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Tookens 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yep that is exactly what has happened. The intent was to befoul the entire election to the point where the only remedy is to "disenfranchise" hordes of people or throw the entire thing out. They were betting SCOTUS wouldn't do either. And pathetically, they're probably right.

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KAG4EVRodysseus11 7 points ago +7 / -0

3 points:

  1. I have been told that the outer "privacy" envelope is actually where the signature and scannable voter data QR sat. From that scan, thats how they knew in advance if a voter ballot was received and if it in fact had a sig or did not. I cant verify if that is true or not, but its what Dems have told me.

  2. if it IS true, then it is still improper if not illegal to have the Dem-heavy county boards contact their voters to cure (for a missing sig) whereas GOP counties did not.

  3. but the big enchilada here is the voter signature match verifications. A couple months ago, it made an uproar here and other MAGA news outlets because the Dem SoS issued "guidance" to county election boards telling them to not discard/disqualify mail ins if sigs dont match. They were supposed to instead be kicked to a "challenge" pile, which ostensibly when conservatives complained were told would THEN still have to be observed and sig matched again with chance to be challenged/disqualified. PA Supreme court affirmed this must be done (as it is state law, and literally a strenuous sig match on mail-ins especially with ballot collection boxes is the ONLY thing preventing massive ballot box stuffing). This quieted the MAGA voices down. HOWEVER, ACCORDING THE TRUMP LAWSUIT, IN SEVERAL (DEM HEAVY OF COURSE) COUNTIES THEY DIDNT DO SIG MATCHING AT ALL ANYWAY - EVEN DISOBEYING THE COURT, AND JUST PROCESSED THEM ALL, COMINGLING THEM AS THEY DID!!!

So there is a very valid reason to literally disqualify all the ballots from these counties if the originals cant be fully recanvassed, including with their original sigs and security envelopes.

Just like with everything they do, the Dem scams are SO HUGE that they are in essence daring the entities like the SCOTUS to invalidate and disenfranchise entire large groups, knowing the court is heavily reluctant to do that in even an individual circumstance, much less an entire county or 3.

So thats where it sits, and why.

IMPORTANT EDIT

So I just read thru the actual PA supreme court ruling. What happened is that the scumbag SoS in PA actually filed and petitioned the court to clarify that in fact the county boards DO NOT EVEN HAVE TO VERIFY ANY SIGS ON MAIL IN BALLOTS AT ALL. She said the statutory elections law passed in 2019 literally doesnt even mention sig matching FOR MAIL INS.

The COURT AGREED WITH HER and actually prohibited the county boards from even CHALLENGING mail ins based on sig matching. I wouldnt have believed this had I not seen it with my own eyes. Read it for yourself http://www.pacourts.us/assets/opinions/Supreme/out/J-113-2020mo%20-%20104584871117842321.pdf?cb=1

It makes NO sense of course that the legislature would remove the only meaningful security protection for mail ins, when that protection exists for in person voting!! Without that minimal security measure, there is literally NOTHING stopping fraudsters from simply obtaining voter rolls of previously registered voters who are dead, moved, or just didnt show up on election day, filling out the ballot, then scrawling a fake sig. No valid ID or security required, and because there are collection boxes, these can just be dropped off anonymously. Its literally license to cheat, but made legal.

And the PA supreme court CONFIRMED this for the PA SoS in advance. IOW, the courts and executive branch, both hardcore left of course, colluded to take advantage of what was at the very least a stupid oversight by the legislature. I find it impossible that they intentionally left that security measure out, and they didnt explicitly say in the statutes that mail ins were exempted from the security sig matching, they just dont mention it at all. The court says them leaving it out was intentional. No one seems to say WHY that would be!!

So after further reading THAT is where its at. Since the legislature doesnt have time to impeach the executive branch officials, and since the PA court has sided already with that executive branch, it seems the only remedies are SCOTUS and then the legislature putting up a competing slate of electors.

The year-long orchestration of this by the Dems is to get to exactly this point absolutely mind bending. They OBVIOUSLY very meticulously remved these security safeguards precisely so they COULD cheat and have it be "legal", with no real way to catch the ballot stuffers, nor any easy way to go back and audit (in PA anyway).

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Tookens 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nice summary and matches my understanding as well.

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TheSuperStableGenius 1 point ago +1 / -0

They just commingle the ballots, absolute worst case scenario they have to re-do the election (has never happened that I know of) and best case is they get away with it...it's no risk, like free money. Zero consequences so why not do as much fraud as humanely possible?

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KAG4EVRodysseus11 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is no mechanism for a "re-do". Will not happen

In realistic terms we may get SCOTUS to order certain defined batches of ballots disqualified in certain states : PA, MI ... Also as a result of some suits is some states even without SCOTUS disqualifications, some states with GOP controlled legislatures COULD put up their own electors to the EC ... But the ultimate final say isn't really defined in that circumstance, so that might mean yet another SCOTUS involvement.

The only thing we know for sure is that Dems spent the last year constructing this con from many angles in states with lefty executives with cover from lefty courts...other than SCOTUS, we need GOP controlled legislatures to have balls, fight back, and put up Trump electors if necessary.

There is no doubt the Dems orchestrated a huge con on a massive scale, planned way in advance, but it's going to be up to SCOTUS and legislatures to prevent this.

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TheSuperStableGenius 2 points ago +2 / -0

The thing is Trump one they would do this shit, and it looks like they were caught flat footed like it was a fucking surprise