Anybody else find it strange that in every questionable State, there are so few votes separating Trump and Biden? What are the chances that Biden got juuuuust enough votes?
And if they want to argue that that's just because Republicans hate Trump, they'd have to explain away why 2018 sucked for Rs, why Trump had record R turnout just to rubber stamp him to run for a second term in this years primary, and why Trump consistently has 90%+ approval among Republicans. There's no case to be made that Republicans rejected Trump.
People need to stop with the bullshit about "everybody just hates Trump" Im so sick and tired of it 73 MILLION Americans voted for him despite for 4 years the media trying to brainwashing people into hating him. With legal votes he would have like 80 million and if media supported him like they do obama or biden then he be at like 150 million voters
if the votes are only for biden without any mark on the senate or house it meas those were pre-made votes they couldnt mark before cause they knew they would need to move them to whenever state they need them
I'm guessing all these pre-marked for Biden ballots were intended to have the rest of the contests marked if the ballots ended up being "needed", but then the Dem operatives and their foot soldiers got pressed for time or lazy, and just submitted a bunch with "votes" only for Biden. A way to find evidence to back this assertion is court, would be to look for ballots on which the vote for Biden was marked with a different ink and/or marked in a different way (e.g. carefully filled in circle vs. sloppily filled in).
I've had this thought too. I wish we could examine these ballots, because wouldn't they at least have the correct races printed on them?
I'm thinking they had groups of ballot harvesters with blank ballots at the ready, and they jumped through their ass to fill out the president only on these. Also, probably why the duffel bags of ballots showed up so late. There was definitely some coordination going on.. man I hope they nail these fuckers.
Nope just barely. Two big metro areas in AZ are Phoenix in Maricopa county (~6 mil) and Tucson in Pima county (~1 mil). Tucson is deep blue. Phoenix leans red then some Democrats (Fontes the recorder and Katie Hobbs the SoS) got elected and magically the county turns blue and the Senate seats flipped blue wow
It does have recounts but it has to be very close. Something like 500 votes I think? Might well get there tbh. And there are also a lot of not-recorded votes from people given sharpies that if counted will prob tip it.
or within 200 votes, the lesser of the two, so they would only get a recount if it was 200 votes or less. They have to take it to court to get a recount/audit.
Rudy G says individual counties may order recounts. That is to say Maricopa could order a re-canvass and re-count all its own, and not require the State of AZ to mandate one. Narrow State re-count limits do not necessarily apply.
I don't think you have the details of the law right. It's below 0.1% for a right to a recount. If there's also a 200 vote provision, that would be if the margin was higher than 0.1% but still less than 200 votes.
I thought that rule was just for your own stuff? I've seen tons of requests for fundraising for other people - I mean there was a whole thread to [email protected] for maidengate
No, it's for everything, presumably excepting the Trump campaign itself, and anything the moderators make an explicit exception for.
There have been a whole lot of sketchy fundraisers posted here, not least of which was attorney John Pierce's fundraiser "for Kyle Rittenhouse", except if you looked at the actual language on the site the link led to, there was no promise at all that it would be used exclusively for Kyle, and basically could be used to pay Pierce himself (and Lin Wood and a few others on the "board") for doing anything they thought was worthwhile. And Pierce has an extremely sketchy history, changing the legal name of his law firm over and over again to create new entities, to conceal the fact that the previous ones are up to their necks in bad debt and being sued by former partners and by businesses that provided financing to the firms. People kept posting links to it over and over and over again, and the mods deported every single one that was reported to them.
Eventually Pierce was forced to resign from the board of this "foundation" he and his pals set up, but Lin Wood is still running it, and Pierce is still running around claiming to be Kyle's "lead attorney" (he is absolutely not -- an attorney named Mark Richards is representing Kyle in his criminal case in Wisconsin). And there's still nothing in the language of the foundation to prohibit Pierce getting paid for all the hours he spends travelling and promoting himself to the media while claiming to be leading a "team" of attorneys repreenting Kyle.
People think they "know" somebody is legit, and when a fundraiser gets posted here using the person's name, people rush to donate their hard-earned money. Just donate to the Trump campaign. It's not like they won't be spending the money on the legal challenges to the election results. If any other person or group is doing genuinely valuable work towards this effort, the Trump campaign will be happy to pay them.
I hope the mods themselves are making any posts that promote a fundraiser they have approved. Otherwise, nobody is going to know whether a fundraising post is or isn't approved.
Any state or any place can have a recount if voter fraud can be demonstrated. You’re thinking about a vote that is close WITHOUT fraud. Different things.
They do have recounts. Can be order by state legislature, state elections commission, or requested by campaign but if not in the threshold of automatic the campaign usually has to foot the bill.
It will be recounted whether it be hand recounts plus an audit we don’t know
Maricopa county should be the focus. It’s not getting enough scrutiny. Somehow Biden got more votes than Clinton in 2016 in Maricopa county. He is up by almost 400k votes alone in this county which is traditionally republican.
Trump beat Clinton in 2016 by around 40k in Maricopa county.
The amount of people voting appears to be too high as well.
There are dozens of affidavits and videotape evidence of Philadelphia illegally stopping GOP observers from watching the ballot count. PA election law requires counties, even corrupt counties like Philadelphia, to have count observers. Fraud has already been exposed. These corrupt votes must not be counted per Title 25
§ 3146.8.
Right now off of just pure votes its a lost cause. He need 11k votes to close the gap and there are 23k votes left to count. On the other hand it is the closest gap of any state so there is hope there.
Sharpie looks like a nothingburger. Supposedly the new machines are immune from bleed in so sharpies were actually the preferred tool to fill them out, or so they say. Thing is the AZ votes arent showing up in the system still. AZ said might take up to 3 weeks to show up but that makes no sense.
Thats not how the math works. He needs 75% of the remaining votes to make it up. Remember Biden also gains votes off of the remaining so if it was 45% like you said the gap would only grow. 75% is not impossible but very unlikely with the way its been going. Now if he can get votes disqualified or an audit reveals heavy fraud or error its very likely he can still get AZ. We can only hope.
Just for automatic recount. There will be a recount not sure about audit. The gop state legislature will have to request it before certifying. I think there are a few other ways also.
The problem I hsve eith Wisconsin rdcountvjs it appears so far they are just going to run them through the same machines, with no audit no hand recounts
We all know that when states start flipping red, Russian interference will be back on the menu. Guaranteed. Guaranteed.
Why wasn't Russia talked about leading up to Nov 3? No one will have an answer to that question. But the MSM will immediately switch to Russia once POTUS begins rightfully claiming states.
Assuming Trump gets Georgia back... 14,000 votes via hand recount - (tossing illegal votes - etc) and this is a pretty big ask ...
He only needs Pennsylvania and Nevada -or- Arizona.... to hit 270.
So Trump needs 3 states.
PA
Given what happened with the ELECTION LAW in PA .... there is going to be a major event there with the Supreme Court ruling one way or another.
47,000 vote behind with well over hundred thousand votes in question in just Philly. If the Supremes expose the FRAUD IN COURT... this will explode!
NV
is a big deal too, 36,000 votes behind - but 'out of state voters' and illegals voting easily surpasses that number.
And in AZ
the difference is 12,800.... still counting original votes - likely go to re-count either way. Will that process FIND or toss out Fraud?
Most recounts do not alter many votes at all... but most recounts happen with elections that were not impacted by COVID CONTROLS AND ALTERATIONS - and there is the opening for massive fraud - that we have to find and expose.
Hand recount in GA will hopefully expose the machine vote switching / theft fraud. If so, the numbers will be yuuuuge and give cause to recount everywhere.
he's going to make it
Commies know they'll lose, they just want to program people a little longer, so they can whine about a stolen election for the next four years.
Everything they do, is projecting their own actions on the other side, like the good marxist radicals that they are.
They need to audit and do a hand recount then he definitely wins. How about this timely fuckery. https://nationalfile.com/arizona-maricopa-county-gop-chair-resigns-following-failure-to-check-voting-machines/
Every Arizona pede needs to be hammering the phone and email lines to their House rep and Senators demanding audit.
If you were GOP chair would you knowingly sign off on Soros comprised voting machines as being "accurate"?
I don't get defending this woman. Its not like she took a brave stand. She just didn't show up. Then lied about it. Then got caught.
She should have done her job, shown up, complained if things weren't right.
In the end, I don't think this really makes any difference as far as AZ goes.
Something can't be stolen from him if he never really had it.
True enough, but that's the narrative they're going to use to spark off the massive chimpouts when Trump officially wins.
They want the Chimp-out
They want TO chimp out.
Chimping out is a based verb lol
Don't be so literal over a made up word lol
Simply put, chimpout = a riot
They want the riot
https://media3.giphy.com/media/l0MYE0PvHmH9HjhVS/200_d.gif
White liberals chimp out too, be inclusive
Don't forget honky homos .
A riot! (Especially in big cities) lol
They gonna get the Chimp out when Trump is declared the winner.
Pre-riot edging.
https://ballotpedia.org/Recount_laws_in_Arizona
So a recount can only happen if the difference is <0.1%. And recounts cannot be requested. So no recount. Shit.
Anybody else find it strange that in every questionable State, there are so few votes separating Trump and Biden? What are the chances that Biden got juuuuust enough votes?
The same as the chances Biden cheated mysteriously
The same chances that Biden got more votes than Obama in 2008.
Add in the Republicans kicked ass down ballot
And if they want to argue that that's just because Republicans hate Trump, they'd have to explain away why 2018 sucked for Rs, why Trump had record R turnout just to rubber stamp him to run for a second term in this years primary, and why Trump consistently has 90%+ approval among Republicans. There's no case to be made that Republicans rejected Trump.
People need to stop with the bullshit about "everybody just hates Trump" Im so sick and tired of it 73 MILLION Americans voted for him despite for 4 years the media trying to brainwashing people into hating him. With legal votes he would have like 80 million and if media supported him like they do obama or biden then he be at like 150 million voters
53% approval rating in rasmussen. That is high for any president, not just DJT
That's before he added another 3% this week
Yes, candidates ride The President's coat-tails, not the other way around.
if the votes are only for biden without any mark on the senate or house it meas those were pre-made votes they couldnt mark before cause they knew they would need to move them to whenever state they need them
I'm guessing all these pre-marked for Biden ballots were intended to have the rest of the contests marked if the ballots ended up being "needed", but then the Dem operatives and their foot soldiers got pressed for time or lazy, and just submitted a bunch with "votes" only for Biden. A way to find evidence to back this assertion is court, would be to look for ballots on which the vote for Biden was marked with a different ink and/or marked in a different way (e.g. carefully filled in circle vs. sloppily filled in).
I've had this thought too. I wish we could examine these ballots, because wouldn't they at least have the correct races printed on them?
I'm thinking they had groups of ballot harvesters with blank ballots at the ready, and they jumped through their ass to fill out the president only on these. Also, probably why the duffel bags of ballots showed up so late. There was definitely some coordination going on.. man I hope they nail these fuckers.
Juuuuust enough votes with insane increases on Bidens side. This isn’t over folks!
Trump is our President until 2025
Start with a hand recount in Maricopa County. That should do it.
Is there anything we can do to try and make that happen?
I am trying to get people to amplify here so that more pedes will know.
VoterIntegrity project is doing a private audit of 2 million suspect ballots across US. They need crowdfunding.
Made a thread here: https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8XQH94a/rallying-call-help-if-you-can-ef/
I think there's ongoing litigation regarding problems with the voting machines there.
Start with Dominion flips in NE2. That 1 EC vote means we can win without PA or MI.
Very obvious 30k vote switch.
Maricopa county has 80% turnout right now.
80 PERCENT. SUS.
and let me guess, it is deep blue?
Nope just barely. Two big metro areas in AZ are Phoenix in Maricopa county (~6 mil) and Tucson in Pima county (~1 mil). Tucson is deep blue. Phoenix leans red then some Democrats (Fontes the recorder and Katie Hobbs the SoS) got elected and magically the county turns blue and the Senate seats flipped blue wow
Hobbs is a fucking nasty dyke
AZ doesn't have recounts I think and unlikely that the courts will allow it sadly
It does have recounts but it has to be very close. Something like 500 votes I think? Might well get there tbh. And there are also a lot of not-recorded votes from people given sharpies that if counted will prob tip it.
The margin has to be within 0.1% of the combined total of the top two candidates votes, which comes out to something around 3000.
or within 200 votes, the lesser of the two, so they would only get a recount if it was 200 votes or less. They have to take it to court to get a recount/audit.
Rudy G says individual counties may order recounts. That is to say Maricopa could order a re-canvass and re-count all its own, and not require the State of AZ to mandate one. Narrow State re-count limits do not necessarily apply.
Good. I hope that happens.
That doesn't sound right.
Yeah, it's bullshit--in effect, their recount laws are that there are no recounts!
I don't think you have the details of the law right. It's below 0.1% for a right to a recount. If there's also a 200 vote provision, that would be if the margin was higher than 0.1% but still less than 200 votes.
Thanks! Sounds within possibility then.
nah won't get there and fontes runs the vote counting and had 9 days
200 votes over 25k total ballots cast.
I am trying to get people to amplify here so that more pedes will know.
VoterIntegrity project is doing a private audit of 2 million suspect ballots across US. They need crowdfunding.
Made a thread here: https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8XQH94a/rallying-call-help-if-you-can-ef/
Courts might side with us if we can bring in tons of affadavits about false votes.
TD.win does not allow posting fundraisers, no matter how virtuous the stated purpose is.
I thought that rule was just for your own stuff? I've seen tons of requests for fundraising for other people - I mean there was a whole thread to [email protected] for maidengate
No, it's for everything, presumably excepting the Trump campaign itself, and anything the moderators make an explicit exception for.
There have been a whole lot of sketchy fundraisers posted here, not least of which was attorney John Pierce's fundraiser "for Kyle Rittenhouse", except if you looked at the actual language on the site the link led to, there was no promise at all that it would be used exclusively for Kyle, and basically could be used to pay Pierce himself (and Lin Wood and a few others on the "board") for doing anything they thought was worthwhile. And Pierce has an extremely sketchy history, changing the legal name of his law firm over and over again to create new entities, to conceal the fact that the previous ones are up to their necks in bad debt and being sued by former partners and by businesses that provided financing to the firms. People kept posting links to it over and over and over again, and the mods deported every single one that was reported to them.
Eventually Pierce was forced to resign from the board of this "foundation" he and his pals set up, but Lin Wood is still running it, and Pierce is still running around claiming to be Kyle's "lead attorney" (he is absolutely not -- an attorney named Mark Richards is representing Kyle in his criminal case in Wisconsin). And there's still nothing in the language of the foundation to prohibit Pierce getting paid for all the hours he spends travelling and promoting himself to the media while claiming to be leading a "team" of attorneys repreenting Kyle.
People think they "know" somebody is legit, and when a fundraiser gets posted here using the person's name, people rush to donate their hard-earned money. Just donate to the Trump campaign. It's not like they won't be spending the money on the legal challenges to the election results. If any other person or group is doing genuinely valuable work towards this effort, the Trump campaign will be happy to pay them.
They do but must be pre approved by based mods
I hope the mods themselves are making any posts that promote a fundraiser they have approved. Otherwise, nobody is going to know whether a fundraising post is or isn't approved.
They have been pretty on top of things especially when it comes to donations to places
thats trumps decision
Any state or any place can have a recount if voter fraud can be demonstrated. You’re thinking about a vote that is close WITHOUT fraud. Different things.
They do have recounts. Can be order by state legislature, state elections commission, or requested by campaign but if not in the threshold of automatic the campaign usually has to foot the bill.
It will be recounted whether it be hand recounts plus an audit we don’t know
Arizona has some really stupid election laws which is why Democrats target states like these.
Maricopa county should be the focus. It’s not getting enough scrutiny. Somehow Biden got more votes than Clinton in 2016 in Maricopa county. He is up by almost 400k votes alone in this county which is traditionally republican.
Trump beat Clinton in 2016 by around 40k in Maricopa county.
The amount of people voting appears to be too high as well.
both pima and maricopa, pima is a liberal cuckfest, but it's ripe with corruption. May be in the top 10 most corrupt counties in the US
how many votes left? with the fraud in Maricopa we should get the WIN!
24k https://arizona.vote/ballot-progress.html
Just gotta get to .1% to trigger a state wide recount.
Keep praying. The evil is deep here.
Media is just going to continue to shill harder and harder to make it seem illigitimate.
There are dozens of affidavits and videotape evidence of Philadelphia illegally stopping GOP observers from watching the ballot count. PA election law requires counties, even corrupt counties like Philadelphia, to have count observers. Fraud has already been exposed. These corrupt votes must not be counted per Title 25 § 3146.8.
does that mean an automatic recount even if he falls short of the fraudulent vote?
Audit.
the fact that arizona still isn't finished with its original count is incredibly shady. it's November 12th. move your ass.
Are there enough uncounted for him to make it up though? I cant find clear information anywhere.
Right now off of just pure votes its a lost cause. He need 11k votes to close the gap and there are 23k votes left to count. On the other hand it is the closest gap of any state so there is hope there.
So he would have to come in about 17k-6k in remaining votes. Are those 23k from a Trump stronghold demographic?
Yes but I believe many are getting disqualified due to the people voting in person as well which overrides the ballot.
Oh gotcha. How about the sharpie debacle? Did they ever hand count them or did they just toss em out?
Sharpie looks like a nothingburger. Supposedly the new machines are immune from bleed in so sharpies were actually the preferred tool to fill them out, or so they say. Thing is the AZ votes arent showing up in the system still. AZ said might take up to 3 weeks to show up but that makes no sense.
Not true. I personally know people whose vote did not count who used sharpie.
Oh wow. Not sure I believe them but interesting nonetheless
Why is it impossible for him to get 45% of the remaining votes?
Thats not how the math works. He needs 75% of the remaining votes to make it up. Remember Biden also gains votes off of the remaining so if it was 45% like you said the gap would only grow. 75% is not impossible but very unlikely with the way its been going. Now if he can get votes disqualified or an audit reveals heavy fraud or error its very likely he can still get AZ. We can only hope.
Sorry, it's 630am here, just woke up, brain not working.
So he needs 74% of the remaining votes
https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html
He already did win.
Idiot doesn’t show up to check machines. Probably a Rino Mc Cain saboteur
He needs to hit 0.1
Just for automatic recount. There will be a recount not sure about audit. The gop state legislature will have to request it before certifying. I think there are a few other ways also.
Dominion is used in Maricopa. We need forensic voter audits by autists
Fuck AZ with their 200 count bullshit recount requirement.
I was hoping we would win Arizona outright. That makes the road to victory much easier.
YOU MEAN UP BY 25%? FRAUDULENT VOTES ARE NOT REAL!
NOT RECOUNTS - AUDITS!
GOP AG says no evidence of voter fraud as if he knows
Audit any election that used Dominion software.
So up 20.3% then?
The problem I hsve eith Wisconsin rdcountvjs it appears so far they are just going to run them through the same machines, with no audit no hand recounts
Fraud during the audit, not the recount.
https://ballotpedia.org/Recount_laws_in_Arizona
RECOUNT! YEEEEAAAAHHHH!
Needs audit + recount by hand
Isn’t this all going to get redone anyway, so no point in really worrying?
LANDSLIDE!!!
Anyone have the remaining votes left to count. Link?
They're stalling.
11k behind with 22k left to count.
Wdym down? He’s above, most information is fake now and no major outlet can be trusted with “polling” or “election results”
Are they still counting votes? Or is this the final total (besides the audit and recount of course)?
Been that way for almost 2 days...they are counting at a snails pace but I'm 100% sure this will end in a Trump win or at least a re-count.
Someone needs to search their voter rolls for college age people who voted illegally by mail because they were no longer residents
We all know that when states start flipping red, Russian interference will be back on the menu. Guaranteed. Guaranteed.
Why wasn't Russia talked about leading up to Nov 3? No one will have an answer to that question. But the MSM will immediately switch to Russia once POTUS begins rightfully claiming states.
We are behind... .significantly...
Assuming Trump gets Georgia back... 14,000 votes via hand recount - (tossing illegal votes - etc) and this is a pretty big ask ...
He only needs Pennsylvania and Nevada -or- Arizona.... to hit 270.
So Trump needs 3 states.
PA
Given what happened with the ELECTION LAW in PA .... there is going to be a major event there with the Supreme Court ruling one way or another. 47,000 vote behind with well over hundred thousand votes in question in just Philly. If the Supremes expose the FRAUD IN COURT... this will explode!
NV
is a big deal too, 36,000 votes behind - but 'out of state voters' and illegals voting easily surpasses that number.
And in AZ
Most recounts do not alter many votes at all... but most recounts happen with elections that were not impacted by COVID CONTROLS AND ALTERATIONS - and there is the opening for massive fraud - that we have to find and expose.
You're forgetting Wisconsin and Michigan. Trump is fighting there too. And it is super close.
Detroit is a nightmare ... I think even the fraud has fraud!
i saw a tick that was being bitten by another tick ... that is Detroit.
Both are very close. Wisconsin I consider a win already.
Trump 138,000 votes short in Michigan... the lawsuits are going to have to do MAJOR DAMAGE...
and Lawsuits have been filed to challenge those votes...
"results Audit" per constitutional amendment has been requested.
That 138k block will be among the easiest fraud chunks to get rid of. And WI is likely to flip just from manual recounts.
Just one.....
Just one state 'hand recount' and voter audit which can flip a winner (or thousands of votes) ... would be MASSIVE NEWS!!!!!
Would cause OTHER STATES TO JUMP!
And that is why we need ALL the Info out asap.
Hand recount in GA will hopefully expose the machine vote switching / theft fraud. If so, the numbers will be yuuuuge and give cause to recount everywhere.