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and make damn sure to convert as many 1rst class citizens (NOT a felon ) into 2nd or 3rd class citizens with felon for life charges and no NO path to reintegrate a young person back to a 1rst class no felon citizen.
Lol a couple people salty and downvoting the chain..no 1 saying all cops are bad or need defunding.
But we also don’t have to be blind followers of thin blue line and pretend all cops are heroes and honest.
Every profession has its bad apples, this includes law enforcement—
How are we forgetting the enforcemebt of covid shut down bs. Either support the constitution or fuck you. You're nothing more than a leftard with a badge. It's really that simple
It's big city cops. If you live in small towns or medium cities I bet your cops are based as fuck. I know a bunch. It's the brainwashed liberal shit hole cops, ordered by the liberal mayor's and city councils that are the shitheads. Our sheriff straight up said he's not enforcing lockdowns.
It's our brass and the chiefs that are appointed by the liberal mayors. I couldn't take it anymore and I handed in my retirement paperwork. I have been done since Minneapolis burned... Fuck it
The officers want to quell the riots, but they have to follow ORDERS. Orders come from people higher up. The $60,000 salary police officers are not the problem. I understand the frustration with law enforcement generally, but the lowest level is not the problem. It’s a distraction from the problem
I understand that and won’t get into it .. however. Police require little investment unlike a college degree and get pensions and get to clean up In overtime.
Have u seen the reports during some of these riots?
Patrol officers clocking 200-400k in some cities.
I wouldn’t make them out to be underpaid, there is a lot of opportunity for them to have more than a live able salary especially after a few years
All that said I respect police like any other person. But I can still be wary and realize I must look out for myself and my best interests. We have all been lied to before from police/law
Tax payer money.
Which is fine I’m not hating on them for taking the opportunity that it’s there. I pick up OT all the time when we are short
But calling a cop poor- with a small initial investment (unlike tuition), short training period, decent starting salary with easy opportunity to work way up, OT out the ass, and a pension, at minimal is a little misconstrued.
Where I live it requires a college degree (and I live in the ass end of nowhere). The future police officers I went to college with were very much in the loser mindset of “C’s make degrees” (I ran into them in gen ed classes), but that’s what they were there for.
Oh yea dude I’m on your side.
I love picking up OT at my job but I don’t make it my life at all.
Seeing some of those numbers were wild
And yes it’s dangerous at times but tbh it’s like you said.
You mean the guys that will gleefully Hand out dubious parking and speeding infractions But do fuck all when it comes to getting vagrants off our major cities streets? The guys who will cover for one another but not the public? Yeah, I need serious convincing on them...
We’ve conducted an internal investigation and found no wrong doing.
Let’s not blindly worship people who have the ability to take our freedoms or life away because of a motto
I understand we need police but they do no help to themselves especially in these turbulent times
Who do you think will enforce Biden’s Australia-style Covid lockdown orders? Who do you think sits back (or just abandons their post to be replaced by a true leftist fellow traveler) and watches cities burn? Who do you think funnels Trump-supporting rally goers into violent opposition and does nothing while skulls get cracked (or arrests the Trump supporters if they beat the ever living shit out of their attackers)? Who do you think let’s their jurisdiction devolve to a state where Trump supporters are being mudered on video in front of dozens of people?
But “muh rural police are based”... Go ask rural NYers how easily they were essentially disarmed and how little real support they got from police. How many Texans being forced to wear a face diaper right now? From where I sit the thin blue line right now is as thin and protective as toilet paper.
Bet you don’t call 911 when you’re getting cuffed and stuffed for violating an outdoor mask mandate because it will be an LEO doing it.
You'd be a fucking retard to willingly invite law enforcement into your life. But there are a lot of people that aren't retired at Texas Grand Ranch with mUh kImBeRs and carry permits. I know you think an overweight retiree with a concealed compact 45 can save the world one Citgo at a time but you can't. I'm willing to bet your family or friends have used police services in the past with satisfactory results. A fuckload of innocent and helpless people will be harmed without police officers and law enforcement. I know it AND DONALD TRUMP knows it. So feel free to fuck off and watch your squirrel feeder, some of us are busy helping people.
We both know if the president walked in front of your well worn recliner and asked you about police you wouldn't say a fucking word.
It's because the police aren't the right's or the left's friend. They're just government beatsticks dedicated to enforcing BS rules (taking our guns?) by those with more political power than you. On top of that it's an after-college frat house for some of the least intelligent and most aggressive members of our society (violent criminals being the other ones). Anyone ever stop to consider how they're two sides of the same coin?
There are legal precedent where scoring too well on their tests, proving that you're too smart to follow the most questionable orders, is enough to get you barred from being a police officer. They want the dumbest brutes around that won't question their laws. When was the last time police stopped a violent crime near you, located your stolen goods, or even assisted you in defending yourself? Or do you only see them when their giving you a speeding ticket to help meet the city's budget needs? How about when they're lying to you to trick you into giving away your legal rights in order to make their jobs easier?
The only people that become police are those with a power fetish or those who want to do good, but are too stupid to realize that becoming a police officer is the worst possible way to try and do it.
Police should have checks and balances just like all the other parts of our government. Right now we as people have no way to prevent police from abusing their power other than to hope that we can afford to take it to court and that it's a big enough deal to do so.
Agreed, but the show of force needs civilian oversight.
Police Department, with "internal issues" overseen by rotating board of citizens.
President has congress, Police have unlimited rights, untouchable pensions and slush funds?
Sorry, but it's time to fix up your Old Boy's Club. Frat life ends in college and it's time police are held accountable by the people they control in a mutual relationship.
Good read, though the tl;dr of it is that the agent used very obvious and overt techniques to get Hopkins to doubt himself by psychologically manipulating him the entire time.
All of the tactics he used are very standard psychological manipulation tactics. The kind of thing you’d learn in the first week or month. Any time someone promises you from the outset that above all else they’re going to be honest about everything they do with you, and they press that point repeatedly, they’re lying. Honest people just speak their mind, which is why people trust Trump. They don’t make a speech trying to convince you of their honesty. If it was true they wouldn’t need the sales pitch. It’s not like you aren’t already in the room talking to them. Honesty is the default assumption. You only cement that if you’re about to veer outside of it in startling ways.
He also said he was going to stress him out because that will make his memory clearer. It will actually do the opposite. It’s why so many people say they don’t ‘test well’. It’s very easy to fuck with people’s memories and implant false ones. I have some false memories from times I’ve been in an accident and was passed out while it occurred. I was told the story of what happened and had to tell it so many times that I remember it as if I was not passed out. You can implant memories and alter them if you bring someone’s guard down. The agent is quite literally trying to shred the evidence in Hopkins’ brain up so there will be nothing to show in court. He even went doublethink on it by telling Hopkins that he’s not going to scare him but is going to scare him. I think the left got the wrong message from 1984.
The part where he said he couldn’t let him leave was one of the worst. He made it seem like he would be harassed if he left and wouldn’t let him talk to people when he left. It’s what domestic abusers do to their significant others. Make it seem like everyone else hates you and make them ask for their permission to do things when really you can do whatever the fuck you want in that situation within the bounds of the law.
Very good assessment. I do think he's very good at his line of work and to me it's doubtful that he is simply an USPS IG. I would be interested to see more about his background. Wouldn't be surprised if he's ex-military and/or a spook of some sort.
That's what I was saying in another thread. He spent a half hour actually collecting details and the rest of the time getting him to fine tune the affidavit to say he never heard of any backdating postmarks.
He starts out how he believes him fully. How he wants to help him protect his interests. Then proceeds to demonstrate he doesn't believe a crime happen and works to protect the political interests.
I like the sly way he'd insert himself into compliments to Richard. How he'd praise him for his military service and then seque into how he served as well. How as military men they understand the value of integrity.
It's all done to get Richard to trust him and let him be guided into weakening the claim.
It was conducted from the beginning from the conclusion that Hopkins was wrong & the agents' job was to figure out if he was lying or mistaken.
The agents did not enter with any presupposed conclusion; the truth was a complete aside. They only cared to walk away from the interview having minimized the legal impact of the affidavit to a point of non relevancy.
They achieved that through sowing doubt, because that was the path of least resistance, not because that was their predestined assumption. The first part of the interview pokes and prods looking for the optimal avenue to the end and doubt was where they went. But they'd have been as happy with a lie, or it being audibly impossible, or having gotten the dates wrong, or Hopkins coming of as a lunatic without all his marbles.
Guy straight up said he wasn't with the feds - acted almost as if he were this guy's representation on behalf of the Postal Service - "hey buddy, I'm on your side and want to help you get this story rock solid so no one can chip away at it". The proceeds as if he's am FBI agent.
At 1:00:12 he calls him "Alec" instead of "Alex", which is his common name. The interrogator kept trying to be his friend, and yet couldn't get his name right.
These peoples mission should be to find out what the facts are. In that attempt, go ahead and twist someone a little bit. You can not just count on liars to suddenly become truth tellers just because an investigator is asking them a question. Psychological pressure is an effective tool in getting the truth out. An investigators job is not to protect the whistleblower or to be nice to him. He has to get to the truth.
I listened to the whole thing. Hopkins recorded it on his phone. He actually tells them at the end that he's recording them. They tell him they have to get permission for him to have the recording, but soon after the recording ends.
He definitely did not "retract". They asked him to clarify that he didn't hear anyone actually say they are "back dating ballots". Instead, he heard certain words and saw certain actions, by various people, that were not normal practice and led him to infer that they might be back dating ballots.
It's inconclusive, and doesn't change the fact that it needs to be investigated further. I would argue that the investigators might actually be interested in finding the truth, even if it's true that ballots were back dated, but they needed to know exactly how much Hopkins knows, and who else they would have to talk to in order to find out what happened. From the way they are speaking about "back dating," it sounds like they consider it a serious crime.
He is a Marine, also Army. Spent two tours in Afghanistan, one in Iraq. When they heard that I am guessing they realized he would be a hard nut to crack. And although he said, he could have misinterpreted, he NEVER said he did not hear what was in his sworn testimony.
I also listened to the whole thing. I was surprised that the interrogators seemed less bad than I expected, despite how disgusting they were. They basically got him to specify that he didn’t actually hear the word backdating, but that his logical conclusion (assumption) from all the different things he saw was that there was backdating. They didn’t get him to retract anything from what I could tell. They actually added some extra suspicious things to the affidavit that I would imagine would help. For example, they were specifically told to separate out the late ballots instead of sending them in the normal mail stream where he said they would be postmarked with the correct day, putting them at risk of a changed post mark date.
But still it was very creepy to listen to. Especially the first half. I wonder if they are used to interviewing people who are liars and were too heavy handed with this guy who is a good person telling the truth.
I disagree and argue that it’s worse than I expected precisely because of the fake niceness of it. Hopkins is clearly being manipulated in a progressive and intentional fashion. At a certain point he was being given orders. They acted like he needed their permission to take a break and prevented him from speaking to others during that break. This is psychological abuse.
He’d actually have been better off if the guy was overtly mean and not covertly mean. He probably kept a cheery tone in part to guard against accusations of the obvious coercion. “I abused him with a smile on my face! It wasn’t coercion.”
Agreed, they focused toward the end on how his superiors had asked for all ballots to be separated from other mail even after election day. He did not go to work the 4tg, so 5th and 6th he was still being asked to do that. Perhaps there's a legitimate reason, but that definitely needs to be looked it. Hopkins says that if they just put the ballots with the "raw" (regular stream of mail), they will be postmarked along with normal mail and sent along to Pittsburgh.
One thing that seemed really weird to me was they didn’t seem to freak out that he was recording them, but they said they would need to request permission from their bosses if he could keep the recording, and they asked if he would prefer to keep the recorder on in the room while he went on a smoke break. I worried they would have deleted it if he had left it with them. Also the interviewer asked if it was his phone used for recording, I bet because he was concerned it was being backed up to the cloud. So it seems like they were trying to limit his control over the recording.
These guys are professionals, I think they were alarmed he was recording them but there is no way they would show it. Dollars to donuts they had video and audio set up in the room they took him into.
That huge effort to make it seem that they didn't think he was coming, how the other room was messy, etc. All designed to discourage any thought that he was being videotaped IMO.
I laughed when they asked if he would like to leave the phone with them, what bastards.
The one lie everyone should practice, or make it true whenever possible, is the answer to "are you recording this?" should always be "livestreaming, actually". You are being recorded 24/7. That data has no chance of ever going away, being in dozens of hands the moment it is recorded. Make sure the same can be said of anyone acting against you.
It's crazy that they aren't accepting his eyewitness testimony as the truth but are just assuming he's lying. They aren't digging for truth, they are digging for dirt. And they do it in a "hey we're all friends here don't worry" kinda way. Bastards.
they're trying to cover for their employer/company, they don't give a single f'ck about this guy's well being or the truth. they're trying to de legitimize and weaken the wording of his claims and they did just that, i doubt any judge is going to believe anything he says from now on as credible.
Of course if he can inspire other colleagues to also go on the record about what they've heard, preferably one's who appear to be much more credible than himself, than that is something that can definitely make an impact.
Not for dirt, but to destroy his statement, they wanted to get him to recant his testimony.
Their voices became genuinely sad when he said he had immediately told others, two others. That means he has witnesses, two of them.They sounded like two kids who thought they were having pudding and found out it was squash instead :)
I just got done listening to every word of it. I feel like, fundamentally, the core truth of what he overheard and reported still came through loud and clear. He heard a conversation about backdating ballots. It shocked him. He confronted the people in that conversation. They turned away. Then he reported what he heard, all in the context of the strange directive to keep picking up and segregating ballots. He did not "retract" any of those core statements. This is all good stuff that will be useful for other lawyers and investigators on the Trump team.
It will be epic if Trump team hired a private investigator covertly from a distance monitoring the election centre building for midnight/early hours of morning new ballot deliveries and taking pics and videos.
I mean, I wasn't there and didn't see what happened, nor do I know the normal behavior of the post office, but clearly he KNOWS something wasnt right even though he's having trouble elaborating.
Like, they may have been talking in hushed tones, thought they were alone and were startled when they saw him. Things like that are hard to explain but if you experience them it would be easy to go "...Something is fucked...what the hell is going on?!"
You have the RIGHT to remain silent, use it. Cops i know have always told me, whether you've done something wrong or not, don't say a word without a lawyer
Yeah the guy was acting like he was buddies with them and was aware of their techniques. They were laughing at him and played him so bad. I can’t believe he even told them he recorded them. The guy was so upfront that they really couldn’t say much to that
The guy is a former soldier, wants to become a cop and is currently a mailman. He is an honest, sincere person with a clear respect for authority, believes in a chain of command, wants to do the right thing and stepped up when the moment came.
He is what is often called the salt of the earth. I have a lot of respect for him.
More like an honest guy, freaked out because of what he had heard and concerned as to what it might mean, freaked out that Project Veritas agreed with him as to the seriousness, freaked out that he had just been laid off, freaked out that he had to go through an interview.
A lot of people would have been on the verge of a stroke, he held up.
Im curious what the context of getting him there. This might have been like a "disciplinary hearing" or some bullshit where he might not have thought he needed one.
The line of questioning of: Do you have a lawyer? Project Veritas says they have lawyers on retainer for you but no one has assigned a lawyer to you yet? Because if they did I would make every reasonable effort possible to get them here, but since they haven't I'm going to assume you are good with proceeding, correct?
Should have tipped him off. Whenever you hear something like that, I don't care if it's kangaroo court at a daycare, you stop and say "you know what, on second thought, thanks for reminding me... I'm going to take some time to contact a lawyer and we can proceed when he gets here."
I think he thought it was a mandatory HR interview, then he thought they might be from the senior PO HR. Then once he was in there and had no real idea what the hell it was for, he stayed.
Now was that smart, maybe not. But he taped it, THAT was smart.
Very long but very good thread. Goes to show how the OIG investigators acted in extremely bad faith with clear instructions from higher up to discredit Hopkins.
Interesting side note, turns out that USPS OIG (Office of the Inspector General) is a completely separate entity from the more powerful USPIS (US Postal Inspection Service).
it was up this morning.
TLDR: the cops are their to quash him and seems like discredit him.
They aren't totally bad but they aren't good either, just stupid lazy federal agents.
Part that pissed me off is close to before 30m in the cops walk him to the location of where he was and left the supervisors there staring at him. Like what the fuck, you just walk a victim infront of the gang where the victim is telling the cops where their buddy/buddies just committed a federal crime?
I didn't think they were stupid nor lazy, these guys were out to destroy his testimony, they wanted to get a recant and they did, but it wasn't sufficient to destroy him because he taped the session.
The investigators definitely say some shady shit (“I am here to scare you” and “I’m here to harness the storm” which I interpret as “get control of the narrative” and the investigators imply veritas is more concerned about story exclusivity than helping the whistleblower) but all that really happens is they convince him to update his affidavit to be more factual.
For example, whistleblower says he only overheard part of a conversation that led him to believe the discussion was about backdating ballots.
In his Veritas affidavit (that veritas lawyers wrote up and he signed), it reads as if he explicitly heard them discussing backdating ballots.
So the investigators and the whistleblower make an updated statement that specified that he didn’t explicitly hear about backdating ballots, but he reached that “logical assumption” based on what he DID hear and the directions of his superiors to collect ballots for days after the election and separate them from the regular mail-stream and turn them over directly to the supervisor.
So instead of an affidavit saying “I heard them discussing criminal activity” there is now a statement that says “I heard them discussing something that led me to believe there was criminal activity”.
Idk how the mainstream media claims that he completely recanted his claims, because nowhere in the recording does he backtrack on what he ever said: “I heard some suspicious shit and assumed it was nefarious in nature” (my paraphrase)
Exactly! why would the mail supervisor ask to separate main-in ballots from regular mail streams? it is so those mail-in ballots can be given different treatment i.e backdate the delivery date.
Also there was evidence that ballots received date was earlier than ballots sent date for some sets of ballots. reason why PA started shredding the ballot envelopes to cover this up. This alone is evidence that mail sent date was tampered with.
Yes, totally agree. And the MSM says he totally recanted, yet because of the video we know he did not. And because the video is now online, the story is gone. Poof!
Without this video we would be hearing about, "that guy who lied for Trump" until hell froze over.
At 4:30, Strasser says he has full confidence in the postal worker and believes him. Then immediately offers the guy take a polygraph test just to make sure he's not lying. What a scumbag POS.
That's standard interrogation technique. Make sure the person you are asking questions trusts you. It's your job to make them speak, not to protect them.
I got angry at how easily Richard/Alex was convinced to change every. single. sentence. of his original affidavit to exactly what the interrogators wanted him to say. Why he wanted to appease them so much is lost on me. He even said that he had "studied criminal justice" in "college" and yet still didn't request a lawyer. Shouldn't Project Veritas have prepared him for this sort of encounter from the Postal IG? Richard/Alex even said that PV TOLD HIM NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT TO ANYONE UNLESS THEY VETTED THEM FOR HIM FIRST SO WHAT THE FUCK
The guy doesn't strike me as very smart to begin with and than they honey-potted him pretending to be on his side (which of course is a lie) in order to get him to agree to their changes. It's funny they were probably expecting this guy, since he went to Veritas, to be a little more informed and resistant and that's why they came in so tough in the beginning to scare him, you can even tell the exact moment where both interrogators just start laughing to each other after realizing hey this guys is a dumbass, that doesn't know shiet, and will basically agree with anything we say as long as we pretend we're trying to help him and joke about being old. For once, I just would've loved to see him resist even a little bit, it would've been funny seeing the change in tone from good cop to bad cop.
This is why you hire a lawyer who can prep you before the interview and can interject when you are digging yourself into a hole without realizing it, even very smart people can be made to look incredibly stupid in front of these professional interrogators if they are not prepared.
Exactly, he was an easy turnover(?) or whatever the term is for people like Alex. He said "okay" to them after EVERY suggestion they made; I wanted him to at least take a BREATH or ask for a freaking smoke break. I would've been pissed after the first 20 minutes of them talking in those annoying fucking circles
And here comes the damage control agency to shift the narrative. See that nice handshake icon by your name? That means you're new here, and we know you're new here.
Richard Jewell was completely blindsided and didn't have a Project Veritas to guide him. Project Veritas even warned Richard/Alex not to talk to anyone about it, yet here he is seemingly flattered by the attention the interrogators are paying him, talking his head off, and eating up their every word. Idk, he def didn't get the memo that he was going to have a bullseye on his head. Richard/Alex could have at least consulted with PV before talking to them for more than an hour or before doing something as RASH as LITERALLY CHANGING YOUR WRITTEN STATEMENT
I have to say that that interrogator is one of the smoothest talkers Ive seen. He got him to think that he was on his side right from the get go. Telling him he believes him and that he is there to help. Its crazy to listen to. Richard had no chance
"She what?! Hid your ciggerettes?!?...wow, if you did kill her I'd totally get it!"
They are there to get you to talk. The same way a car salesman sells cars, using whatever tactic will be most effective against that person.
That's why you ALWAYS need a lawyer. Because they walk in the door like "We're your friends, you can tell us anything, in fact, we brought you this rope as a gift to prove it."
TBH these guys seem MOSTLY above-board. They want to scare you a bit so you tell the truth (or of you lie they can tell you are lying), get ACTIONABLE EVIDENCE, and then take action if needed. The "I wouldn't want to get you in trouble with your landlord!" part is also an investigative technique. At that point they want him to relax so he may give up something they can actually use.
Sounds to me like they'll do follow up interviews, attempt to find the ballot he wrote the date on if possible to see the postmark, and call it a day if that's all he has.
The only time you can trust someone is there to protect you, is if you personally paid them to do that job, and even then, you should still be reasonably cautious. If someone is offering protection services for free, there is something ulterior going on.
Yeah. Even when Richard/Alex admitted that he was recording the whole thing, the Interrogator barely stuttered; the postal IG didn't give anything away on their side.
I hate to say it but this guy legitimately seems like an idiot, albeit a brave one I admit and I thank him for coming forward, but because of his bumbling we really need other co-workers to corroborate his story because no judge would really believe this guy on his own after listening to this. Even an average lawyer, let alone the high priced one's the DNC will most likely hire, could probably rip his testimony to shreds.
Jesus... Russell Strasser comes off as a total fuck right off the bat. “Ohhhh I’m sorry my place isn’t so clean, I didn’t think you’d come into this room.” - my mom when guests came over for an expected get together
Russel Strasser: “ I don’t want people looking at things—and whatnot” as he hurries Hopkins into a closed off room.
It was HBO that did the Gone with the Wind thing. I canceled Netflix around the same time though, well before "Cuties". When they started shoving BLM crap down my throat in the Android TV app, they were done.
I am about twelve minutes into this, and it is disgusting. The chuckling, giggling, grinning assholes remind me of the two Bobs from Office Space, and for good reason. Those characters were written to reflect the lying, glad-handing, trap-laying, fire-your-ass vultures whose real responsibility is to get you to consent to your own destruction.
And the reason this preamble takes so long is that the patter is part of the hypnosis. Not actual hypnosis, but breaking down the mental defenses of a person in a small room with capital A Authority.
So like I was saying it's very typical investigative / interrogation process. Could someone point me to something objectionable, and explain how it is objectionable? Maybe I'm just stupid.
Immediately after talking to him, they leaked the nature of their conversation to the press, and got him put on leave. Probably did nothing to follow up on his story.
i'm about an hour and 20 mins in (listening still) as i write this and not even 2 minutes in you can very clearly hear strasser trying to buddy up with richard (the whistleblower). they keep backing him into a corner at points and then saying they agree with his thoughts, they agree with why he thought he had to do it, etc etc. they bring up project veritas and tell richard that they're not putting down veritas but they're mostly doing it for the exclusive/selfish reasons and that they got him to set up the gofundme to take the fall if anything goes wrong.
it's funny because very early on strasser gets richard to sign that he's not being coerced in any way lol
quick addition too, at 1:22:54 strasser says exactly "All of these other entities and people out there that are quote unquote, protecting you. I'm nervous that they're self interested." while constantly reiterating that his job is to protect richard... lol
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Google should be broken up. Nobody remembers AT&T because they are bigger than ever. They made so much money selling off the baby bells and Judy bought them back years later. Nobody cared. Except me. I saw it coming. They bought all my crap. I had Cingular for a mobile carrier. They bought them. My internet and home phone. Don’t even get me started on what chase bank bought up. At least AT&T let me keep my roll over minutes.
The higher ups are sketchy, but our lowest level of officers are the ones they attack. That’s who the blue line symbolizes.
The same folks that will take your guns and help enforce the ATFs rules if Biden wins.
I'm all for LEOs and backing the blue. But at some point they need to start backing us.
Same ones who plant a pinch of weed on some high schoolers
and make damn sure to convert as many 1rst class citizens (NOT a felon ) into 2nd or 3rd class citizens with felon for life charges and no NO path to reintegrate a young person back to a 1rst class no felon citizen.
/ rant off
Lol a couple people salty and downvoting the chain..no 1 saying all cops are bad or need defunding. But we also don’t have to be blind followers of thin blue line and pretend all cops are heroes and honest. Every profession has its bad apples, this includes law enforcement—
Dont click the link. Check user history. Been only posting that link. I sus cuck
Hahaha the Left is scared and you should too. Republican wave is coming.
You will never be a woman. You will day by day slowly get more masculine. Go dilate
How are we forgetting the enforcemebt of covid shut down bs. Either support the constitution or fuck you. You're nothing more than a leftard with a badge. It's really that simple
It's big city cops. If you live in small towns or medium cities I bet your cops are based as fuck. I know a bunch. It's the brainwashed liberal shit hole cops, ordered by the liberal mayor's and city councils that are the shitheads. Our sheriff straight up said he's not enforcing lockdowns.
The first thing all cops protect is their pension.
You can't go by New York or any of the big d cities.
Why are those not real cops? Should we judge only the peaceful cops? Like Muslims? Fuck off
It's our brass and the chiefs that are appointed by the liberal mayors. I couldn't take it anymore and I handed in my retirement paperwork. I have been done since Minneapolis burned... Fuck it
The police are a necessary evil at best.
And like you say, they’ve failed to impress anyone this year.
I think they did quite well this year.
Pray-tell how sir?
Same folks that won’t do shit cause of bail reform. Same folks that will watch their precinct fuck pro’s and blow snow and not say a fucking word.
Just like many institutions and sadly our military, welfare wolves have found a way..
Are ordered to stand down, I really doubt they did so by show of hands or something. But yes, in general your sentiment is correct.
I don't know. I feel like I couldn't be (successfully) ordered to stand down while a 6 year old was being raped 10 feet away.
Everything else is just a matter of degree
The officers want to quell the riots, but they have to follow ORDERS. Orders come from people higher up. The $60,000 salary police officers are not the problem. I understand the frustration with law enforcement generally, but the lowest level is not the problem. It’s a distraction from the problem
I understand that and won’t get into it .. however. Police require little investment unlike a college degree and get pensions and get to clean up In overtime. Have u seen the reports during some of these riots? Patrol officers clocking 200-400k in some cities. I wouldn’t make them out to be underpaid, there is a lot of opportunity for them to have more than a live able salary especially after a few years
All that said I respect police like any other person. But I can still be wary and realize I must look out for myself and my best interests. We have all been lied to before from police/law
Tax payer money. Which is fine I’m not hating on them for taking the opportunity that it’s there. I pick up OT all the time when we are short But calling a cop poor- with a small initial investment (unlike tuition), short training period, decent starting salary with easy opportunity to work way up, OT out the ass, and a pension, at minimal is a little misconstrued.
Where I live it requires a college degree (and I live in the ass end of nowhere). The future police officers I went to college with were very much in the loser mindset of “C’s make degrees” (I ran into them in gen ed classes), but that’s what they were there for.
Oh yea dude I’m on your side. I love picking up OT at my job but I don’t make it my life at all. Seeing some of those numbers were wild And yes it’s dangerous at times but tbh it’s like you said.
You mean the guys that will gleefully Hand out dubious parking and speeding infractions But do fuck all when it comes to getting vagrants off our major cities streets? The guys who will cover for one another but not the public? Yeah, I need serious convincing on them...
We’ve conducted an internal investigation and found no wrong doing. Let’s not blindly worship people who have the ability to take our freedoms or life away because of a motto
I understand we need police but they do no help to themselves especially in these turbulent times
Does Donald Trump support police?
Your answer probably determines if you're on the correct site.
Nice wall of text...
Bet you call 911 when your Prius gets broken into.
Who do you think will enforce Biden’s Australia-style Covid lockdown orders? Who do you think sits back (or just abandons their post to be replaced by a true leftist fellow traveler) and watches cities burn? Who do you think funnels Trump-supporting rally goers into violent opposition and does nothing while skulls get cracked (or arrests the Trump supporters if they beat the ever living shit out of their attackers)? Who do you think let’s their jurisdiction devolve to a state where Trump supporters are being mudered on video in front of dozens of people?
But “muh rural police are based”... Go ask rural NYers how easily they were essentially disarmed and how little real support they got from police. How many Texans being forced to wear a face diaper right now? From where I sit the thin blue line right now is as thin and protective as toilet paper.
Bet you don’t call 911 when you’re getting cuffed and stuffed for violating an outdoor mask mandate because it will be an LEO doing it.
Does Trump support the police? Why so mad bro? Moar txt doesn't mean moar right...
Don't worry. The police will be there to assist if your wife's boyfriend yells at you again.
Back to REDDIT
Moar? Wouldn’t you feel more at home on reddit? They love that sort of cringe shit.
You'd be a fucking retard to willingly invite law enforcement into your life. But there are a lot of people that aren't retired at Texas Grand Ranch with mUh kImBeRs and carry permits. I know you think an overweight retiree with a concealed compact 45 can save the world one Citgo at a time but you can't. I'm willing to bet your family or friends have used police services in the past with satisfactory results. A fuckload of innocent and helpless people will be harmed without police officers and law enforcement. I know it AND DONALD TRUMP knows it. So feel free to fuck off and watch your squirrel feeder, some of us are busy helping people.
We both know if the president walked in front of your well worn recliner and asked you about police you wouldn't say a fucking word.
But instead you've done fuckall. When Kyle Rittenhouse gets out go sign up for one of his seminars.
Still haven't gotten an answer on where Donald Trump stands in regards to Law Enforcement....
Why does some libertarian fag ALWAYS have to derail the point every time law enforcement is brought up?
Shall we discuss the Jews instead?
It is verboten.
It's because the police aren't the right's or the left's friend. They're just government beatsticks dedicated to enforcing BS rules (taking our guns?) by those with more political power than you. On top of that it's an after-college frat house for some of the least intelligent and most aggressive members of our society (violent criminals being the other ones). Anyone ever stop to consider how they're two sides of the same coin?
There are legal precedent where scoring too well on their tests, proving that you're too smart to follow the most questionable orders, is enough to get you barred from being a police officer. They want the dumbest brutes around that won't question their laws. When was the last time police stopped a violent crime near you, located your stolen goods, or even assisted you in defending yourself? Or do you only see them when their giving you a speeding ticket to help meet the city's budget needs? How about when they're lying to you to trick you into giving away your legal rights in order to make their jobs easier?
The only people that become police are those with a power fetish or those who want to do good, but are too stupid to realize that becoming a police officer is the worst possible way to try and do it.
Police should have checks and balances just like all the other parts of our government. Right now we as people have no way to prevent police from abusing their power other than to hope that we can afford to take it to court and that it's a big enough deal to do so.
You completely miss the point of law enforcement. You're only proving why most Libertarians and Antifa are now 2 sides of the same coin.
Weird. I had an argument with facts and logic, you had what? Name calling?
Who's most like antifa again?
It doesn't matter what their purpose is, it matters how they're being used. And they're being used to take away your rights.
No. And let's cut to the fundamental differences here.
In order for our society to thrive, it must have a show of force present for law and order. I assume you don't believe this.
Agreed, but the show of force needs civilian oversight.
Police Department, with "internal issues" overseen by rotating board of citizens.
President has congress, Police have unlimited rights, untouchable pensions and slush funds?
Sorry, but it's time to fix up your Old Boy's Club. Frat life ends in college and it's time police are held accountable by the people they control in a mutual relationship.
Ooh, you touch my tra-la-la. Mmmm, my
And F--- the lawless element that intends to destroy this nation.
Good read, though the tl;dr of it is that the agent used very obvious and overt techniques to get Hopkins to doubt himself by psychologically manipulating him the entire time.
That's what I picked up on right away the moment he started "laying out the conversation" before it had even begun. Old as dirt control tactic.
The moment he said the word 'exaggeration' I would have stopped the conversation and asked him to leave. Because it only goes downhill from there.
All of the tactics he used are very standard psychological manipulation tactics. The kind of thing you’d learn in the first week or month. Any time someone promises you from the outset that above all else they’re going to be honest about everything they do with you, and they press that point repeatedly, they’re lying. Honest people just speak their mind, which is why people trust Trump. They don’t make a speech trying to convince you of their honesty. If it was true they wouldn’t need the sales pitch. It’s not like you aren’t already in the room talking to them. Honesty is the default assumption. You only cement that if you’re about to veer outside of it in startling ways.
He also said he was going to stress him out because that will make his memory clearer. It will actually do the opposite. It’s why so many people say they don’t ‘test well’. It’s very easy to fuck with people’s memories and implant false ones. I have some false memories from times I’ve been in an accident and was passed out while it occurred. I was told the story of what happened and had to tell it so many times that I remember it as if I was not passed out. You can implant memories and alter them if you bring someone’s guard down. The agent is quite literally trying to shred the evidence in Hopkins’ brain up so there will be nothing to show in court. He even went doublethink on it by telling Hopkins that he’s not going to scare him but is going to scare him. I think the left got the wrong message from 1984.
The part where he said he couldn’t let him leave was one of the worst. He made it seem like he would be harassed if he left and wouldn’t let him talk to people when he left. It’s what domestic abusers do to their significant others. Make it seem like everyone else hates you and make them ask for their permission to do things when really you can do whatever the fuck you want in that situation within the bounds of the law.
Very good assessment. I do think he's very good at his line of work and to me it's doubtful that he is simply an USPS IG. I would be interested to see more about his background. Wouldn't be surprised if he's ex-military and/or a spook of some sort.
He says in the interview that he is Military intelligence.
Yes, Air Force and he is also a does lie detector tests.
This is why being assertive and confident is important. If you’re not, you leave yourself open to being taken advantage of.
I think you could have been as assertive and confident as you wanted, they would still tear into you. Just happy he was wearing a mic. Way to go PV!!!
I would ask him to leave as soon as he introduces his ass to me. F U.. here's my 5th.
That's what I was saying in another thread. He spent a half hour actually collecting details and the rest of the time getting him to fine tune the affidavit to say he never heard of any backdating postmarks.
He starts out how he believes him fully. How he wants to help him protect his interests. Then proceeds to demonstrate he doesn't believe a crime happen and works to protect the political interests.
I like the sly way he'd insert himself into compliments to Richard. How he'd praise him for his military service and then seque into how he served as well. How as military men they understand the value of integrity.
It's all done to get Richard to trust him and let him be guided into weakening the claim.
Good anaylsis, but he does make one mistake.
The agents did not enter with any presupposed conclusion; the truth was a complete aside. They only cared to walk away from the interview having minimized the legal impact of the affidavit to a point of non relevancy.
They achieved that through sowing doubt, because that was the path of least resistance, not because that was their predestined assumption. The first part of the interview pokes and prods looking for the optimal avenue to the end and doubt was where they went. But they'd have been as happy with a lie, or it being audibly impossible, or having gotten the dates wrong, or Hopkins coming of as a lunatic without all his marbles.
Happily because there is a recording of the session/interrogation Hopkins will be ok as will his statement.
Without that tape he would be being flayed alive on the MSM right now. Instead because of the tape, crickets.
Yes, the sole objective was to get him to invalidate his statement. That is the sole reason they were there
This is a great read, long, but great.
If a communist catches you don't talk even with a lawyer
If a communist catches you then better go down fighting. Take out two of them first.
Break teeth in case of emergency
Men don’t be afraid to kick/knee/punch/stab another man in the balls
ESPECIALLY ONES THAT RUN ANTI-TRUMP BURNER ACCOUNTS: https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1326666863972126720
Guy straight up said he wasn't with the feds - acted almost as if he were this guy's representation on behalf of the Postal Service - "hey buddy, I'm on your side and want to help you get this story rock solid so no one can chip away at it". The proceeds as if he's am FBI agent.
I found more specific irregularities in the Edison Data showing Trump wins PA and I need help verifying the data!
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8XO1jLE/help-me-get-attention-on-this-re/
Well done, patriot
Thanks. I don't know what I'm sitting on but it smells fishy af and I need more eyes on it. If verified we need to submit to Rudy etc
That’s what she said
I have no problem with you hijacking top posts for visibility. It NEEDS visibility. And, we need to be nimble!
That "I'm going to twist you a little bit" line should be something we never let them forget.
Time stamp?
36:30
Sorry; I saw it in yesterday's abridged version. When I watch the full version, I'll add it.
And "I am not scaring you. But I am scaring you." at 45:40
At 1:00:12 he calls him "Alec" instead of "Alex", which is his common name. The interrogator kept trying to be his friend, and yet couldn't get his name right.
I think that was all part of creating a superior/inferior relationship. You are so far below me I can't even remember your name BS.
Possibly but almost exactly an hour later he says "Alec" again but quickly corrects it to "Alex".
Still think he was messin' with him.
I had a coworker who used to always mispronounce the names of lower rank people, never higher ones.
I would be like "You're going to twist me? LMAO".
“Shall I unzip now or are we going to work our way up to that?”
Made me laugh out loud
"E-yah, twist
Baby, baby, twist
Ooh yeah, just like this
Come on, little miss, and do the twist"
Should we twist again? Like we did last summer?
These peoples mission should be to find out what the facts are. In that attempt, go ahead and twist someone a little bit. You can not just count on liars to suddenly become truth tellers just because an investigator is asking them a question. Psychological pressure is an effective tool in getting the truth out. An investigators job is not to protect the whistleblower or to be nice to him. He has to get to the truth.
Yep, right up there with "I am going to scare you..." "To help you." GAAAAAH.
Imagine if they spent the same amount of effort on Hunter Biden.
Smh
I'm sure any agents wanting to investigate Hunter got the same multi hour session followed by a dismissal.
I do not recall.
I listened to the whole thing. Hopkins recorded it on his phone. He actually tells them at the end that he's recording them. They tell him they have to get permission for him to have the recording, but soon after the recording ends.
He definitely did not "retract". They asked him to clarify that he didn't hear anyone actually say they are "back dating ballots". Instead, he heard certain words and saw certain actions, by various people, that were not normal practice and led him to infer that they might be back dating ballots.
It's inconclusive, and doesn't change the fact that it needs to be investigated further. I would argue that the investigators might actually be interested in finding the truth, even if it's true that ballots were back dated, but they needed to know exactly how much Hopkins knows, and who else they would have to talk to in order to find out what happened. From the way they are speaking about "back dating," it sounds like they consider it a serious crime.
Yeah, funny he gives a non-committal answer when federal agents are attempting to intimidate him.
I'm fucking shocked.
He is a Marine, also Army. Spent two tours in Afghanistan, one in Iraq. When they heard that I am guessing they realized he would be a hard nut to crack. And although he said, he could have misinterpreted, he NEVER said he did not hear what was in his sworn testimony.
I also listened to the whole thing. I was surprised that the interrogators seemed less bad than I expected, despite how disgusting they were. They basically got him to specify that he didn’t actually hear the word backdating, but that his logical conclusion (assumption) from all the different things he saw was that there was backdating. They didn’t get him to retract anything from what I could tell. They actually added some extra suspicious things to the affidavit that I would imagine would help. For example, they were specifically told to separate out the late ballots instead of sending them in the normal mail stream where he said they would be postmarked with the correct day, putting them at risk of a changed post mark date.
But still it was very creepy to listen to. Especially the first half. I wonder if they are used to interviewing people who are liars and were too heavy handed with this guy who is a good person telling the truth.
I disagree and argue that it’s worse than I expected precisely because of the fake niceness of it. Hopkins is clearly being manipulated in a progressive and intentional fashion. At a certain point he was being given orders. They acted like he needed their permission to take a break and prevented him from speaking to others during that break. This is psychological abuse.
He’d actually have been better off if the guy was overtly mean and not covertly mean. He probably kept a cheery tone in part to guard against accusations of the obvious coercion. “I abused him with a smile on my face! It wasn’t coercion.”
Agreed, they focused toward the end on how his superiors had asked for all ballots to be separated from other mail even after election day. He did not go to work the 4tg, so 5th and 6th he was still being asked to do that. Perhaps there's a legitimate reason, but that definitely needs to be looked it. Hopkins says that if they just put the ballots with the "raw" (regular stream of mail), they will be postmarked along with normal mail and sent along to Pittsburgh.
One thing that seemed really weird to me was they didn’t seem to freak out that he was recording them, but they said they would need to request permission from their bosses if he could keep the recording, and they asked if he would prefer to keep the recorder on in the room while he went on a smoke break. I worried they would have deleted it if he had left it with them. Also the interviewer asked if it was his phone used for recording, I bet because he was concerned it was being backed up to the cloud. So it seems like they were trying to limit his control over the recording.
These guys are professionals, I think they were alarmed he was recording them but there is no way they would show it. Dollars to donuts they had video and audio set up in the room they took him into.
That huge effort to make it seem that they didn't think he was coming, how the other room was messy, etc. All designed to discourage any thought that he was being videotaped IMO.
I laughed when they asked if he would like to leave the phone with them, what bastards.
The one lie everyone should practice, or make it true whenever possible, is the answer to "are you recording this?" should always be "livestreaming, actually". You are being recorded 24/7. That data has no chance of ever going away, being in dozens of hands the moment it is recorded. Make sure the same can be said of anyone acting against you.
It was enough for fake news to say nothing happened here, and the normies were put back into a straight line.
It's crazy that they aren't accepting his eyewitness testimony as the truth but are just assuming he's lying. They aren't digging for truth, they are digging for dirt. And they do it in a "hey we're all friends here don't worry" kinda way. Bastards.
they're trying to cover for their employer/company, they don't give a single f'ck about this guy's well being or the truth. they're trying to de legitimize and weaken the wording of his claims and they did just that, i doubt any judge is going to believe anything he says from now on as credible.
Of course if he can inspire other colleagues to also go on the record about what they've heard, preferably one's who appear to be much more credible than himself, than that is something that can definitely make an impact.
Not for dirt, but to destroy his statement, they wanted to get him to recant his testimony.
Their voices became genuinely sad when he said he had immediately told others, two others. That means he has witnesses, two of them.They sounded like two kids who thought they were having pudding and found out it was squash instead :)
I just got done listening to every word of it. I feel like, fundamentally, the core truth of what he overheard and reported still came through loud and clear. He heard a conversation about backdating ballots. It shocked him. He confronted the people in that conversation. They turned away. Then he reported what he heard, all in the context of the strange directive to keep picking up and segregating ballots. He did not "retract" any of those core statements. This is all good stuff that will be useful for other lawyers and investigators on the Trump team.
It will be epic if Trump team hired a private investigator covertly from a distance monitoring the election centre building for midnight/early hours of morning new ballot deliveries and taking pics and videos.
Yes, and the fact he recorded it takes it from being hey the guy recanted to hey listen to this video!!!
Yeah, I got the same thing.
I mean, I wasn't there and didn't see what happened, nor do I know the normal behavior of the post office, but clearly he KNOWS something wasnt right even though he's having trouble elaborating.
Like, they may have been talking in hushed tones, thought they were alone and were startled when they saw him. Things like that are hard to explain but if you experience them it would be easy to go "...Something is fucked...what the hell is going on?!"
Appreciate this patriot but this dumb fuck should have known better to not have a lawyer present. Sheesh
If you've done nothing wrong, you don't assume you need a lawyer, but you do.
You have the RIGHT to remain silent, use it. Cops i know have always told me, whether you've done something wrong or not, don't say a word without a lawyer
Yeah the guy was acting like he was buddies with them and was aware of their techniques. They were laughing at him and played him so bad. I can’t believe he even told them he recorded them. The guy was so upfront that they really couldn’t say much to that
Exactly
Definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.
The guy is a former soldier, wants to become a cop and is currently a mailman. He is an honest, sincere person with a clear respect for authority, believes in a chain of command, wants to do the right thing and stepped up when the moment came.
He is what is often called the salt of the earth. I have a lot of respect for him.
More like an honest guy, freaked out because of what he had heard and concerned as to what it might mean, freaked out that Project Veritas agreed with him as to the seriousness, freaked out that he had just been laid off, freaked out that he had to go through an interview.
A lot of people would have been on the verge of a stroke, he held up.
Okay :)
Im curious what the context of getting him there. This might have been like a "disciplinary hearing" or some bullshit where he might not have thought he needed one.
The line of questioning of: Do you have a lawyer? Project Veritas says they have lawyers on retainer for you but no one has assigned a lawyer to you yet? Because if they did I would make every reasonable effort possible to get them here, but since they haven't I'm going to assume you are good with proceeding, correct?
Should have tipped him off. Whenever you hear something like that, I don't care if it's kangaroo court at a daycare, you stop and say "you know what, on second thought, thanks for reminding me... I'm going to take some time to contact a lawyer and we can proceed when he gets here."
Yep, good advice.
Only because he got them on tape, only because he had PV at his back did this not become his crash and burn interview.
I think he thought it was a mandatory HR interview, then he thought they might be from the senior PO HR. Then once he was in there and had no real idea what the hell it was for, he stayed.
Now was that smart, maybe not. But he taped it, THAT was smart.
DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE: https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
This whole situation is so FUBAR. What a way to treat a veteran 😞 Hope these crooks get what they deserve.
FYI This federal agent ran an anti-trump burner account: https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1326666863972126720
Maybe not but he was using an alias.
They were set up. I love O'Keefe.
More like he was a target and they wanted to destroy his testimony; but instead their tactics made them the target, not him nor O'Keefe.
Damn glowfolk messing with my frens...
Here is one Lawyer’s take on the interview: https://twitter.com/mcadoogordon/status/1326655155207540739?s=21
Very long but very good thread. Goes to show how the OIG investigators acted in extremely bad faith with clear instructions from higher up to discredit Hopkins.
Interesting side note, turns out that USPS OIG (Office of the Inspector General) is a completely separate entity from the more powerful USPIS (US Postal Inspection Service).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service_Office_of_Inspector_General https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Inspection_Service
Interesting, whoever sent them may have used a separate agency so they could have cover for their actions from the UPS top brass.
TLDR?
it's 2 hours long and he uploaded it 8 mins ago.
DEBUNKED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo&ab_channel=wintermoot
What is debunked??
Just mocking libs always saying everything is debunked when it's not my bro.
it was up this morning.
TLDR: the cops are their to quash him and seems like discredit him. They aren't totally bad but they aren't good either, just stupid lazy federal agents.
Part that pissed me off is close to before 30m in the cops walk him to the location of where he was and left the supervisors there staring at him. Like what the fuck, you just walk a victim infront of the gang where the victim is telling the cops where their buddy/buddies just committed a federal crime?
Thank you, and wow that sounds fucked.
I didn't think they were stupid nor lazy, these guys were out to destroy his testimony, they wanted to get a recant and they did, but it wasn't sufficient to destroy him because he taped the session.
I watched it earlier before YouTube crashed
The investigators definitely say some shady shit (“I am here to scare you” and “I’m here to harness the storm” which I interpret as “get control of the narrative” and the investigators imply veritas is more concerned about story exclusivity than helping the whistleblower) but all that really happens is they convince him to update his affidavit to be more factual.
For example, whistleblower says he only overheard part of a conversation that led him to believe the discussion was about backdating ballots.
In his Veritas affidavit (that veritas lawyers wrote up and he signed), it reads as if he explicitly heard them discussing backdating ballots.
So the investigators and the whistleblower make an updated statement that specified that he didn’t explicitly hear about backdating ballots, but he reached that “logical assumption” based on what he DID hear and the directions of his superiors to collect ballots for days after the election and separate them from the regular mail-stream and turn them over directly to the supervisor.
So instead of an affidavit saying “I heard them discussing criminal activity” there is now a statement that says “I heard them discussing something that led me to believe there was criminal activity”.
Idk how the mainstream media claims that he completely recanted his claims, because nowhere in the recording does he backtrack on what he ever said: “I heard some suspicious shit and assumed it was nefarious in nature” (my paraphrase)
Exactly! why would the mail supervisor ask to separate main-in ballots from regular mail streams? it is so those mail-in ballots can be given different treatment i.e backdate the delivery date.
Also there was evidence that ballots received date was earlier than ballots sent date for some sets of ballots. reason why PA started shredding the ballot envelopes to cover this up. This alone is evidence that mail sent date was tampered with.
Yes and notice how concerned they were about tracking the one ballot he marked. They wanted to find it and destroy it is my guess.
He shouldn't have told them about it, but done is done.
Yes, totally agree. And the MSM says he totally recanted, yet because of the video we know he did not. And because the video is now online, the story is gone. Poof!
Without this video we would be hearing about, "that guy who lied for Trump" until hell froze over.
1 PeePee touch for some free yogurt?
And the leftist cucks say we won't win. LOL
You know here we were all worried about the FBI, the IRS, the NSA, when the real terror is the USPS Federal Agent.
At 4:30, Strasser says he has full confidence in the postal worker and believes him. Then immediately offers the guy take a polygraph test just to make sure he's not lying. What a scumbag POS.
That's standard interrogation technique. Make sure the person you are asking questions trusts you. It's your job to make them speak, not to protect them.
I got angry at how easily Richard/Alex was convinced to change every. single. sentence. of his original affidavit to exactly what the interrogators wanted him to say. Why he wanted to appease them so much is lost on me. He even said that he had "studied criminal justice" in "college" and yet still didn't request a lawyer. Shouldn't Project Veritas have prepared him for this sort of encounter from the Postal IG? Richard/Alex even said that PV TOLD HIM NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT TO ANYONE UNLESS THEY VETTED THEM FOR HIM FIRST SO WHAT THE FUCK
The guy doesn't strike me as very smart to begin with and than they honey-potted him pretending to be on his side (which of course is a lie) in order to get him to agree to their changes. It's funny they were probably expecting this guy, since he went to Veritas, to be a little more informed and resistant and that's why they came in so tough in the beginning to scare him, you can even tell the exact moment where both interrogators just start laughing to each other after realizing hey this guys is a dumbass, that doesn't know shiet, and will basically agree with anything we say as long as we pretend we're trying to help him and joke about being old. For once, I just would've loved to see him resist even a little bit, it would've been funny seeing the change in tone from good cop to bad cop.
This is why you hire a lawyer who can prep you before the interview and can interject when you are digging yourself into a hole without realizing it, even very smart people can be made to look incredibly stupid in front of these professional interrogators if they are not prepared.
Exactly, he was an easy turnover(?) or whatever the term is for people like Alex. He said "okay" to them after EVERY suggestion they made; I wanted him to at least take a BREATH or ask for a freaking smoke break. I would've been pissed after the first 20 minutes of them talking in those annoying fucking circles
And here comes the damage control agency to shift the narrative. See that nice handshake icon by your name? That means you're new here, and we know you're new here.
Watch Richard Jewell.
Alex the agents were on the same side as him. That they were good guys just trying to do the right thing like himself.
Richard Jewell was completely blindsided and didn't have a Project Veritas to guide him. Project Veritas even warned Richard/Alex not to talk to anyone about it, yet here he is seemingly flattered by the attention the interrogators are paying him, talking his head off, and eating up their every word. Idk, he def didn't get the memo that he was going to have a bullseye on his head. Richard/Alex could have at least consulted with PV before talking to them for more than an hour or before doing something as RASH as LITERALLY CHANGING YOUR WRITTEN STATEMENT
I have to say that that interrogator is one of the smoothest talkers Ive seen. He got him to think that he was on his side right from the get go. Telling him he believes him and that he is there to help. Its crazy to listen to. Richard had no chance
That's literally their job.
"She what?! Hid your ciggerettes?!?...wow, if you did kill her I'd totally get it!"
They are there to get you to talk. The same way a car salesman sells cars, using whatever tactic will be most effective against that person.
That's why you ALWAYS need a lawyer. Because they walk in the door like "We're your friends, you can tell us anything, in fact, we brought you this rope as a gift to prove it."
TBH these guys seem MOSTLY above-board. They want to scare you a bit so you tell the truth (or of you lie they can tell you are lying), get ACTIONABLE EVIDENCE, and then take action if needed. The "I wouldn't want to get you in trouble with your landlord!" part is also an investigative technique. At that point they want him to relax so he may give up something they can actually use.
Sounds to me like they'll do follow up interviews, attempt to find the ballot he wrote the date on if possible to see the postmark, and call it a day if that's all he has.
That is the biggest red flag of them all...I'm here to protect you.
The only time you can trust someone is there to protect you, is if you personally paid them to do that job, and even then, you should still be reasonably cautious. If someone is offering protection services for free, there is something ulterior going on.
Yeah. Even when Richard/Alex admitted that he was recording the whole thing, the Interrogator barely stuttered; the postal IG didn't give anything away on their side.
I hate to say it but this guy legitimately seems like an idiot, albeit a brave one I admit and I thank him for coming forward, but because of his bumbling we really need other co-workers to corroborate his story because no judge would really believe this guy on his own after listening to this. Even an average lawyer, let alone the high priced one's the DNC will most likely hire, could probably rip his testimony to shreds.
It's kind of sad because he's a sweet guy and an honest guy but these folks are able to talk and walk all over him.
Jesus... Russell Strasser comes off as a total fuck right off the bat. “Ohhhh I’m sorry my place isn’t so clean, I didn’t think you’d come into this room.” - my mom when guests came over for an expected get together
Russel Strasser: “ I don’t want people looking at things—and whatnot” as he hurries Hopkins into a closed off room.
Fuck this guy and fuck whoever sent this IG. .
Thank God for James!!
The feds were total scammers. Manipulated him, and the slandered him in leaks to the press
Oh Boy!
Damm was just about to watch Gone with the wind on netfilx. :(
Fuck Netflix.
I know, Netflix canceled Gone with the wind because it hurts feelings. I canceled Netflix over cuties. Should used a /s my bad...
It was HBO that did the Gone with the Wind thing. I canceled Netflix around the same time though, well before "Cuties". When they started shoving BLM crap down my throat in the Android TV app, they were done.
No, I get it, but fuck Netflix.
Scarlett O'Hara is responsible for multiple generations of entitled bitches
The swamp tried to break him. Fortunately, he didn’t back down!
10 seconds after Russel Strasser starts talking, you already know he's full of shit.
what doucebags. 48:30ish he asked to take a smoke break. They made him promise to not talk to anybody or call anyone.
yeah to most people that would have been a red flag that maybe these guys may not be on my side
Richard Hopkins did not kill himself
ready to listen to the full thing tomorrow but I love how they opened up talking about how they don't give a shit about masks
“You do rebellious thing? We do rebellious thing too! Trust us!”
I am about twelve minutes into this, and it is disgusting. The chuckling, giggling, grinning assholes remind me of the two Bobs from Office Space, and for good reason. Those characters were written to reflect the lying, glad-handing, trap-laying, fire-your-ass vultures whose real responsibility is to get you to consent to your own destruction.
And the reason this preamble takes so long is that the patter is part of the hypnosis. Not actual hypnosis, but breaking down the mental defenses of a person in a small room with capital A Authority.
More to follow.
This guy Rus is a huge fucking shiester.
"I don't have time to watch it. I don't see any evidence." switches focus to CNN
Never talk to the police (interrogator) https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
So like I was saying it's very typical investigative / interrogation process. Could someone point me to something objectionable, and explain how it is objectionable? Maybe I'm just stupid.
Immediately after talking to him, they leaked the nature of their conversation to the press, and got him put on leave. Probably did nothing to follow up on his story.
Richard Jewell
Those seditious bastards are coercing the Patriot with mind bending, ridiculous, bullshit. Burn in hell you treasonous bastards.
So sad that the media, keeps reporting he retracted this when he doesn't
Strasser for prison 2020
No one ever expects the Postal Inquisition...
I don't have 2 hours. What did this dude say?
i'm about an hour and 20 mins in (listening still) as i write this and not even 2 minutes in you can very clearly hear strasser trying to buddy up with richard (the whistleblower). they keep backing him into a corner at points and then saying they agree with his thoughts, they agree with why he thought he had to do it, etc etc. they bring up project veritas and tell richard that they're not putting down veritas but they're mostly doing it for the exclusive/selfish reasons and that they got him to set up the gofundme to take the fall if anything goes wrong.
it's funny because very early on strasser gets richard to sign that he's not being coerced in any way lol
quick addition too, at 1:22:54 strasser says exactly "All of these other entities and people out there that are quote unquote, protecting you. I'm nervous that they're self interested." while constantly reiterating that his job is to protect richard... lol
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Dang, for some reason the upload keeps failing. It gets to roughly~50% in then an error occurs that removes the video from totally uploading. Regardless, I have the video.
Google should be broken up. Nobody remembers AT&T because they are bigger than ever. They made so much money selling off the baby bells and Judy bought them back years later. Nobody cared. Except me. I saw it coming. They bought all my crap. I had Cingular for a mobile carrier. They bought them. My internet and home phone. Don’t even get me started on what chase bank bought up. At least AT&T let me keep my roll over minutes.
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Can we convert the audio in the video to text?
I'd like to look at the transcript of this.
Dirty cops.
Anyone else think he is trying to use hypnosis?
Hmmm. I still haven’t gotten a notification from yt that this has been posted. Weird. I’m shocked! (I’m not)
Fucking communists. PRISON sentences please.