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posted ago by ILickStones-InFours ago by ILickStones-InFours +216 / -0

Trump won:

Essex County, Vermont

Hidalgo County, New Mexico

Juneau County, Wisconsin

Ottawa County, Ohio

Sawyer County, Wisconsin

Valencia County, New Mexico

Vigo County, Indiana

Washington County, Maine

Westmoreland County, Virginia

Wood County, Ohio

Calhoun County, South Carolina

Colleton County, South Carolina

Coös County, New Hampshire

Northampton County, Pennsylvania

Sargent County, North Dakota

Val Verde County, Texas

Most of these places are wrong at one time or another scattered throughout the last 100 years, never all at once.

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blindfold 4 points ago +4 / -0

The chances that these specific 16 counties were wrong? Slim.

The chances that any 16 or more bellwether counties were wrong? Much higher.

With large data sets you can always find patterns that fit the data, but that doesn't mean that those patterns drive the data or will predict the future.

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ILickStones-InFours [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

16 out of 24 from what I can see. Not a huge dataset.

Also, very irregular that all would be wrong at once, that’s the point.

Finally, who’s to say there wasn’t also fuckery in the other 8?

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blindfold 1 point ago +1 / -0

The data set is all counties that have voted in the presidential election over the last century.

Intuitively, since elections are roughly a 50/50 split I'd expect any set of 24 random counties to have on average 12 who voted in each direction. Bellwether status isn't some intrinsic property of a county.

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ILickStones-InFours [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I get what you’re trying to say...

I disagree with how you shluff off bellwethers to quickly, I don’t think you understand my point.

Also, quick fact: In 2016 Trump won 2,626 counties and Hilldog won 487.

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thunderpussy 2 points ago +2 / -0

The country has been slowly transformed....

Even so, not very likely.......

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weltbild 1 point ago +1 / -0

irregularities found in those that didn't lose bellweather status like delware county