Ignore all the "IT'S HAPPENING!!!" and "NEW BOMBSHELL!!!" and "KRAKEN!!!" stuff for a moment. We've all heard for years about 4-D chess, trusting "the plan" and all that jazz from Q and others. Every day it seems like we're hearing more and more bad news from sources that eagerly want Trump to capitulate, but we're also hearing a lot of false hope and grasping at straws, chasing after every scrap of hope, no matter how unsubstantial it may be.
So, does anyone know... realistically... what the Trump paths to victory are? It would be helpful, especially for new "pedes" who are coming here, like myself, searching for hope and alternative voices from the MSM, to have these potential scenarios explained by those who might know.
Recounts don't seem like they will change anything. Neither do hand recounts. How will an audit work? Can it detect electronic fraud and if so, can it help in places where the paper trail of ballots has been destroyed? What measures can be taken to throw out fraudulent ballots? What if state certifies the election results anyhow? The deadlines for certification are getting closer each day. Once certified can those results be challenged or is it a done deal?
Sorry for the long post, but there's a lot going on and most of us... even those of us who think we've been well-informed up to this point... don't really know what's going on and it would be helpful if we could get some facts about the matter posted in some way that we can monitor progress on these fronts. It feels like the winning options are narrowing.
While losing hope is never an option, chasing after false hope does not help us, either.
Long story short, many of the paths revolve around SCOTUS. We all know the game is rigged to hell, the fight is that we will likely have to head up to scotus for several arguments to take the W.
For one noch, we have to take back PA. Alito ruled that they have to segregate ballots and cannot count any dated past the 3rd. From testimony, we have witnesses claiming they did. If the ballots were scrambled as they claimed, this may well force a ripple down from the SCOTUS through the states, forcing late ballots and unverified/unverifiable ballots into the trash on appeal. This is the largest of the current goals, and has the highest odds of causing an orthodox victory, as you can clap several states at once if the ruling goes through.
For another, we have GA, which is currently recounting. This one is a bit bleak, as they are pulling the same shit all over again, with the "15 feet away" shit, but seeing as trump took the W on the last "observance" ruling, he may well be able to snowball this into another one, which would force the recoint into a state where they at least can't fabricate new votes to make up for any that were doubled up/destroyed. Problem here, is that i don't think anybody has challenged it, which is not good. Trump needs to fire off on this one asap, because even assuming an L. It is entirely possible that we can at least prove a vote count discrepancy if we can observe from closer than the next fucking planet.
3rd notch is dominion voting sytems, assuming trump has sued to reveal source code, or has otherwise obtained it, he can nullify the count from any and all of these machines by demonstrating that the machines are capable of swapping, deleting, and faking ballot counts (as their manual already tells us). This is one where he can literally destroy the system from the roots, but word on this particular motion is under wraps atm, so i can't tell you who has/knows what on this topic.
4th notch, is a mix between 1 and 2. Even at a loss, trump can snowball these to build a case for unequal treatment/ representation among voters, which he has begun working towards. This one is a hybrid argument, but has grounds in the fact that in person voters were vetted vigorously, while mail in ballots appear to have been accepted at 30x the rate of elections prior, which is already stunning, considering how many ballots are likely from first time voters.
Last notch is one that's unreasonable, but possible, trump may well be capable of forcing it to the senate by clogging up with litigation, in which case, it's republican majority, and assuming no traitors, trump would take the win off that.
There's more, but those are the ones i have from the top of my head with the best chances. A win in any 2 of them is instant checkmate, and a specific few could single handedly lead to a trump win.
You are not understanding what is coming. I didn't either until this morning. Trump is golfing, smiling and being very quite for a reason. Please read this article, it is very detail on how, what, where and when.
Credit to u/TopangaMagic for the original link. TRUMP 2020 AND BEYOND!
It sounds like the plot for a Tom Clancy novel. It would be phenomenal, if true, but on the surface it sounds like another "IT'S COMING! 4-D CHESS!" sort of scenario.
Thank you for the link. According to Wayne Allyn Root, the Trump strategy (at least one of them) is: Flip two of the four states listed below and get the SCOTUS to step in in PA and invalidate enough votes to flip the state to Trump.
The deadline for Georgia is 5 days away and from what I understand they are doing a recount that is unlikely to change the results. I'm unaware of any other litigation to change/delay that certification. I'm not sure if the Trump Team can challenge that further or, if so, how.
I believe one of Trump's lawyers said if they try and certify during litigation they will pretty much just be implicating themselves in voter fraud even more.
Let's be real here.
Ignore all the "IT'S HAPPENING!!!" and "NEW BOMBSHELL!!!" and "KRAKEN!!!" stuff for a moment. We've all heard for years about 4-D chess, trusting "the plan" and all that jazz from Q and others. Every day it seems like we're hearing more and more bad news from sources that eagerly want Trump to capitulate, but we're also hearing a lot of false hope and grasping at straws, chasing after every scrap of hope, no matter how unsubstantial it may be.
So, does anyone know... realistically... what the Trump paths to victory are? It would be helpful, especially for new "pedes" who are coming here, like myself, searching for hope and alternative voices from the MSM, to have these potential scenarios explained by those who might know.
Recounts don't seem like they will change anything. Neither do hand recounts. How will an audit work? Can it detect electronic fraud and if so, can it help in places where the paper trail of ballots has been destroyed? What measures can be taken to throw out fraudulent ballots? What if state certifies the election results anyhow? The deadlines for certification are getting closer each day. Once certified can those results be challenged or is it a done deal?
Sorry for the long post, but there's a lot going on and most of us... even those of us who think we've been well-informed up to this point... don't really know what's going on and it would be helpful if we could get some facts about the matter posted in some way that we can monitor progress on these fronts. It feels like the winning options are narrowing.
While losing hope is never an option, chasing after false hope does not help us, either.
Long story short, many of the paths revolve around SCOTUS. We all know the game is rigged to hell, the fight is that we will likely have to head up to scotus for several arguments to take the W.
For one noch, we have to take back PA. Alito ruled that they have to segregate ballots and cannot count any dated past the 3rd. From testimony, we have witnesses claiming they did. If the ballots were scrambled as they claimed, this may well force a ripple down from the SCOTUS through the states, forcing late ballots and unverified/unverifiable ballots into the trash on appeal. This is the largest of the current goals, and has the highest odds of causing an orthodox victory, as you can clap several states at once if the ruling goes through.
For another, we have GA, which is currently recounting. This one is a bit bleak, as they are pulling the same shit all over again, with the "15 feet away" shit, but seeing as trump took the W on the last "observance" ruling, he may well be able to snowball this into another one, which would force the recoint into a state where they at least can't fabricate new votes to make up for any that were doubled up/destroyed. Problem here, is that i don't think anybody has challenged it, which is not good. Trump needs to fire off on this one asap, because even assuming an L. It is entirely possible that we can at least prove a vote count discrepancy if we can observe from closer than the next fucking planet.
3rd notch is dominion voting sytems, assuming trump has sued to reveal source code, or has otherwise obtained it, he can nullify the count from any and all of these machines by demonstrating that the machines are capable of swapping, deleting, and faking ballot counts (as their manual already tells us). This is one where he can literally destroy the system from the roots, but word on this particular motion is under wraps atm, so i can't tell you who has/knows what on this topic.
4th notch, is a mix between 1 and 2. Even at a loss, trump can snowball these to build a case for unequal treatment/ representation among voters, which he has begun working towards. This one is a hybrid argument, but has grounds in the fact that in person voters were vetted vigorously, while mail in ballots appear to have been accepted at 30x the rate of elections prior, which is already stunning, considering how many ballots are likely from first time voters.
Last notch is one that's unreasonable, but possible, trump may well be capable of forcing it to the senate by clogging up with litigation, in which case, it's republican majority, and assuming no traitors, trump would take the win off that.
There's more, but those are the ones i have from the top of my head with the best chances. A win in any 2 of them is instant checkmate, and a specific few could single handedly lead to a trump win.
Outstanding reply! I'll look into these further. Thank you.
You are not understanding what is coming. I didn't either until this morning. Trump is golfing, smiling and being very quite for a reason. Please read this article, it is very detail on how, what, where and when.
Credit to u/TopangaMagic for the original link. TRUMP 2020 AND BEYOND!
It sounds like the plot for a Tom Clancy novel. It would be phenomenal, if true, but on the surface it sounds like another "IT'S COMING! 4-D CHESS!" sort of scenario.
https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2020/11/15/trump-has-a-pathway-to-victory-youre-about-to-learn-a-lesson-in-the-trump-rules-n2580076
Thank you for the link. According to Wayne Allyn Root, the Trump strategy (at least one of them) is: Flip two of the four states listed below and get the SCOTUS to step in in PA and invalidate enough votes to flip the state to Trump.
Georgia 11/20 Arizona 11/30 Nevada 12/1 Wisconsin 12/1
The deadline for Georgia is 5 days away and from what I understand they are doing a recount that is unlikely to change the results. I'm unaware of any other litigation to change/delay that certification. I'm not sure if the Trump Team can challenge that further or, if so, how.
I believe one of Trump's lawyers said if they try and certify during litigation they will pretty much just be implicating themselves in voter fraud even more.