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MothershipV 2 points ago +2 / -0

If 5% of the people that voted straight party ticket voted republican (a positive number of people), and 20% of the people that voted single candidate voted for Trump (a positive number of people), you would get 5%-20% = -15% difference. The -15% is not how many people voted, as that number is still positive, its just the difference in % of the 2 catagories.

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r_u_srs_srsly 3 points ago +3 / -0

yea, this guy doesn't get it.

He thinks the X axis was republican turnout overall rather than the percentage of republicans that walk in click one button that auto-fills the rest, then yeet the fucker at the counter.

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christopherroos [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

No, I do get that. So we are looking the difference between straight party vote vs individual candidates.

Let's undue the subtraction to get the percentage for Trump, okay? So we take that 5%, and add it to the -20%. that's -15%. how Does Trump get to -15% of the in individual vote???

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r_u_srs_srsly 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can't tell if you're dense or what because it was explained to you in this thread.

-15% is the margin of expectation to reality, not a total vote count. In a population whith 80% republicans, it may be fair to expect an 80% vote for trump. If 80% are republicans and only 65% voted for trump, you see a -15% margin in the republican base.

It gets interesting when the chart shows that the more republican the area , the more biden is winning. Suggests a big population of hardcore republicans and literally everyone else is a never trumper)

That's a potentially fair assessment.

It's not about any single place. It's that there is that point where once a certain number of straight party republicans turn out, a scaling number of independent never trumpers turn out with increasing numbers, scaled linerarly with the number of republicans. You might explain this by saying the more loud and proud republicans in an area, the more never trumpers would show up to lift a finger. But you're not making that suggestion.

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Titanium1210 2 points ago +2 / -0

First, it's Individual % minu Straight %, so I think in this example the plotted point would be at X = 5%, Y = 15% (20% - 5%). This would have been above the red line on Shiva's chart.

What this is saying isn't that Trump got 15% of the individual vote (or -15% in the reverse but I believe incorrect reverse calculation). He got 20%. What its showing is how much the Individual Vote % out- or under-performed the Straight Vote %. Shiva's point is that in increasingly Republican precincts, the spread between the Individual Vote and Straight Vote shouldn't be negatively increasing on a constant slope.