See, that's the problem right there. "Begging the government for permission". We, the western free people, have got to stop being pussies. Free men don't ask for permission. When this whole face mask thing started they said we MUST wear a mask. I didn't. And if I wasn't allowed in somewhere, I went somewhere else instead. I went through extreme measures to not have to wear the muzzle and it OFTEN inconvenienced me. Are we truly that far gone? Has the west completely abandoned freedom and free will? We shall see in the next few years.
Seriously, last week I went on a multi-location trip. Went maskless in every building. Anyone says anything? "I have a medical exemption." Anyone asks about it? "According to the July 3rd Pennsylvania Face Covering Mandate, Section 3, Sub Section B, in compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act, no one is required to provide proof of their Medical Exemption." At which point I go back to shopping, ignoring whatever else Karen has to say.
They want to use their bullshit rules as a cudgel? Fine. I can hone it, and use it as a scalpel. Our weakness is that they break the rules, and we follow the rules. So let's learn their rules, and use them against them. Every rule they MAKE is full of holes; they put them there on purpose so the lawless can be exempted while the lawful follow willingly. This way, if they try to force you to do X, you can throw it right back in their fucking faces.
I had an animated discussion with the hubs about masks last night. I kept asking questions when he said we should have mandatory masks. What about medical conditions, what about small children, what about people who can’t mask and need to buy food, if they can’t afford delivery services, etc. Can’t say I convinced him but at least I am planting the seeds that he will think about and come to the right place eventually.
Indeed. More people need to be willing to stand up for their freedoms. I do. And don't plan on stopping anytime soon. It has inconvenienced me alot, but it is worth it.
I’m a european conservative and Trump fan but this is the only thing I just can’t get my head around with american republicans. Why can’t you just wear the mask? At worst you’re wearing a bit of cloth on your face, at best you’re saving lives...
2 months ago I was hurt skydiving and had to go to the ER to get checked out.
I was required to wear a mask.
During triage my O2 saturation was 93. They told me take the mask off, suddenly it was 99.
Do you know what O2 saturation would get you sent to a hospital to get checked out, normally? 95 or lower.
At the beginning of this mandate, I was working at another company. At this company I was the confined space supervisor for my shift. This gave me access to a few pieces of air monitoring equipment, one of which is oxygen levels. O tested the oxygen levels to prove my point.
Any idea what the oxygen levels are behind a properly worn mask?
About 17.2%. The ALARM goes off at 17.5% because that's a dangerously low level of oxygen. You're not supposed to work in areas that low for any extended period of time and would need supplemental air. I forget the exact limits and time now, it's been almost a year, but OSHA rules are there for a reason.
It's not just a piece of cloth. It limits your oxygen intake while collecting bacteria for you to rebreathe all day.
well, for one thing, we are free people. Why should we wear a mask? Second, it doesn't prevent people from catching Covid. Third, did I mention we are free people?
And people with flu virus may be able to shed the virus before they have symptoms. We don't wear masks for flu season which is also deadly to the elderly.
That great generation is overwhelmingly begging for lockdowns to stop and for the hysteria to blow over. They don't want your forced concern, they just want to live their golden years FREE.
If I'm sick, I avoid people and stay home until I'm well. This is common courtesy. It's been on of my biggest gripes for year, people coming to work sick instead of staying home. It always spreads. I do stay home when I'm sick.
If the virus isn't bad enough for me to know I'm sick, then I don't need to worry about spreading it.
Then you have identified our differences. I won't be forced go comply with commie mandates. And if "masks work" then it shouldn't bother them that I'm not wearing one if all of them ARE wearing one. Masks work right? Then me not wearing one shouldn't bother them if they are wearing one. And you think wearing the same mask all week and touching it every second after you literally touch everything else is gonna stop the chYna virus? It's not. All it is gonna do is transfer germs to your mask and when you touch the mask to take it off it will be on your hands and whatever else you touch after that.
These are control devices to test compliance and I won't be a compliant sheep. I'm not gonna "do as I'm told". And that whole " it'll save lives" is a played out talking point, where does it end? Let's ban all tobacco! It'll save lives! Let's outlaw all alcohol! It'll save lives! Let's ban cars to stop car wrecks, it'll save lives! Government just takes and takes until they have total control. No. I refuse to live my life in fear because others get riled up by fake news.
And let me be clear, I am in no way being condescending and demeaning to you. I say all this in the best possible way. This virus has a 98? 99? Percent survival rate and we crashed the world economy for this? They can fuck right off.
There are other ways to protect them dude. Idk what they do around you but around here most stores have an hour or so where they only allow elderly folks in.
Regardless, the cloth masks most people wear have barely any effect. Their largest effect is virtue signaling. If you don't have an n95 mask then you might as well not wear one. Regardless, we have data from countless states and countries with different levels of lockdowns and mask wearing that shows it doesn't matter much what you do, once it gains a significant footing in your country it will spread no matter what. But deaths are way down compared to months ago due to better treatments so there is no reason to be freaking out just because the MSM says so.
At this point wearing a mask merely feeds into a "solution" that is more damaging to society than the problem itself. And that doesn't even get into the concept of fighting mask mandates because they set a horrendous precedent.
this is a fallacy. Covid has a 96% survival rate among the elderly, the same elderly who are vulnerable every year to the flu, did you ever wear a mask then? since when did we start requiring people who show no symptoms to wear masks? in japan and asia they have a mask culture like many will point out but they conveniently leave out that only people with actual SYMPTOMS are wearing the masks when they get sick. this garbage about people who dont wear masks not caring about the elderly is absurd and merely only a power trip for insecure losers who can lord it over others and pretend they have some undeserved moral high ground. The only to stop the transmission of a virus is with the stuff they use in level 4 biolabs (not the chinese ones though lmao)
In the EU there are no longer any rights, only privileges doled-out at the whim of unelected overlords. Within a generation or two, the privilege to be an overlord will once again be almost entirely inherited. The circle is closing rapidly.
Ah, my beloved Saint Sulpice in Paris. It still has smoke stains on the inside from the Paris Commune fires. It is a wonderful church. It also had a molotov cocktail tossed in a side entrance about 1 month prior to Notre Dame (a short walk away) burned.
Pathetic. I bet muslims are allowed to trample right over them on their way to mosque. Honestly, beheadings are on the table considering how cucked the response to muslims has been.
Just in case you thought the Church wasn't part of the problem! The authority of the Church should be outraged by this. Instead, theybare cucked to the religion of science and corporation. They have been overtaken by secular trappings. They are a synagogue of Satan.
See, that's the problem right there. "Begging the government for permission". We, the western free people, have got to stop being pussies. Free men don't ask for permission. When this whole face mask thing started they said we MUST wear a mask. I didn't. And if I wasn't allowed in somewhere, I went somewhere else instead. I went through extreme measures to not have to wear the muzzle and it OFTEN inconvenienced me. Are we truly that far gone? Has the west completely abandoned freedom and free will? We shall see in the next few years.
Seriously, last week I went on a multi-location trip. Went maskless in every building. Anyone says anything? "I have a medical exemption." Anyone asks about it? "According to the July 3rd Pennsylvania Face Covering Mandate, Section 3, Sub Section B, in compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act, no one is required to provide proof of their Medical Exemption." At which point I go back to shopping, ignoring whatever else Karen has to say.
They want to use their bullshit rules as a cudgel? Fine. I can hone it, and use it as a scalpel. Our weakness is that they break the rules, and we follow the rules. So let's learn their rules, and use them against them. Every rule they MAKE is full of holes; they put them there on purpose so the lawless can be exempted while the lawful follow willingly. This way, if they try to force you to do X, you can throw it right back in their fucking faces.
Top notch. Use the laws to fight the laws.
I had an animated discussion with the hubs about masks last night. I kept asking questions when he said we should have mandatory masks. What about medical conditions, what about small children, what about people who can’t mask and need to buy food, if they can’t afford delivery services, etc. Can’t say I convinced him but at least I am planting the seeds that he will think about and come to the right place eventually.
Exactly. People, go to your churches. We have freedom enshrined in the constitution, go and be free.
Indeed. More people need to be willing to stand up for their freedoms. I do. And don't plan on stopping anytime soon. It has inconvenienced me alot, but it is worth it.
BINGO.
I’m a european conservative and Trump fan but this is the only thing I just can’t get my head around with american republicans. Why can’t you just wear the mask? At worst you’re wearing a bit of cloth on your face, at best you’re saving lives...
2 months ago I was hurt skydiving and had to go to the ER to get checked out.
I was required to wear a mask.
During triage my O2 saturation was 93. They told me take the mask off, suddenly it was 99.
Do you know what O2 saturation would get you sent to a hospital to get checked out, normally? 95 or lower.
At the beginning of this mandate, I was working at another company. At this company I was the confined space supervisor for my shift. This gave me access to a few pieces of air monitoring equipment, one of which is oxygen levels. O tested the oxygen levels to prove my point.
Any idea what the oxygen levels are behind a properly worn mask?
About 17.2%. The ALARM goes off at 17.5% because that's a dangerously low level of oxygen. You're not supposed to work in areas that low for any extended period of time and would need supplemental air. I forget the exact limits and time now, it's been almost a year, but OSHA rules are there for a reason.
It's not just a piece of cloth. It limits your oxygen intake while collecting bacteria for you to rebreathe all day.
Feel free to wear one. You can't force me to
well, for one thing, we are free people. Why should we wear a mask? Second, it doesn't prevent people from catching Covid. Third, did I mention we are free people?
Why should you wear a mask? So you don’t spread the virus and kill elderly people?
I don't have the virus. If I get sick I will stay home until I'm better so I don't spread it. Same way I handle the flu.
How do you know? Tons of people are asymptomatic
And people with flu virus may be able to shed the virus before they have symptoms. We don't wear masks for flu season which is also deadly to the elderly.
If the virus is so bad that you need a test to see if you have it, it's not anything to worry about.
But what about all the dead people?
The Pfizer vaccine study was assuming that asymptomatic meant non-infected. That's how they arrived at their 90% effective rate. So...trust science?
I would turn the question back on you. How do you know?
Did you know that they didn't even have samples of COVID-19 to make the tests for COVID-19?
What are they even testing for?
The average age of death from covid is higher than life expectancy in almost every country.
I know but if I can save the lives of that brilliant generation then I’ll wear a piece of cloth for a while
That great generation is overwhelmingly begging for lockdowns to stop and for the hysteria to blow over. They don't want your forced concern, they just want to live their golden years FREE.
There is literally no evidence your facial talismans do any "life-saving".
Quite a bit of evidence that shows it does the exact opposite though!
Ok source?
You are free to wear it. Don't impose on me.
If I'm sick, I avoid people and stay home until I'm well. This is common courtesy. It's been on of my biggest gripes for year, people coming to work sick instead of staying home. It always spreads. I do stay home when I'm sick.
If the virus isn't bad enough for me to know I'm sick, then I don't need to worry about spreading it.
Then you have identified our differences. I won't be forced go comply with commie mandates. And if "masks work" then it shouldn't bother them that I'm not wearing one if all of them ARE wearing one. Masks work right? Then me not wearing one shouldn't bother them if they are wearing one. And you think wearing the same mask all week and touching it every second after you literally touch everything else is gonna stop the chYna virus? It's not. All it is gonna do is transfer germs to your mask and when you touch the mask to take it off it will be on your hands and whatever else you touch after that.
These are control devices to test compliance and I won't be a compliant sheep. I'm not gonna "do as I'm told". And that whole " it'll save lives" is a played out talking point, where does it end? Let's ban all tobacco! It'll save lives! Let's outlaw all alcohol! It'll save lives! Let's ban cars to stop car wrecks, it'll save lives! Government just takes and takes until they have total control. No. I refuse to live my life in fear because others get riled up by fake news.
And let me be clear, I am in no way being condescending and demeaning to you. I say all this in the best possible way. This virus has a 98? 99? Percent survival rate and we crashed the world economy for this? They can fuck right off.
We’re not slaves or subjects here in America, that’s why.
But do you not want to protect the elderly in your society?
The elderly that survived the H1N1 pandemic, which was killing young people?
The elderly that probably were there for the 1968 and 1958 pandemics, and survived?
What about the ones among the 200,000 dead bodies in America (not trumps fault at all, don’t think I’m getting at that)
There are other ways to protect them dude. Idk what they do around you but around here most stores have an hour or so where they only allow elderly folks in.
Regardless, the cloth masks most people wear have barely any effect. Their largest effect is virtue signaling. If you don't have an n95 mask then you might as well not wear one. Regardless, we have data from countless states and countries with different levels of lockdowns and mask wearing that shows it doesn't matter much what you do, once it gains a significant footing in your country it will spread no matter what. But deaths are way down compared to months ago due to better treatments so there is no reason to be freaking out just because the MSM says so.
At this point wearing a mask merely feeds into a "solution" that is more damaging to society than the problem itself. And that doesn't even get into the concept of fighting mask mandates because they set a horrendous precedent.
this is a fallacy. Covid has a 96% survival rate among the elderly, the same elderly who are vulnerable every year to the flu, did you ever wear a mask then? since when did we start requiring people who show no symptoms to wear masks? in japan and asia they have a mask culture like many will point out but they conveniently leave out that only people with actual SYMPTOMS are wearing the masks when they get sick. this garbage about people who dont wear masks not caring about the elderly is absurd and merely only a power trip for insecure losers who can lord it over others and pretend they have some undeserved moral high ground. The only to stop the transmission of a virus is with the stuff they use in level 4 biolabs (not the chinese ones though lmao)
Because masks don't work. Shutdowns don't work. Suicides have already dwarfed covid deaths.
God given right to worship. Not gov given.
In the EU there are no longer any rights, only privileges doled-out at the whim of unelected overlords. Within a generation or two, the privilege to be an overlord will once again be almost entirely inherited. The circle is closing rapidly.
I bet the mosques are still open!
The muslims just go to their mosques. The police are too scared to say no to them anyway and would have massive trouble to enforce this.
Imagine pleading with your government. Your globalist atheist government.
We don't worship government, we worship God.
Ah, my beloved Saint Sulpice in Paris. It still has smoke stains on the inside from the Paris Commune fires. It is a wonderful church. It also had a molotov cocktail tossed in a side entrance about 1 month prior to Notre Dame (a short walk away) burned.
Act like sheep and you will be herded...dont give the government your rights...
This is what France did to the religious during the Reign of Terror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYq614xqnlI&feature=emb_logo
Pathetic. I bet muslims are allowed to trample right over them on their way to mosque. Honestly, beheadings are on the table considering how cucked the response to muslims has been.
Just Do It.
why don't these fucking cucks just go in???????????????????????????????????????????????
Just in case you thought the Church wasn't part of the problem! The authority of the Church should be outraged by this. Instead, theybare cucked to the religion of science and corporation. They have been overtaken by secular trappings. They are a synagogue of Satan.
If you ever see me on my knees begging my government for anything BUT the lives of my family, shoot me.
No, go to the strip clubs or bars - those are open I think.
Christcucks gonna cuck
A slave asks the government for permission. A free man simply goes to mass.
Sounds like god is answering their prayers the way he normally does: with silence.