Direct, upfront, no holds barred, call the facts and observations as they are, and stand your ground. This is The Way.
You can quote me on that.
Also, we know you're bald Tim, so grow up. Owning who you are is part of masculinity. Hit the gym, beef up, and shave that melon. Rogan can give you this one weird trick that really works if you need it.
He was helpful to us before the election, it seems now he's taken the safest option to keep his business alive. It's sad but he's never claimed to be a raving MAGA supporter like us so it's expected.
it seems now he's taken the safest option to keep his business alive
Yeah, and that I can understand. He makes his money from his youtube videos and they are constantly fucking with him, demonitizing and shit. He doesn't want to lose his livelyhood. Hell, they just gave Portland Andy a three month ban because he livestreamed the Arizona Trump support rally.
But there comes a time you have to man up and say fuck you. If he is living in constant fear of getting all his channels yanked then he needs to find somewhere else. He has enough of a following to go elsewhere.
I am so fucking sick of this place turning on people the moment they make a choice that you all disagree with. Tim Pool is a liberal who is horrified by what the term means today. Why do you expect him to think the exact same way you might?
i saw what was up when he was treating Adam like he did on the show. Even if SoyJesus were to be irredeemably trash, Tim was unable to converse with him in a respectful manner. Tim is a mentally weak grifter.
I watched some of the Alex Jones "interview" on Pool. AJ just isn't a good interview because people want to interrupt nonstop and fact check every little point. But someone in the comments said that Michael Malice apparently tells Tim, "I have to sit you down off the air and talk to you, seriously" in the episode. Probably won't go anywhere. Don't care. Trump won.
Taking a counter point here: Fact checking Alex Jones makes Alex Jones better too. 80% of what Alex says ends up being true, often verifiably. The other 20% is him going off on a riff that is said in complete seriousness despite intended to be a gross exaggeration, or him just mixing up a crucial fact because he’s flying by the seat of his pants at Mach 3. There is little to distinguish the two, which is why Alex has his tin foil hat reputation. Alex Jones is his own worst enemy and needs someone to keep him grounded because otherwise he’s off in outer space most of the time. It also wouldn’t be hard for him to not do things like call for Bill Gates to be in front of a firing squad and repeatedly saying he’s Satan—though in Jones’ defense, he also said he might be Jesus. Giving people facts on Bill Gates is enough to turn people off from him and anything he’s involved in, and is far more damning.
People like Rogan and Tim, despite their faults, are doing their best to give Alex a broader audience. This, unfortunately, does require him to remain somewhat more grounded and not make himself an easy target by calling for violence. I love the guy, but he’s his own worst enemy.
yeah dont get me wrong, i'm not shitting on Adam, it was kind of a worst-case scenario for sake of the argument.
maybe i could see how adam's red pilling on air might have been taking too much air time from what Tim's goals were to cover in his show, and I could see how that could cause a split, etc and i get that;
What was very telling was how Tim was talking to Adam like he was a child and basically shutting down every point he made, to the point where it seemed like both Adam and you the viewer were wondering why Adam was even there in the first place
Tim has an ego problem: he doesn't like being challenged, he likes to tell people they're wrong, is a control freak, and has no patience when people start talking about "out there" stuff.
We saw it happen to Adam, we're starting to see it happen with Ian, and we saw how unhinged Tim was getting when he couldn't control Alex Jones and that other guy. Those two were probably the only guest to challenge Tim, and tell him that he's wrong. It was hilarious!
Nailed it. Tim has supposedly been on a red pill journey for years now. Either he's dumb as cuck or he's playing his audience for clicks/views. I think we all know it's a ploy.
Hes probably playing it safe and trying to keep a larger audience. Which in the longrun may be good, as he for a while has been giving subtle red pills.
exactly this. every single conservation was this. tim seems to have a need to control a conversation even if it means completely derailing it. I saw it with Adam and it finally became much more obvious when it wasn't just with him but with alex jones.
note that Tim was also much more careful with Malice, even though Malice was taking plenty of low-key shots at Tim. He had a respect for Michael, as he should have had with Alex, even if Alex is as bad as some say.
He only shows respect when he has to. On top of that he's got a big fuckin ego problem and he even confuses himself on a semi-continuous basis
This. He may claim to be center left, but he’s got the ego and hubris of the far left.
Remember that dating preferences video he did a while back that he caught him a bunch of flack? The one where he said that if he got friend zoned and he didn’t want to be their friend and cut them off? Those women probably friend zoned him because they saw him for the controlling fruitcake he is.
The dude is always high strung with zero sense of humor, honestly I think he’s on the spectrum.
Tim's also starting to do it to Ian, and I can see a rift forming much like with Adam.
Tim's telling Ian he's wrong, and Tim's rolling his eyes when Ian starts talking about his hippy stuff. While Ian's hippy stuff is BS, Tim is having a shorter and shorter fuse for tolerating it. It's only a matter of time with the way Tim cuts Ian down.
I think SoyJesus leaving should have been a red flag to more people myself included. Adam from what I've seen is a genuine and honest guy. And if Tim was so bad to the point Adam left, then there are major issues.
He made it clear that he expected to be in charge and run a tight ship at one point. He was talking about someone else but made reference back to his own show and it seemed to me that he was pointedly directing things at Adam.
Day after the election everything changed. He voted early by 1-2 weeks. The day after election coverage he barely mentioned fraud. He quoted a piece from CNN treating it as a trusted source this past week. He fired back at the maga crowd calling him “grifter” and “lo-fi antifa” stuff like that. Dude I’ve been listening to him nonstop leading up to the election and it all changed Nov 4. He repeatedly states “it seems clear Biden won the race”
I know he was never MAGA, many argue he’s always been a progressive. It is notable that MANY of his followers called him out on a sudden change of narrative.
He really disappointed many people. I suspect he’ll find employment with CNN in the very near future.
I’ve heard stories that he is money hungry and even ripped off his brothers Idea to start a podcast. I don’t know if it’s true but his recent behavior seems to corroborate that story. He’s a grifter who will step on everyone’s head to get to the Top. Hope it’s a lonely throne when he finally arrives.
He was the entire time AJ was on and afterward he literally defended the interview being taken down by the Communists because AJ advocated for Bill Gates being given a swift trial and the death penalty (firing squad) because he's conspiring to eradicate billions of people.
No he didn't. He LITERALLY made a video afterwards proving he never said Gates should GET a firing squad. It was misunderstood what he said by Tim/YouTube. That's what Alex's response video was ABOUT.
I think the way Tim treated Alex was shitty and a waste of Alex's time. He doubled his viewership for that podcast and essentially used it to "stand up" to Alex. It was wack, beta, etc. Ok, but the real issue here IMO is the firing squad thing. Alex was saying "We need a firing squad; I agree with Bill Gates". But it was said quickly someone else was talking at the same time and in the commotion it DID kinda sound like "We need a firing squad for Bill Gates" or something like that.
Alex Jones showed the slowed down and subtitled clip to prove that was what he was saying. As far as I'm aware, Tim isn't aware of that. Alex made that slowed down video at the same time that Tim was doing the next podcast and Alex was telling Tim to retract his statement that Alex broke the rules.
So while I'm kinda turned off to Tim by the whole thing, I think the egregious part that would get me to be like, fuck Tim in general, would be if Tim saw the slowed down clip and request from Alex, and then still doubled down. That's why I was asking, where did he quadruple down on it? Is he aware of Alex's challenge?
He did something similar in the Proud Boys interview. He had an opportunity to have a conversation with a cool dude, and wasted it trying to play hard-ball interviewer.
yea he did, he said he misheard Alex and has asked youtube for a retraction of the ban, and then said he had some ideas for if they refuse, so he's trying to backtrack on it - no outright apology for Alex tho from what i've seen
Gave him a chance and he quadrupled down on cuckoldry. No thanks!
Past the point of incognito.
Direct, upfront, no holds barred, call the facts and observations as they are, and stand your ground. This is The Way.
You can quote me on that.
Also, we know you're bald Tim, so grow up. Owning who you are is part of masculinity. Hit the gym, beef up, and shave that melon. Rogan can give you this one weird trick that really works if you need it.
He was helpful to us before the election, it seems now he's taken the safest option to keep his business alive. It's sad but he's never claimed to be a raving MAGA supporter like us so it's expected.
Yeah, and that I can understand. He makes his money from his youtube videos and they are constantly fucking with him, demonitizing and shit. He doesn't want to lose his livelyhood. Hell, they just gave Portland Andy a three month ban because he livestreamed the Arizona Trump support rally.
But there comes a time you have to man up and say fuck you. If he is living in constant fear of getting all his channels yanked then he needs to find somewhere else. He has enough of a following to go elsewhere.
I am so fucking sick of hearing this justification from Timmy fanbois here at dotwin.
I am so fucking sick of this place turning on people the moment they make a choice that you all disagree with. Tim Pool is a liberal who is horrified by what the term means today. Why do you expect him to think the exact same way you might?
I prefer a more direct approach to red pilling. MAGA doesn't do subtle, sneaky or disengenuous. We are in your face. Tim can go pound sand.
He pounds sand with his head
It helped but I dont think it was planned or anything
Lol who are the 8 commies downvoting this string?
Can't make cool the Pool.
i saw what was up when he was treating Adam like he did on the show. Even if SoyJesus were to be irredeemably trash, Tim was unable to converse with him in a respectful manner. Tim is a mentally weak grifter.
Adam grew and changed, learned. Adam saw the truth and took the red pill.
I watched some of the Alex Jones "interview" on Pool. AJ just isn't a good interview because people want to interrupt nonstop and fact check every little point. But someone in the comments said that Michael Malice apparently tells Tim, "I have to sit you down off the air and talk to you, seriously" in the episode. Probably won't go anywhere. Don't care. Trump won.
The Alex Jones episode was removed by youtube. You can still DL it here (for now): https://volafile.org/get/DyiyH4d1X6F6g/Timcast%20IRL%2020201112.mp4
Taking a counter point here: Fact checking Alex Jones makes Alex Jones better too. 80% of what Alex says ends up being true, often verifiably. The other 20% is him going off on a riff that is said in complete seriousness despite intended to be a gross exaggeration, or him just mixing up a crucial fact because he’s flying by the seat of his pants at Mach 3. There is little to distinguish the two, which is why Alex has his tin foil hat reputation. Alex Jones is his own worst enemy and needs someone to keep him grounded because otherwise he’s off in outer space most of the time. It also wouldn’t be hard for him to not do things like call for Bill Gates to be in front of a firing squad and repeatedly saying he’s Satan—though in Jones’ defense, he also said he might be Jesus. Giving people facts on Bill Gates is enough to turn people off from him and anything he’s involved in, and is far more damning.
People like Rogan and Tim, despite their faults, are doing their best to give Alex a broader audience. This, unfortunately, does require him to remain somewhat more grounded and not make himself an easy target by calling for violence. I love the guy, but he’s his own worst enemy.
yeah dont get me wrong, i'm not shitting on Adam, it was kind of a worst-case scenario for sake of the argument.
maybe i could see how adam's red pilling on air might have been taking too much air time from what Tim's goals were to cover in his show, and I could see how that could cause a split, etc and i get that;
What was very telling was how Tim was talking to Adam like he was a child and basically shutting down every point he made, to the point where it seemed like both Adam and you the viewer were wondering why Adam was even there in the first place
Tim has an ego problem: he doesn't like being challenged, he likes to tell people they're wrong, is a control freak, and has no patience when people start talking about "out there" stuff.
We saw it happen to Adam, we're starting to see it happen with Ian, and we saw how unhinged Tim was getting when he couldn't control Alex Jones and that other guy. Those two were probably the only guest to challenge Tim, and tell him that he's wrong. It was hilarious!
Nailed it. Tim has supposedly been on a red pill journey for years now. Either he's dumb as cuck or he's playing his audience for clicks/views. I think we all know it's a ploy.
Hes probably playing it safe and trying to keep a larger audience. Which in the longrun may be good, as he for a while has been giving subtle red pills.
You know it's bad when a vegan hippie is more manly than you.
Soy Jesus*
Adam: This is what I think
Tim: interrupts no, no, no, no, you’re wrong, listen to ME.
exactly this. every single conservation was this. tim seems to have a need to control a conversation even if it means completely derailing it. I saw it with Adam and it finally became much more obvious when it wasn't just with him but with alex jones.
note that Tim was also much more careful with Malice, even though Malice was taking plenty of low-key shots at Tim. He had a respect for Michael, as he should have had with Alex, even if Alex is as bad as some say.
He only shows respect when he has to. On top of that he's got a big fuckin ego problem and he even confuses himself on a semi-continuous basis
This. He may claim to be center left, but he’s got the ego and hubris of the far left.
Remember that dating preferences video he did a while back that he caught him a bunch of flack? The one where he said that if he got friend zoned and he didn’t want to be their friend and cut them off? Those women probably friend zoned him because they saw him for the controlling fruitcake he is.
The dude is always high strung with zero sense of humor, honestly I think he’s on the spectrum.
Tim's also starting to do it to Ian, and I can see a rift forming much like with Adam.
Tim's telling Ian he's wrong, and Tim's rolling his eyes when Ian starts talking about his hippy stuff. While Ian's hippy stuff is BS, Tim is having a shorter and shorter fuse for tolerating it. It's only a matter of time with the way Tim cuts Ian down.
I think SoyJesus leaving should have been a red flag to more people myself included. Adam from what I've seen is a genuine and honest guy. And if Tim was so bad to the point Adam left, then there are major issues.
I think there is a possibility that he sees all fellow alt-media personalities as competitors and potential threats; not "comrades", if you will
He made it clear that he expected to be in charge and run a tight ship at one point. He was talking about someone else but made reference back to his own show and it seemed to me that he was pointedly directing things at Adam.
One of his segments two days ago was asserting that TRUMP IS STAGING A COUP! Fuck him dude.
huh, which one.... last one i saw he admitted he voted for GEOTUS and his coverage has been overwhelmingly pro-trump for months.
Day after the election everything changed. He voted early by 1-2 weeks. The day after election coverage he barely mentioned fraud. He quoted a piece from CNN treating it as a trusted source this past week. He fired back at the maga crowd calling him “grifter” and “lo-fi antifa” stuff like that. Dude I’ve been listening to him nonstop leading up to the election and it all changed Nov 4. He repeatedly states “it seems clear Biden won the race”
I know he was never MAGA, many argue he’s always been a progressive. It is notable that MANY of his followers called him out on a sudden change of narrative.
He really disappointed many people. I suspect he’ll find employment with CNN in the very near future.
I’ve heard stories that he is money hungry and even ripped off his brothers Idea to start a podcast. I don’t know if it’s true but his recent behavior seems to corroborate that story. He’s a grifter who will step on everyone’s head to get to the Top. Hope it’s a lonely throne when he finally arrives.
Where did he double down on it? I saw Jones last night demand that Tim retracts his statement. Did Tim respond to that?
He was the entire time AJ was on and afterward he literally defended the interview being taken down by the Communists because AJ advocated for Bill Gates being given a swift trial and the death penalty (firing squad) because he's conspiring to eradicate billions of people.
No he didn't. He LITERALLY made a video afterwards proving he never said Gates should GET a firing squad. It was misunderstood what he said by Tim/YouTube. That's what Alex's response video was ABOUT.
Gates SHOULD get a firing squad.
Yea he did, and he was absolutely right. Traitors should get a quick trial and the death penalty.
I think the way Tim treated Alex was shitty and a waste of Alex's time. He doubled his viewership for that podcast and essentially used it to "stand up" to Alex. It was wack, beta, etc. Ok, but the real issue here IMO is the firing squad thing. Alex was saying "We need a firing squad; I agree with Bill Gates". But it was said quickly someone else was talking at the same time and in the commotion it DID kinda sound like "We need a firing squad for Bill Gates" or something like that.
Alex Jones showed the slowed down and subtitled clip to prove that was what he was saying. As far as I'm aware, Tim isn't aware of that. Alex made that slowed down video at the same time that Tim was doing the next podcast and Alex was telling Tim to retract his statement that Alex broke the rules.
So while I'm kinda turned off to Tim by the whole thing, I think the egregious part that would get me to be like, fuck Tim in general, would be if Tim saw the slowed down clip and request from Alex, and then still doubled down. That's why I was asking, where did he quadruple down on it? Is he aware of Alex's challenge?
Tim retracted on Twitter about a half-hour ago.
Said he thought Alex said something he didn’t say, and he was looking for options to re-upload the episode so it would be available again.
He did something similar in the Proud Boys interview. He had an opportunity to have a conversation with a cool dude, and wasted it trying to play hard-ball interviewer.
yea he did, he said he misheard Alex and has asked youtube for a retraction of the ban, and then said he had some ideas for if they refuse, so he's trying to backtrack on it - no outright apology for Alex tho from what i've seen