have you among the ranks <3
Welcome to the Watchlist.
Trump 2020.
Former Cali democrat myself, they tell you in Cali that the red pill is a suicide pill. I doubt your friends followed suit, I was blocked by all but 1 of my lifelong Cali friends, and even he thinks I'm crazy most of the time. The programing is strong here.
This is my exact same story
Wow, you've really changed to a bigger and better person thanks to the dirty criminal Democrats. Stay focused and woke!
I am President Elect
It is about Trump > and he pisses me off at times....but he almost single handedly keeping America a thing at the moment. The RepubliCANT party is destroying America slowly (something RADICAL needs to happen). Swamp needs to start going to PRISON too.
Welcome! :)
If our boy doesn't win this, then it really won't matter who we vote for ever again.
Of course you won't go back.
Winners go forward.
Welcome aboard patriot 🇺🇸
Register GOP. We have taken it over.
There are some people saying "FUCK THE GOP", but I swear they've been smelling glue. We are the GOP now. Trump owns the GOP. They will never win another race without us. Every one of us who registers strengthens our hold over the party, its officers, its agenda.. and pushes the RINO ROMNEYS out.
Welcome Doost, hold on this train ride has no brakes
Quite a few of us aren't traditional conservatives, anyways. I'm a Libertarian who sided with the POTUS, and I know some others who lean Libertarian who've voted, and continue to support him. MAGA is a movement that's beyond the Democrat, Republican dichotomy, so welcome aboard!
I still believe that one day, Tim will don that MAGA beanie. He says he won't but he also said he would never vote for Trump. Times tend to change people. But yea shout out to him. He is 3/4ths the reason I never went insane with TDS.
I'm a calipede too. I'm happy you're here, everyone is welcome. But if I ever meet you in person I'm going to kick you square in the dick. Or cunt punt, in case your a woman. But I'll shake your hand after and get you an ice pack. But you deserve it. Just saying.