I think it's very unfair to add Tim and Ben to the list. They are very upfront about their cuckery. If you feel betrayed by them you haven't been paying attention. Ben is the kind of dude who would tell you. Just because your enemy brought guns to a knife fight. Doesn't make it okay for you to use guns too. He's cuck lord supreme. Tim is also the guy who is proud to be a fence sitting milk sop as they destroy our democracy. Neither one ever lied to you.