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posted ago by GodEmperorBeerus +24 / -1

https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2013/12_0288.htm

Survey of New York City Resident Physicians on Cause-of-Death Reporting, 2010

Results:

A total of 521 residents from 38 residency programs participated (program response rate, 54%). We identified 178 (34%) high-volume respondents. Only 33.3% of all respondents and 22.7% of high-volume residents believed that cause-of-death reporting is accurate. Of all respondents, 48.6% had knowingly reported an inaccurate cause of death; 58.4% of high-volume residents had done so. Of respondents who indicated they reported an inaccurate cause, 76.8% said the system would not accept the correct cause, 40.5% said admitting office personnel instructed them to “put something else,” and 30.7% said the medical examiner instructed them to do so; 64.6% cited cardiovascular disease as the most frequent diagnosis inaccurately reported.

Conclusion:

Most resident physicians believed the current cause-of-death reporting system is inaccurate, often knowingly documenting incorrect causes. The system should be improved to allow reporting of more causes, and residents should receive better training on completing death certificates.


So why is this relevant? Back in 2013, 40%! of residents knowingly reported the wrong cause of death because they were told to. A much higher percentage put the wrong cause of death because the computer told them to. This is with no political or financial incentive to inflate the death counts back in 2013.

Now that there is both financial and political incentive to list patients as having died from COVID, how are we supposed to believe the numbers they put out? Just google things like 'gunshot victim listed as covid death' and you get countless examples.

https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2013/12_0288.htm **Survey of New York City Resident Physicians on Cause-of-Death Reporting, 2010** **Results:** A total of 521 residents from 38 residency programs participated (program response rate, 54%). We identified 178 (34%) high-volume respondents. **Only 33.3% of all respondents and 22.7% of high-volume residents believed that cause-of-death reporting is accurate.** Of all respondents, 48.6% had knowingly reported an inaccurate cause of death; 58.4% of high-volume residents had done so. Of respondents who indicated they reported an inaccurate cause, 76.8% said the system would not accept the correct cause, **40.5% said admitting office personnel instructed them to “put something else,” and 30.7% said the medical examiner instructed them to do so;** 64.6% cited cardiovascular disease as the most frequent diagnosis inaccurately reported. **Conclusion:** Most resident physicians believed the current cause-of-death reporting system is inaccurate, often knowingly documenting incorrect causes. The system should be improved to allow reporting of more causes, and residents should receive better training on completing death certificates. ------------------------------------------------- So why is this relevant? Back in 2013, **40%**! of residents knowingly reported the wrong cause of death because they were told to. A much higher percentage put the wrong cause of death because the computer told them to. This is with no political or financial incentive to inflate the death counts back in 2013. Now that there is both financial and political incentive to list patients as having died from COVID, how are we supposed to believe the numbers they put out? Just google things like 'gunshot victim listed as covid death' and you get countless examples.
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DesertYote 2 points ago +2 / -0

It would be instructive to look at total deaths per month for the last 10 years for each state. If there really is a significant new cause of death, it should be apparent.

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GodEmperorBeerus [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

The CDC already said they're not tracking pnuemonia deaths this year due to COVID. So you won't have that total to compare against...

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DesertYote 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't need it. Just need the total number of deaths for each month by state. Bypass the CDC altogether. Get the data from the states.