tl;dr - in the raw voter logs it seems we can use the "date last changed" to know when PA received the ballot. There are MANY THOUSANDS of votes which were received after 11/3. In the PA system they are ALL marked "last vote date" 11/3. But their "date last changed" reveals when the vote was actually physically received.
This might not be huge - but its nice to have our OWN numbers and OWN data so they cant just bullshit us.
LOOKING AT ALL THE RAW PA VOTER LOGS
- 11/04 : 493,184 ballots
- 11/05 : 317,110 ballots
- 11/06 : 172,628 ballots
TOTAL : 982,922 BALLOTS RECEIVED AFTER 11/3
[how I counted this at the bottom]
And of course Team Trump might want to throw out all ballots received AFTER 11/3.
And of course PA might claim they cant tell who is who.
But their voter log does show this info in the "date last changed" column.
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this of course does not indicate when they were post marked
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and who knows if they lied about some of the "received dates" (ie came in on 7th but they back date it in system)
==HOW EXTENDING MAIL IN DATE TO 6TH DOUBLE FUCKED PA CHEATERS==
[ note : this only matters if we can get judge to throw out all ballots received after 3rd ]
PA cheaters thought that the 6th was the last cut off date. So even if the back dated they prolly put the 4th, 5th or 6th since they thought it was "legal"
So in trying to cheat and extend 3 days they actually did us a favor because we can now ID all late ballots (after 3rd).
If the cut off would have been the 3rd they could have back dated them all to the 3rd and itd make it impossible to see what is what.
==MORE INFO ON HOW TO SEE "LAST CHANGE DATE" IS SAME AS BALLOT RECEIVE DATE==
A pede has linked us this
https://www.pavoterservices.pa.gov/pages/ballottracking.aspx
- Online / Absentee ballot tracking
I do a test lookup for WILLIAM THOMPSON county DAUPHIN with dob 01/12/1922
- PA voter roll says he voted on 11/3
this is because that is when they OFFICIALLY count ballots
but in the voter logs it says "last change date" was 10/28/2020
USING THE SITE ABOVE we can see this is the date they RECEIVED the ballot
Not all votes can be looked up in this tool. I tested with several other names and each time if the record is found the web site "Ballot Received" date matches the voter log "date last changed" data.
screen shot from voter log
screen shot from web site
==HOW I COUNTED THIS==
I am on linux and have all PA county files in 1 folder.
Then I do this command
grep 11/04/2020 * | wc -l
This scans all files (*) for 11/04 then the wc -l command counts the lines matched.
This command searches all files and dumps the matches into a different file
grep 11/05/2020 * > pa-nov-5.txt
screen shot for the nerds showing commands and results and counties.
all data scrapped from the logs someone dropped on TD recently.
log data dump - https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8Sjcj1V/happening-a-user-just-purchased-/
missing head info - https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8SlshNq/
zip here
size : 60.60 MB
3 files
pa-nov-6.txt
pa-nov-5.txt
pa-nov-4.txt
Yes. Which is also illegal the way they separated them.
So if my understanding is correct the remedy will eventually be to ask that the election not be certified.
But you don't know the contents of the envelope ? How is that going to help?
I understand mailin ballots are not legit, but you can't prove they are anything, unless you have
Nobody has been able to answer
This may be a stupid question (thank god we left plebbit or I would get piled on)
Seeing as they arrived late wouldn’t they constitute the last 900k votes tallied? So in theory everything counted after a certain number/time?
Basically they will have to toss all ballots after a certain time, probably midnight on Election Day (12:01AM Nov. 4th). Any ballots counted after that will be tossed since there’s no paper trail.
They screwed themselves by tossing all the envelopes when state law says they have to keep them for two years.
USPS photographs every piece of mail, not just ballots.
Does anyone know where these envelope photos are kept and (more importantly) how long they are kept?
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If I'm leading the strategy for the Democrats, I just go find some independent, no-party affiliation voter, maybe a couple of old ladies, and we sue or intervene in the case on behalf of independent voters.
Our argument will be that we don't care what party affiliation the Secretary of State is, the person is obviously an idiot, and that person provided legal guidance upon which poll workers relied on, in good faith, to count and enter otherwise legally cast ballots.
They will argue that my sweet old ladies mailed their ballots by the deadline, they arrived on time, but that the State of PA simply didn't enter them in time because they believed they had those additional 3 days.
Then, the media will report our sympathetic case to the world, about how the mean, nasty GOP, through their insistence on following the letter of the law, really just wants to disenfranchise these two sweet old ladies, both of whom claim they voted for Trump, but their ballots are being tossed out and that's wrong.
Weak. The Secretary of State simply can’t overrule the Legislature no matter what she did or didn’t do, and the US Constitution dictates that what the State Legislature does governs.
The remedy would be everything after the 3rd with no envelope gets tossed. Buh bye.
There have been reports that the votes are all mixed together and the envelopes destroyed. If true you could not tell which came in late. That's why the question of remedy is so important - do they take away all votes because of the illegal ones or do something else? I fear they will say it is too damaging to everyone else to nullify their votes, and even if a vote was late it was the intent of a voter, so they will let the result stand and just sanction the law breakers.
I believe that’s been the goal of the dems all along, with the every vote matters campaign. They want to roll the dice in court and are trying to shift public opinion as much as possible to persuade the courts.
You can just as easily argue that allowing a massive number of illegitimate votes is nullifying. Better to be sure and stick with just the in-person numbers that can be verified as legitimate.
I agree with you that would be better. Unfortunately the finding that something was unlawful does not dictate a particular rememedy - I was laying out the leftie argument.