Thanks! I’m not a mathematician so I’m honestly still kind of lost. Can I ask you a simple question that even I can understand the answer to: is Shiva right or wrong?
It depends on how he is linking the axis I think, I believe his is implying a straight line of 0% along the y axis would represent the 100% of the %Republican on the x axis also voting Trump. If 10% of the Republican % population (x axis) chose not to vote Trump then it would show as a straight line in the negative at -10%. The criticism comes in because he does a poor job of explaining that the main x axis is not the one linked to the Y. User Supercharger argues that if there are only 1% republicans in a precinct then trumps % can't be less that -1%... however I believe Shiva is arguing that Trump lost 10% of that 1% and that's what his graph is showing.
Thanks! Now I can understand where the difference in opinion is. It appears that OP is confused as to the nuance of the exact argument that Shiva is making? (OP said something like “Shiva’s arguing that we should expect to see a horizontal line, and since the line slopes downward, Shiva is claiming that that downward-ness proves that the election is fraudulent”). But you’re assertion is that Shiva’s argument is subtly different to that, right?
Thanks! I’m not a mathematician so I’m honestly still kind of lost. Can I ask you a simple question that even I can understand the answer to: is Shiva right or wrong?
It depends on how he is linking the axis I think, I believe his is implying a straight line of 0% along the y axis would represent the 100% of the %Republican on the x axis also voting Trump. If 10% of the Republican % population (x axis) chose not to vote Trump then it would show as a straight line in the negative at -10%. The criticism comes in because he does a poor job of explaining that the main x axis is not the one linked to the Y. User Supercharger argues that if there are only 1% republicans in a precinct then trumps % can't be less that -1%... however I believe Shiva is arguing that Trump lost 10% of that 1% and that's what his graph is showing.
Thanks! Now I can understand where the difference in opinion is. It appears that OP is confused as to the nuance of the exact argument that Shiva is making? (OP said something like “Shiva’s arguing that we should expect to see a horizontal line, and since the line slopes downward, Shiva is claiming that that downward-ness proves that the election is fraudulent”). But you’re assertion is that Shiva’s argument is subtly different to that, right?
I think in trying to make the graph easy to read he has opened up doors for valid criticism.
Ah, that’s a pity. I wonder if he’s going to address this criticism.