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BrightWinter 65 points ago +67 / -2

Even my best friend is calling me essentially a nazzi sympathizer for following the elections here. He's a low info commie rhetoric cannon. He watches THE NEWS, and that should justify his claim. I expect an appology from him in the near future. I sent him here and told him i will not speak to him unless he has been digging around in here for a while. Ending a 20 year friendship will be his call entirely and i will accept his choice humbly.

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IridiumForte 5 points ago +5 / -0

I got into a heated dispute just simply trying to explain the perspective of republicans to my mother, who is basically just an empty vessel for the MSM. She actually believes that The News would NEVER LIE about anything, that they're incapable and simply the fact that they're 'The News' is enough for them to tell her quite literally anything, and she'll 100% believe it.

I got really angry at one point and ashamedly called her an asshole in frustration, immediately apologized and then called off our plans to hang out.

I need to wait for this shit to have a conclusion, because I can stomach people telling me they don't think there is fraud, I can't stomach people telling me that there is absolutely nothing, will never be anything, and even if there was, orange man still bad.

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Frog_Anne 2 points ago +2 / -0

Has she seen those reports from early in Trump's presidency, when he visited Japan? There were news reports showing him dumping that box of fish food in the koi pond, claiming he was too impatient to feed them properly or behave himself. Then it came out that they deliberately zoomed in the video at the right moment to show only Trump. Prime Minister Abe actually dumped his box first, once they'd gotten enough pictures and needed to move on, then Trump followed his host's lead. The media saw the whole thing, then lied about it to make Trump look bad. Assuming they didn't delete the evidence, you might be able to show her the articles, then the full video.

The "fine people" hoax is another one - it's right there in the transcript that he said he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and they should be condemned but that never get reported.

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IridiumForte 1 point ago +1 / -0

I never pointed out the Abe Shinzo one, I actually hadn't known about that one. But the fine people one, the they're sending their rapists over one, videos of him doing the so-called 'retarded person' manneurisms that he's been doing for decades.

The straw that broke the camels back was me baiting her by saying did you hear about the USPS whistleblower? And her saying that he recanted and he was just a liar. And I asked her if she saw that he didn't recant, and vehemently denies that he did, including video of him standing next to the TV saying opposite of Andersoon cooper.

That didn't matter to her, because the news struck first, they already painted him as a liar, so that's that.