I’ve seen communism and it’s terrible. People starving and without even soap and can’t speak against the government or theyll be taken away while the political leaders live a lavish life and their people suffer
There is no hope. It’s like the whole country on food stamps. Everything is shitty because there is no open market so whatever shitty shit they have is what you will get. People line up for portions of rice and chicken and if you know someone then you will get something and if not then you’re fucked. Healthcare is free but there is no medicine or clean facilities and they prioritize who will get treatment where again if you’re connected you’ll get treatment if not you’re fucked. It’s all the problems people have with capitalism on steroids.
I like owning my private property that I gained from the fruits of my labor. I'm also a pretty compassionate fellow but I'll be damned if the state tells me what to do with my property. Yes, it always ends up in totalitarianism, you can't fix human nature. Also, no political ideology has a higher death count. Don't ever think for a second that you'll be immune from it just because you're a good little comrade. All your pursuits of classlessness and all that shows you do nothing but appeal to the lowest common denominator. You become so good at being nothing. Where's the individualality in that?
Can we start with it's historical death toll? That there will always be an "undesirable" class that must be eradicated? Or how about the simple fact that abolishing private ownership and enterprise, dismantling nuclear families, and giving absolute control to the state is evil?
So after killing off the bourgeois, all death stops? What happens to the vacuum created by removing the bourgeois class? Is it not filled by the next, most related, class?
Keep in mind that I am exhausted of having these discussions and will not be following up my statement if you reply. Communism has never and can never be implemented "properly" because human nature is to ingratiate oneself. What has always ended up happening is the people live one lifestyle, and the leaders/upper echelon live another. At the same time, the leaders have limited information and make market decisions for which there is no possible way for them to arrive at an accurate forecast. With a group of central planners, THEY decide if you get blue jeans or some other article of clothing they determine to be more practical. There is no individualism, no spontaneous markets, no liberty, but there is rampant corruption with no way to avoid it. When the people get fed up with the double standard and the reduced standard of living, they revolt and the state clamps down. No foreign goods are allowed for the common folk, while those in charge decorate their houses with foreign products and dress their children in foreign clothing, while drinking foreign wine.
I’ve seen communism and it’s terrible. People starving and without even soap and can’t speak against the government or theyll be taken away while the political leaders live a lavish life and their people suffer
There is no hope. It’s like the whole country on food stamps. Everything is shitty because there is no open market so whatever shitty shit they have is what you will get. People line up for portions of rice and chicken and if you know someone then you will get something and if not then you’re fucked. Healthcare is free but there is no medicine or clean facilities and they prioritize who will get treatment where again if you’re connected you’ll get treatment if not you’re fucked. It’s all the problems people have with capitalism on steroids.
I like owning my private property that I gained from the fruits of my labor. I'm also a pretty compassionate fellow but I'll be damned if the state tells me what to do with my property. Yes, it always ends up in totalitarianism, you can't fix human nature. Also, no political ideology has a higher death count. Don't ever think for a second that you'll be immune from it just because you're a good little comrade. All your pursuits of classlessness and all that shows you do nothing but appeal to the lowest common denominator. You become so good at being nothing. Where's the individualality in that?
Can we start with it's historical death toll? That there will always be an "undesirable" class that must be eradicated? Or how about the simple fact that abolishing private ownership and enterprise, dismantling nuclear families, and giving absolute control to the state is evil?
So after killing off the bourgeois, all death stops? What happens to the vacuum created by removing the bourgeois class? Is it not filled by the next, most related, class?
Keep in mind that I am exhausted of having these discussions and will not be following up my statement if you reply. Communism has never and can never be implemented "properly" because human nature is to ingratiate oneself. What has always ended up happening is the people live one lifestyle, and the leaders/upper echelon live another. At the same time, the leaders have limited information and make market decisions for which there is no possible way for them to arrive at an accurate forecast. With a group of central planners, THEY decide if you get blue jeans or some other article of clothing they determine to be more practical. There is no individualism, no spontaneous markets, no liberty, but there is rampant corruption with no way to avoid it. When the people get fed up with the double standard and the reduced standard of living, they revolt and the state clamps down. No foreign goods are allowed for the common folk, while those in charge decorate their houses with foreign products and dress their children in foreign clothing, while drinking foreign wine.