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bubadmt 11 points ago +14 / -3

No one really wants that. War is hell and needs to be avoided until it absolutely is the last option. You lose loved ones and your world turns upside down.

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Towelie 1 point ago +2 / -1

Totally agree but I don’t believe that the 2A option necessarily requires full-on war. The application against a few corrupt politicians or bureaucrats, even at the state level, should get the ship righted again for a least another hundred years.