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LArnix 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hold the line until we get there! Keep up your spirits and those of your friends and family!

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idm03 5 points ago +5 / -0

Translation: There was no election. Bwahahahaha

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thekindlyman555 5 points ago +5 / -0

Has to be proven in court to be a co-ordinated fraud campaign attempt first and not just isolated irregularities...

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idm03 3 points ago +3 / -0

Stealing is stealing.

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thekindlyman555 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have to prove it was stolen though...

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idm03 1 point ago +1 / -0

They don't have to prove it wasn't?

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thekindlyman555 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you make a positive assertion (they cheated in the election) then the burden of proof is on YOU to prove that they cheated. If you cannot prove beyond a preponderance of the evidence (in civil court, more likely than not) or beyond a reasonable doubt (in criminal court) then they are deemed innocent until proven guilty.

In most cases, you cannot prove a negative.

Let's use an example that's a bit less nebulous to make the point. If I claim that you stole $100 from me, then the burden is on me to prove that. It's impossible for you to prove absolutely that you didn't steal my $100 without having been under constant supervision. The only way that you can effectively prove your innocence is to provide counters and explanations for my positive assertions to prove that my assertion does not withstand scrutiny. Like if I said that you stole it last Friday, and you could respond that on Friday you were out of town and you have contacts who can confirm that. But without my positive assertions being disproven, you cannot really prove your own innocence. If I just said you took my $100 but gave no further positive argument, you would have to prove that at no point in your entire life could you have stolen my money.

That's why burden of proof works the way that it does. The person who makes the claim has the burden to prove the claim.

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idm03 1 point ago +1 / -0

WRONG!

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tom_machine 0 points ago +1 / -1

You don’t have to prove they cheated to have absentee ballots thrown out. The burden of proof is on proving the ballots are valid. You don’t have to have proof of fraud to have ballots invalidated. (Even though there is an abundance of proof of widespread fraud.)

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thekindlyman555 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have the burden of proof inverted. You're (we're) the ones claiming fraud happened. The burden is on US to prove fraud occurred not on them to prove that it didn't.

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tom_machine 0 points ago +1 / -1

burden proof is to prove mail in ballots are VALID. You don't have to lock people up for fraud to invalidate ballots. I don't anything inverted. You are conflating two different kinds of legal allegations/remedies (invalid ballots & can't certify election vs. fraud scheme & people go to jail).

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MeatShield72 3 points ago +3 / -0

SOTN!? Symphony of the Night! WHAT!?

Oh, state of the nation...rats.

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Timewise 2 points ago +2 / -0

Castlevania!

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MeatShield72 1 point ago +1 / -0

MY MAN!

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idm03 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wut?

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MeatShield72 2 points ago +2 / -0

Probably too obscure even for here huh.

Its just one of the greatest video games of all time, and when referenced its always shortened to SOTN

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Grindelwald 1 point ago +1 / -0

So, does that mean every House Republican in every state that had voting fraud wins?

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Ridiculousposter 0 points ago +1 / -1

Then why hasn't this been brought up?

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MeatShield72 1 point ago +1 / -0

Soon, maybe?