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And, as egregious as much of the socialism in the 3rd reich was, the version of Hitler history that is taught makes him out to be some kind of cartoon caricature and does nothing to address why he came to power. Very few have ever even heard of the Soviet Republic of Bavaria.
If a random person on the street were by some small chance to have an answer as to what started ww1, they would undoubtedly offer the Arch Duke's assassination.
This does not mean it is really the cause, however.
I am only aware of the Arch Duke version, and that's what I would've answered. (Along with the whole bit about the powder keg that was going on with the gong-show of alliances, a blank check, and all that jazz.)
Yes I remember a history class from high school more than a decade ago.
Same time, I want to hear the other side. I did have a high school history teacher that had his "Three rules of history". I think they were - It's gone (Can't study closely anymore), written by the victor (biased), and doomed to repeat itself (The third rule is the one I don't remember....)
And the leader of this 'Bavarian Soviet Republic' was Ernst Toller.
And he was Jewish.
Lenin and Trotsky were also Jews, who of course started the Russian communist revolution; inspired, of course by Karl Marx, who wrote the 'Communist Manifesto'. Marx was another Jew.
If, as is claimed, Hitler believed 'the Jews' started the First World War via their alleged control of international finance--and then you've got Lenin, Trotsky and Toller in plain sight --its not hard to take the next leap and understand why Hitler, at the time, wrongly labelled 'the Jews' as enemies of the German people.
Some people might believe that the following people--a conga line--and others of their ilk, have been jointly responsible for probably 80% of the SHIT we've witnessed these past 4 years; a co-ordinated conspiracy to destroy Trump and MAGA.
you've got Lenin, Trotsky and Toller in plain sight --its not hard to take the next leap and understand why Hitler, at the time, wrongly labelled 'the Jews' as enemies of the German people.
Surely it can't be that bad! Look, there were plenty of other prominent leaders in Germany's 1919 Revolution besides Ernst Toller. People like Rosa Luxemburg, Paul Levi... oh. OH...
On the international scene, Pope Pius XI held a special ceremony 18 May in the Holy See, a commemoration was conducted at League of Nations Geneva headquarters, and dozens of messages of condolence arrived in Poland from heads of state across the world, including Germany's Adolf Hitler, the Soviet Union's Joseph Stalin, Italy's Benito Mussolini and King Victor Emmanuel III, France's Albert Lebrun and Pierre-Étienne Flandin, Austria's Wilhelm Miklas, Japan's Emperor Hirohito, and Britain's King George V.
You'd think it strange for Stalin to show up at a religious event - but it's one of those power projection moves.
Professors were targeted by Soviets during the cold war. One of the many useful idiots as well as rich and hollywood brats. Jordan Peterson has talked about the trickle down effect, hit the professors, and get them to train the next generation of teachers. The teachers then train the children in what they want them to learn. Recruit and control those who control the minds of the young... The program outlived the Soviets, but we are dealing with the fruit of their work still...
My school had old as fuck textbooks so I used to browse them for leisure. I took one look at Stalin and thought, "that looks like a dictator". Lo and behold it taught just as much. I cringe to think of "updated" books the kids are reading.
They were so "socialist" that they had private ownership, free markets (apart from the wartime economy) and fought total war against the communists to the bitter end. Their variant of "socialism" seemed much more populist and "last-minute ideology" (before the Soviet Union again sought to invade and conquer Western Europe for the purpose of continuing their enslavement and genocides upon genocides upon genocides upon genocides there) than any meaningful kind of "socialism". They explicitly denounced "Marxism". And they employed "socialism" as a way to capture the "useful idiots" from actual communists (which was very much in the favour of the "useful idiots", since those "useful idiots" would have been murdered by the communists later).
I see you're unaware of the Strength through Joy campaign. Very socialist. There were other massive social programs that would have made the WPA blush, not to mention the childbirth programs.
They had social programs coming out of their ears.
Seems very populist. And did the workers have to pay for the holidays? "Affordable prices"? And pay in order to purchase the cars (which were then never delivered due to the outbreak of total war, apart from some people that got discounts after the war)? Sold package tours and excursions?
It also seemed like state support to the tourism industry there, or a state-owned tourism company, in part for the purpose of bringing in money.
There is then the indoctrination part as well as "planned leisure time" part among other aspects, though I do not know of reliable sources reg. that. Do you have any reliable sources reg. that aspect?
Check out Television in the Third Reich (1 hour). There's tons of content from the German archives about the programs - specifically promotions for most of the state social programs and initiatives.
Reg. the video, I must admit I do not quite like that format, looking up sources for the different parts is not easy, and from a(n) (admittedly very superficial) skimming of it it seems to be presented from a certain perspective.
Reg. the archives, promotions do not seem (as least as far as I can figure out) to give deep insight reg. such things, especially indoctrination as well as "planned leisure time". And I don't know which parts of the archives are trustworthy and which are not.
I had an activist teacher in sophomore year of high school. Absolute and total commie. We learned about the ruling class in Russia before Lenin took power. We learned about how evil and rich they were. Learned about Rasputin and all that stuff. As far as I can recall he framed the communist takeover as a force of good.
We truly are currently witnessing a color revolution in the US. One of the most necessary steps is an election that is called into question. As much as I do believe the Tree of Liberty is getting thirsty, we must keep in mind they want chaos and unrest.
I swear democrats who are those psychopaths who, when viewing historical atrocities, consider "Well that failed, but what if we did it??"
The problem is that it is worse than that, for their core look upon those genocides upon genocides upon genocides upon genocides committed by communists as successes. Communism was designed and spread intentionally with goals such as enslavement and extermination of their targets, including Europeans and Asians. "Class warfare" was 100% a distraction, manipulation, etc. etc. etc., which can be seen in the tens of millions of poor farmers and workers that were murdered fully intentionally, planned and organized by communists.
The communists goal is total power over the citizenry.they don’t care how they achieve it because they believe that the means satisfies their end goal.
Fuck yes that’s why it’s scary. I tell people I care about it’s all over unless we get a critical mass of people to wake up. Only then do we even have a chance to stop them
The funniest thing is that it didn't work in the end. Pretty much everyone called Yanukovych out for his fraudulent tactics and he's since been overthrown twice (in 2004 and then again 10 years later). The Democrats copying his tactics, with as little modification as a lazy student frantically trying to copy someone else's answers in the last 5 minutes of the test, is like an Internet tankie convincing himself that Stalin did nothing wrong & that if he ever gets power, he should rule the exact same way his idol did...
I've tried to tell everyone I know that this pandemic was just the government trying to see how much power they have over the citizens of the US, but I was always met with statements like "You may be right, but I don't want to get sick" and so on and so forth
Lo and behold, my worst fears came true. Once they knew that most of the country would bend over and take it, they started pushing the mail in ballots, and it's turned into the biggest election disaster this country has ever seen
And of course, the same people that fell for covid-19 are falling for the fraud, and it's all endorsed by the media and almost every mainstream news source. If Trump can get in for a second term, he needs to break up these media companies and social networks, and he needs to address election security. I feel like I'm going insane trying to explain that the future of America is at stake here, but none of these normies want to fucking hear it
If Trump can get in for a second term, he needs to...
Blah, blah, blah.
Trump got a FIRST TERM--a whopping 4 years--that should have been enough time to fix the rot. You probably only get one shot at this. The people played their part and got Trump in; despite EVERY obstacle. We can't start saying..."oh he hasn't really started yet" and watch as THE WORST of the rot manifests itself.
Trump's either got this, or he hasn't. We'll know shortly.
Why do people keep thinking they will call it America? They hate America, and they always take away names and history. America will just be the nickname for the People's Democratic Socialist Union, if they even keep the Union part.
The Dems knew why they used black libs as the front cover for this.accusing the black libs will always be met back with allegations of “racism” and “white supremacy”.many conservatives lack the balls to confront blacks when blacks are doing the wrong thing.
Romney and McCain also claimed there was voter fraud but they didn’t pursue it because they were scared of being called “racist”.
They need to show some balls in the face of extreme pressure. History itself should show them what the consequences are but I can only hope they have clearer resolve than 99% of the GOP, judges and elected officials who fold so quickly under fake media pressure and cuck along hoping the left will like them
For convenience if anyone wants to read the report on the State Dept. Archive it's very short and provides a bulleted list of the fuckery we witnessed in 2004 and are now witnessing in America.
It's literally a fucking checklist.
Ukraine's Election: Next Steps AmbassadorJohn Tefft, Deputy Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs Testimony Before the House International Relations Committee
The following are examples of the most egregious, widely observed and reported examples of election-day fraud on November 21:
Illegal Use of Absentee Ballots: According to the respected NGO "Committee of Voters of Ukraine" (CVU), massive electoral fraud was committed through the illegal use of absentee voter certificates. For example, people were caught in Dnipropetrovsk and Sumy oblasts with their pockets stuffed with blank absentee ballots that they were using to vote at multiple polling stations.
Opposition Observers Ejected: Observers from Our Ukraine and other opposition groups were expelled from most polling stations in eastern Ukraine on Election Day. For example, in Territorial Election Commission (TEC) district number 42 in Donetsk oblast, Our Ukraine observers were kicked out of all but a few polling stations.
North Korean-Style Turnout in the East: Turnout in the pro-Yanukovych eastern oblasts was unnaturally high. In several electoral districts, turnout for the run-off round increased by 30 to 40 percent over the first round. In Luhansk oblast, the reported turnout rate hit nearly 96 percent -- a number that, to quote the OSCE, even Stalinist North Korea would envy. A similar turnout rate was reported in Donetsk oblast, where 98 percent of the votes went to hometown candidate Prime Minister Yanukovych.
Mobile Ballot Box Fraud: In the second round of the election, the number of voters who supposedly cast ballots at home using mobile ballot boxes was double that of the first round. Much of this voting occurred without observers being present and was massively fraudulent. In Mykolayiv oblast, for example, nearly 35 percent of the oblast's voters purportedly cast their ballots "at home."
Computer Data Allegedly Altered To Favor Yanukovych: There were credible reports showing that that Yanukovych supporters gained illegal access to the Central Election Commission's computer system and illegally altered vote tabulation data being transmitted by TECs to the CEC.
Reports of Opposition Fraud: Yanykovych’s supporters allege that Yushchenko’s supporters stuffed ballot boxes in western Ukraine. But the reports and evidence of pro-Yanukovych fraud greatly outweighed those indicated for Yushchenko.
Same old left wing playbook, different day. This is why Twitter and FB go around playing whack a mole on every wrong think. Trying to stem the tide. Because, slowly, in the age of Information, people are finally seeing the pattern that was buried in time passing. There are only so many ways to fool mass populations.
Well, I would say that the biggest thing about the Ukraine corruption in 2004 was that it was probably a trial run for U.S. election fraud and the Biden Crime Family probably had their mitts all over both.
This is what gives me confidence. It’s so obvious based on math, logic, and historical observation. There HAS to be enough patriots in the right positions for this to eventually get called what it is.
Obvious fraud that occurs in foreign countries is obvious fraud. Obvious fraud that occurs here in America is preposterous and any such allegations are "a danger to our democracy!"
That's true! I've been there at that time, and saw it with my own eyes. I hope that Trump winning this election in the end will be the only similarity!
I swear democrats who are those psychopaths who, when viewing historical atrocities, consider "Well that failed, but what if we did it??"
Explains their obsession with socialism/communism quite well.
That's why they don't teach real history in the classroom anymore. Any sane person who learns about Stalin would forever hate Communism.
Instead, the focus is on Hitler and kids don't even learn about Stalin
And, as egregious as much of the socialism in the 3rd reich was, the version of Hitler history that is taught makes him out to be some kind of cartoon caricature and does nothing to address why he came to power. Very few have ever even heard of the Soviet Republic of Bavaria.
The real reasons why started, or the cover story about Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand?
If a random person on the street were by some small chance to have an answer as to what started ww1, they would undoubtedly offer the Arch Duke's assassination.
This does not mean it is really the cause, however.
History is stranger than fiction.
Can you recommend a book on the subject?
+1
I am only aware of the Arch Duke version, and that's what I would've answered. (Along with the whole bit about the powder keg that was going on with the gong-show of alliances, a blank check, and all that jazz.)
Yes I remember a history class from high school more than a decade ago.
Same time, I want to hear the other side. I did have a high school history teacher that had his "Three rules of history". I think they were - It's gone (Can't study closely anymore), written by the victor (biased), and doomed to repeat itself (The third rule is the one I don't remember....)
Soviet Republic of Bavaria
I apologize in advance for posting a fagopedia link:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic
And the leader of this 'Bavarian Soviet Republic' was Ernst Toller.
And he was Jewish.
Lenin and Trotsky were also Jews, who of course started the Russian communist revolution; inspired, of course by Karl Marx, who wrote the 'Communist Manifesto'. Marx was another Jew.
If, as is claimed, Hitler believed 'the Jews' started the First World War via their alleged control of international finance--and then you've got Lenin, Trotsky and Toller in plain sight --its not hard to take the next leap and understand why Hitler, at the time, wrongly labelled 'the Jews' as enemies of the German people.
And while I have your attention:
Some people might believe that the following people--a conga line--and others of their ilk, have been jointly responsible for probably 80% of the SHIT we've witnessed these past 4 years; a co-ordinated conspiracy to destroy Trump and MAGA.
Here's the conga line... Schumer, Schiff, Nadler, Feinstein, Rosenstein, Weissmann, Schneiderman, Singer, Soros, Wittes, Sondland, Vindman, Ciaramella, Maher, Midler, Streisand, Yovanovitch, Krugman, Karlan, Zucker, Zuckerberg...
Notice anything about them?
SHUT IT DOWN
Stop noticing things citizen!
Oy
I know they are all unattractive, for one thing...
Surely it can't be that bad! Look, there were plenty of other prominent leaders in Germany's 1919 Revolution besides Ernst Toller. People like Rosa Luxemburg, Paul Levi... oh. OH...
Thanks, I needed that chuckle.
Depressed lately following the 'election'...and the inevitable branding of ALL Trump supporters as neo-Nazis if Deep State pulls off this coup.
If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...
InfoGalactic Planetary Knowledge Core: the uncucked version of wikipedia
More people need to use Infogalactic. Thats how we win longer term. Build our own. Support our own.
this^
.00001% or smaller. Gavrilo Princip assassinating Franz Ferdinand was just the match that lit off a family feud.
Who killed Seth Rich?
I'm surprised how many aren't even aware that Stalin and Hitler were buddies who carved up Poland to start the war.
Do you have any thoughts on Pilsudski and Hitlers praise of him?
EDIT: Or this image?: https://i.imgur.com/a6Z4nwU.jpg
Typical international politics for 1935 :
You'd think it strange for Stalin to show up at a religious event - but it's one of those power projection moves.
But Stalin did no such thing, correct?
He's in the photo.
I’m in my thirties. I learned nothing about Stalin in school. I learned hitler forwards and backwards.
Same. All by design. Schools make sure to stay FAR AWAY from Stalin and Mao so our youth remain completely ignorant to the sheer evil of them.
I heard about Stalin but only his name. I never heard of Mao till long after school. Our country’s priorities are fucked.
Professors were targeted by Soviets during the cold war. One of the many useful idiots as well as rich and hollywood brats. Jordan Peterson has talked about the trickle down effect, hit the professors, and get them to train the next generation of teachers. The teachers then train the children in what they want them to learn. Recruit and control those who control the minds of the young... The program outlived the Soviets, but we are dealing with the fruit of their work still...
I'm younger. We never learned about Stalin's atrocities, but boy do I know about hitler
Stalin was worse and Mao worse than all. All SOCIALISTS along with Pol Pot Castro, Chavez, Maduro, Tito, Merkel etc.
My school had old as fuck textbooks so I used to browse them for leisure. I took one look at Stalin and thought, "that looks like a dictator". Lo and behold it taught just as much. I cringe to think of "updated" books the kids are reading.
Same people that created that society then, are eroding ours now...
Bingo - with all the depravity, public humiliation as entertainment, frivolous entertainment, cynicism, and prostitutes as suitable opinion makers.
Fully agree. I often ask myself, how the hell are we gonna fix the issue if we can’t even TALK about the issue??
I have an envelope sent from Essen Germany to NYC in 1922 - It has 26 BILLION Marks in stamps. In 1920 the same envelope was 1 mark.
They're so pre programmed that they're SHOCKED when you tell them what the translation of Nazi is. It was a SOCIALIST PARTY!
They will tell you the Nazis we're far right and that socialist was just a name they used.
I find that leftists typically don't understand the origins of any of these words, or even why they believe what they do...
They were so "socialist" that they had private ownership, free markets (apart from the wartime economy) and fought total war against the communists to the bitter end. Their variant of "socialism" seemed much more populist and "last-minute ideology" (before the Soviet Union again sought to invade and conquer Western Europe for the purpose of continuing their enslavement and genocides upon genocides upon genocides upon genocides there) than any meaningful kind of "socialism". They explicitly denounced "Marxism". And they employed "socialism" as a way to capture the "useful idiots" from actual communists (which was very much in the favour of the "useful idiots", since those "useful idiots" would have been murdered by the communists later).
I see you're unaware of the Strength through Joy campaign. Very socialist. There were other massive social programs that would have made the WPA blush, not to mention the childbirth programs.
They had social programs coming out of their ears.
Seems very populist. And did the workers have to pay for the holidays? "Affordable prices"? And pay in order to purchase the cars (which were then never delivered due to the outbreak of total war, apart from some people that got discounts after the war)? Sold package tours and excursions?
It also seemed like state support to the tourism industry there, or a state-owned tourism company, in part for the purpose of bringing in money.
There is then the indoctrination part as well as "planned leisure time" part among other aspects, though I do not know of reliable sources reg. that. Do you have any reliable sources reg. that aspect?
Check out Television in the Third Reich (1 hour). There's tons of content from the German archives about the programs - specifically promotions for most of the state social programs and initiatives.
Including 'Strength through Joy'.
Reg. the video, I must admit I do not quite like that format, looking up sources for the different parts is not easy, and from a(n) (admittedly very superficial) skimming of it it seems to be presented from a certain perspective.
Reg. the archives, promotions do not seem (as least as far as I can figure out) to give deep insight reg. such things, especially indoctrination as well as "planned leisure time". And I don't know which parts of the archives are trustworthy and which are not.
National Socialist
I had an activist teacher in sophomore year of high school. Absolute and total commie. We learned about the ruling class in Russia before Lenin took power. We learned about how evil and rich they were. Learned about Rasputin and all that stuff. As far as I can recall he framed the communist takeover as a force of good.
Damn these people!!!
We truly are currently witnessing a color revolution in the US. One of the most necessary steps is an election that is called into question. As much as I do believe the Tree of Liberty is getting thirsty, we must keep in mind they want chaos and unrest.
Evil gonna be evil 🤷🏼♂️
Fascists were socialists too.
Every single thing they touch fails... But THIS time it will work
The problem is that it is worse than that, for their core look upon those genocides upon genocides upon genocides upon genocides committed by communists as successes. Communism was designed and spread intentionally with goals such as enslavement and extermination of their targets, including Europeans and Asians. "Class warfare" was 100% a distraction, manipulation, etc. etc. etc., which can be seen in the tens of millions of poor farmers and workers that were murdered fully intentionally, planned and organized by communists.
The communists goal is total power over the citizenry.they don’t care how they achieve it because they believe that the means satisfies their end goal.
Democrats saw what worked and tried it here. It's so obvious when you put it all in perspective
It’s scary how obvious it is when you know a bit of history. It’s scary because you know what could be coming up next...
And it’s scary how “in your face” it all is, yet so many remain asleep.
Shut up, I'm trying to hear "The Masked Singer" sing! After that it's an all-new fucking "Halloween Cake Wars" on The StayAsleep Channel!
The Masked Singer, that show that is only interesting to the club because they get to see each other dress up in their favorite symbols.
For real I haven't watch TV at all except for reruns of House the last month and a half. I'm fine with my 20 year old video games (Baldurs Gate)
Syphon Filter! What an all-time classic game!
Also great and way, way older still: Earl Weaver Baseball and Archon.
Fuck yes that’s why it’s scary. I tell people I care about it’s all over unless we get a critical mass of people to wake up. Only then do we even have a chance to stop them
"Yeah but if our freedoms were threatened, then why isn't the news talking all about it? You need to be more open minded."
Makes you want to choke them, I know
The funniest thing is that it didn't work in the end. Pretty much everyone called Yanukovych out for his fraudulent tactics and he's since been overthrown twice (in 2004 and then again 10 years later). The Democrats copying his tactics, with as little modification as a lazy student frantically trying to copy someone else's answers in the last 5 minutes of the test, is like an Internet tankie convincing himself that Stalin did nothing wrong & that if he ever gets power, he should rule the exact same way his idol did...
Oh wait, they're the same thing, aren't they.
I'm wondering if they learned their racial division tactics from the fake news bloodbath in Rwanda.
Ukraine big surprise
Joe Biden won 100% of the vote in Ukraine, Hunter was there collecting the ballots.
The only oblast he didn't win was Crimea because muh Russia
That was the United States, not the newly formed United Soviet States of America
The America we're living in seems to invite voter fraud, as long as it removes the mean orange man from office
Election laws are just an idea. COVID-19 overrides all laws if the end result favors the Democrats.
I've tried to tell everyone I know that this pandemic was just the government trying to see how much power they have over the citizens of the US, but I was always met with statements like "You may be right, but I don't want to get sick" and so on and so forth
Lo and behold, my worst fears came true. Once they knew that most of the country would bend over and take it, they started pushing the mail in ballots, and it's turned into the biggest election disaster this country has ever seen
And of course, the same people that fell for covid-19 are falling for the fraud, and it's all endorsed by the media and almost every mainstream news source. If Trump can get in for a second term, he needs to break up these media companies and social networks, and he needs to address election security. I feel like I'm going insane trying to explain that the future of America is at stake here, but none of these normies want to fucking hear it
Makes you look at 9/11 in a different light. It was allowed to happen. Pearl Harbor too.
Operation Northwoods really changed my perspective on a lot of things.
Blah, blah, blah.
Trump got a FIRST TERM--a whopping 4 years--that should have been enough time to fix the rot. You probably only get one shot at this. The people played their part and got Trump in; despite EVERY obstacle. We can't start saying..."oh he hasn't really started yet" and watch as THE WORST of the rot manifests itself.
Trump's either got this, or he hasn't. We'll know shortly.
I agree. Should've been done already, but here we are, unfortunately
These are monumental risks for Trump AND America--to leave things so late; point of no return.
United Democratic People Republic of America*. They'll abolish the electoral college and states and centralize everything.
Why do people keep thinking they will call it America? They hate America, and they always take away names and history. America will just be the nickname for the People's Democratic Socialist Union, if they even keep the Union part.
The Dems knew why they used black libs as the front cover for this.accusing the black libs will always be met back with allegations of “racism” and “white supremacy”.many conservatives lack the balls to confront blacks when blacks are doing the wrong thing. Romney and McCain also claimed there was voter fraud but they didn’t pursue it because they were scared of being called “racist”.
They need to show some balls in the face of extreme pressure. History itself should show them what the consequences are but I can only hope they have clearer resolve than 99% of the GOP, judges and elected officials who fold so quickly under fake media pressure and cuck along hoping the left will like them
They have tenure, and therefore little reason to care
For convenience if anyone wants to read the report on the State Dept. Archive it's very short and provides a bulleted list of the fuckery we witnessed in 2004 and are now witnessing in America.
It's literally a fucking checklist.
Ukraine's Election: Next Steps AmbassadorJohn Tefft, Deputy Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs Testimony Before the House International Relations Committee
Posting so I can find this again.
Just read it. So by their own playbook, they're going to cry out about pro-Trump fraud next.
Can we get a Biden "i learned it from watching you" meme?
No you're number two.
I am not a number -- i am a free American
Look, fat, here's the deal..
https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/eur/rls/rm/39542.htm
Same old left wing playbook, different day. This is why Twitter and FB go around playing whack a mole on every wrong think. Trying to stem the tide. Because, slowly, in the age of Information, people are finally seeing the pattern that was buried in time passing. There are only so many ways to fool mass populations.
Definitely a good read. Ukraine is a puzzle box.
John Solomon is an excellent journalist. The whole team over at Just The News is doing great work.
Well, I would say that the biggest thing about the Ukraine corruption in 2004 was that it was probably a trial run for U.S. election fraud and the Biden Crime Family probably had their mitts all over both.
Looks like Biden learned something ELSE in the fucking Ukraine.
You don't have to go back 16 years. Just take a look at Belrus presidential election THIS YEAR 3 months ago. EU (US too?) is calling for a re-run.
John Solomon is my favorite honesttofuckinggod journalist. Based Gammon.
The CIA excelled at doing this type of operation in other nations, why couldn’t they pull the same thing off here.
This is what gives me confidence. It’s so obvious based on math, logic, and historical observation. There HAS to be enough patriots in the right positions for this to eventually get called what it is.
John Solomon, Patriot
Obvious fraud that occurs in foreign countries is obvious fraud. Obvious fraud that occurs here in America is preposterous and any such allegations are "a danger to our democracy!"
How does it feel actually accepting fraud just because it helps your candidate, troll?
How the turn tables
That's true! I've been there at that time, and saw it with my own eyes. I hope that Trump winning this election in the end will be the only similarity!
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