but I want you to know that God has a plan for this country and this world. He has made Himself known through the OT and in the person of Jesus. Trust in Him, not government! God will take us to where we need to be!
If anyone has questions of Christ or wants to talk, I am here and happy to talk to anyone!
God. loves. you.
Absolutely. People have been amazed at my peace during this time of turbulence n our country. I am at peace because I know God and God knows everything. Let His will be done.
Amen!
I think that’s a good idea! Questions should be welcomed - and with this community there are good people who can give great commentary and resources.
I’m happy to talk with you if you want!
That was a long post! I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I've had a similar consideration before. I have come to the conclusion that the most loving thing God could do is give us a choice to choose him or reject him. The only way for that choice to be real is for there to be some ability for us to not do what he wants (sin). Because sin is allowed, we truly do have a choice and that is real love. Think about if you created a robot and programmed it to love you, would it really be love?
Well, I'll try brother. Here's part 1 (of 2) of my new bookpost titled, "Holy Shit, What Have I Done."
That's leaving out a big chunk of the picture. It's like saying that socialism is all about helping everyone, and leaving out the oppression and starvation parts. You are missing the parts about God being jealous, vengeful, wrathful, holy, merciful, eternal, etc. I think most people like to assign the 'good' attributes to God, and leave off the things that aren't quite so cheerful. That alone goes a long way into explaining some of your confliction, I think.
Do you have a dog? Lets assume you do. When he craps on the floor, do you discipline him? If he bites you, do you scold him and teach him otherwise? What if he doesn't learn? What if he kills your other animals, do you love him so much that you don't care? Do you not love your other animals? What if he were to kill your child, would you put him down? Infinite love does not preclude discipline, it guarantees it. If you truly love something so much, you want it to be the best possible version of itself that it can be, right? So if it doesn't understand, you have to teach it, and sometimes teaching has to include discipline. Likewise, sometimes even if you love something greatly, you still have to kill it to care for others that you also love. You can absolutely love something that you have to kill.
You then seem to get stuck on God's perception of time versus ours. All I can tell you here is that he absolutely percieves time differently than we do, and therefore beyond our (or at least my) understanding.
2 Peter 3:8 -
This is difficult to answer without getting mired in theological discourse and stepping on toes, so I'll endeavor to answer it with the caveat that I'm quite certain certain people will dissagree with me. I further stipulate that this is how I view it, I'm willing to change my opinions when presented with evidence, and papists can...n/m. OK. Lets pretend you have a harem of slaves. They love you unconditionally because you've told them to. They will not ever challenge you, or point out your mistakes, because they love you perfectly and have no free will. They are incapable of displeasing you. After the novelty of the thought (and all the impure thoughts you just had about that harem) wears off, ask yourself this, would you be happy with that? How do you know if the people in that harem are happy? They are incapable of saying anything negative because it would displease you. If you take this premise at face value and fill in the blanks, then that covers the "why would you create something that can sin" angle if you postulate that "sin" would be "anything that displeases you." If we take that a step further, then we can infer that love cannot exist without free will. Even further, and we must conclude that if love cannot exist without free will, then love cannot exist without those who would displease you, and therefor if you wish to love and be loved, you must also condemn. I know, I hear the objections already, lets just continue and see if some of those sort themselves out, as I suspect they shall.
Hell then. You still love them even though they displease you, so why torture them? I like that question. Undoubtedly there will be some new age watered down 'christian' along shortly to say there 'is no hell.' Allow me to dispell that hogwash by looking at what we know about hell.
Revelation 21:8 -
Matthew 25:46 -
Matthew 13:50 -
...sounds like hell to me. Some will argue that hasn't happened yet, and that souls are currently awaiting judgement in purgatory. Lets sidestep all that and at least agree that eventually, at some point, assholes are getting chucked into the lake of fire, as I think that is more pertinent to your present quandry. You state, "I cannot fathom how that fits the definition of also being infinitely loving." I think I can answer to this one. In your heart, you want to be a good person. You can't understand how someone could love something and allow it to be tortured for eternity, in fact, that offends your heart so profoundly that it casts the whole lot into doubt for you. I believe this is the case because you are assigning responsibility for that choice on God. Even worse, this is something major, your eternal soul, and here He won't even give you a concrete answer, He's content to let you choose not to believe. So what if it was concrete? What if people knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt that God was real? No one would choose not to follow the Lord then, right?
Revelation 16:11 -
For context, this is occuring when God is pouring his wrath upon the world in judgement of it's wickedness. People will know God exists, and will hate him anyway. Even now, if you look around online, you can find blog posts and discussions of people who believe God exists, and hate Him anyway. Furthermore, you are assuming that we are all made by God. We aren't. Your parents made you, and God imbued you with a soul, to give you the chance to know Him and have everlasting life. He could have chosen not to imbue you with a soul, but what would happen then when you die? poof oblivion? (See Zechariah 12:1 - "...and formeth the spirit of man within him" and Hebrews 12:9 - "Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?")
Well, if God is also infinitely Just (He is) then He must also uphold justice, right? If someone steals your "My Little Pony" lunchbox and eats your lunch, is it just to make him give back the lunchbox when he gets caught, then let him go? What about your lunch? What is the just punishment for someone who rapes you? Does justice require a punitive component? Are you beginning to see the problem with only addressing specific aspects of God, and not the whole?
On your paragraph about the nature of love; there are at least three types of love. Fatherly love, which you liken to a "pale immitation...of God's love" (I tend to think you are right about that), brotherly love, which should be self explanitory, and romantic love, which also seems self evident. To use your example, say the father takes the needle from the son's arm, locks him away, and does everything in his possesion to stop his son from self destructing. Have you ever had much experience with drug addicts (esp. heroine)? I have. I've had my fill of loved ones dead and dying from that shit. I have gone above and beyond for them, I've gotten them into the best rehab programs, physically dragged them out of crack houses, faught (not just verbally) and then gone back and did it again when they did it the next time. I spent years of my life trying to save my brother. You cannot save a junky that doesn't want to be saved. You can do all of it, and they'll just hate you for it until they sober up a little, and you'll see that person you loved still in there, until they shove that shit up their arm again. No, forcing your will upon another cannot save them. God cannot make you love Him, because that isn't love.
He did. Every culture throughout the world, throughout history, has believed in a creation myth. Evolution is a modern invention that Darwin himself renounced. (inb4 DEBOONKED! If he hated Christianity so much, why did he allow a local church to hold meetings on his property? Who knows, who cares, evolution is a theory being pushed as a law of nature when it very clearly violates those same laws of nature. Point out a benificial mutation that occurred naturally, explain how the second law of thermodynamics applies to everything in the universe except the theory of evolution, explain how we evolved from primordial ooze through a comically long period of mutations and somehow, magically, mutually evolved entire male and female reproductive systems in order to propigate the species. /rant) Here's where I'm really going to piss people off. Where did Jesus go when he died? In Luke 23:43 he tells the thief on the cross that he would join him in paradise. Not heaven. Paradise. In Matthew 12:40 - "...so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." What'd He do there? In I Peter 3:18-20 -
I suspect that protestants have gotten it wrong, that purgatory and it's associated tiers do exist, and that no man has been judged and sent to either Heaven or hell until God sits upon the throne of judgement as declared in Revelation. Furthermore, since Jesus went to preach to those "spirits in prison" that it is not necessarily too late for those that are dead who died while not knowing the Gospel. Am I right? I dunno. We'll find out when we get there. Plz no bully.
I'll reply to this with part 2...
*Part 2 (of 2) of the bookpost titled, "Watch a Retard Offend Not Nearly Enough Denomenations"
I think the Bible is quite clear about this. There is a verse somewhere (I can't remember the reference) that talks about how a husband is responsible for the spirit of his wife, and that if he commands her to sin, she is to do it, but God will hold him responsible for it. There are many verses throughout the New Testament (I Timothy, Ephesians, etc) that talk about how a man is build up his family's spiritual health as God does for the church. Likewise, false teachers are warned against and condemned numerous times. A few highlights...
Matthew 7:15-16 -
II Peter 2 -
So we see that God not only condemns leading others astray, but hates them for it, and will punish them for it. Sorta fits the whole "God is just" thing, right? It also explains why "just popping out of existence" is not a worthy solution. If people knew you existed, and hated you so much that they tried to turn those who loved you against you, would you not punish them? Would you not hate them? If your wife left you for Tyrone, and then told your kids lies about you, how would you feel? God is not the one handing out the false information.
As far as "Mere Christianity" goes, my argument there would be that you are listening to a man's interpretation of God's message, which, though his intentions may be good, are not divine. Which is exactly what I would say about this book I've written to you. I hope it helps you, and while I don't have many answers, I'll always welcome searching for them with you.
sigh bend over, I'm working on another bookpost. I think this one will manage to piss off everyone I didn't cover the first time around. Gonna break it up into more bite-sized chunks this time. This post, however, has a different purpose.
I am not a pastor. I am a father and husband about your age. I am ill equipped to answer your existential questions, as it's not something I've ever struggled with. I can, however, say this. I was doing other stuff, just checked in on tdw while I was taking a break. Came across your screed and was impressed, as few seem to have mastered the wall of text skill as I have, so I read. Then I had to answer. Why? I don't know. I half suspect you're an athiest laughing your ass off at me as I struggle to answer some of this. I don't care. You see, what you are missing, the key part of it, is that you are worth it. That doesn't make sense, you say. Why would I care, I don't know you, will probly never talk to you again after this thread, so what does it matter? It matters because I love God, God has commanded us to love one another as brothers, and He has told us that He desires a relationship with us, with you. God did not come down and tell me to write this (no doubt mildly heretical) wall of text, yet I'm still writing it because I think He wants me to. I could stop. I could go back to my work. (kinda want to, it was interesting) But I won't, because all of it, hell, punishment, the pain of life, is worth enduring for the chance at a relationship with you. When you finally find your answers (and believe it or not, sometimes the answer "there is no answer" becomes acceptable) and develop a relationship with God in this life and the next, it will all have been worth it. Anyway...
This is because you are divorced from your food. If you'd ever had to raise something from birth, fed it, nurtured it, cared for it's every need, and then butchered it to feed your family you would understand that you absolutely can love something you have to kill. I can't say I loved all the fish I've caught over the years, but my animals? Them I loved.
No, I said what I meant. I have issue understanding how we aren't irrelevant to Him. Why does He care about me? I don't know, I just know that He says he does, and I've chosen to take it on faith that He's telling the truth, even though if I were in his position, I don't know that I would see us as more than pets. I'm projecting my thoughts and feelings onto Him, even though He says otherwise. Hope that makes sense. I love my pets, but I love my children far more. I just don't get it. However, 'faith' is enough of an answer for me in this case that I don't feel compelled to seek the answer.
I'm going to try and answer this one here one way, and in another post a different way. I think you are atributing those on the wrong party. I believe you are absolutely correct in that "He can change them...or whatever He wants." So lets say He does. How long before someone cries foul about changing the goal posts, or 'rules for thee but not for me'? If a god was to do this, would he be worthy of the title? Isn't that at least part of the issue plagueing our country right now? Would you follow a god that did that? Therefore he 'must' uphold justice and the rules He created, not because He must, but because He loves us, and wants to be loved by us. In other words, it's for our sake alone that He has to do anything, and He only chose to do any of it because to Him we are worth the trouble. (although I sure as hell don't understand why.)
I see no fault in your logic. If evil didn't exist, how would you know what good is? How would you define it? recognize it? appreciate it? So too with love, honor, etc.
The rest of your post I'll adress in another of mine. Gotta look up some stuff to make sure I get it all right. It'll be a while.
Lots of good questions here. You clearly have a passion for analysis. Often those questions can be answered by asking God to give you the answer.
It's true. Things like this do happen, and it SUCKS but it helps us to lean into Him and trust. In that, we come out of it stronger, wiser, more willing to trust next time and you realize in hindsight most times that you are better off now than before. And man, sometimes it takes years to happen, but it does happen.
See, now that’s where it gets interesting. Once you give God a hand in your life, he moves to strip away what isn’t beneficial and for your best. That’s what trusting God is all about. You have heard, no doubt, “let go and let God”? It’s not easy to do, but your life will become infinitely better as a result. I’ve been homeless, I had a 12-year long drug habit, have two years I don’t remember, and had several brushes with death, jail, and a couple of other difficulties. My life is so much better now, and, in retrospect, I am grateful that all that happened because it made me who I am. Sometimes you can’t see it until you are on the other side. God is trying to get your attention. Let him. And, no matter your choice, He will still love and cherish you and want you to be with him. Blessings to you.
You're a lot closer to the truth than you realize. What you're trying to do is reconcile church dogma as though it were more important than getting to know the One and True God. How much of the Bible have you read without falling back on the interpretation or guidance of another human? Some passages can be very cryptic, usually the prophetic ones, and the histories and genealogies can be very dry, but most of His wisdom is there clear as day, for any who have faith enough to read it with an open heart and trust His meaning.
God wrote the very definition of love into the fabric of the universe, and yet He is also a jealous, vengeful God. While He always searches for the lost sheep, hoping they will return to Him, in the end He obviously favors those who love Him. His love has its limits (or should I say conditions) otherwise like you say, why would there be such a thing as Hell? (which tbh as far as I've been able to make sense of it, is reserved for the worst of the fallen ones; most sinful souls will get the "lesser" fate of destruction.) He is our creator. He makes the rules. They are beyond our comprehension without Him.
Which leads onto the point I think you were trying to argue, that a father would not allow his son to stab a needle fill of heroin into his arm right in front of him. That analogy is a little misrepresentative of the situation, though. Most sinners hide away from God. They run as best they can and do their deeds in "darkness", and God cannot abide the presence of sinners in the first place. Sin cannot abide the presence of God, either. Is it love to control your son's every move? And furthermore, it's a two-way street: how is the son proving his faith and love in return if he does not listen to his Father?
Another thing to chew on.... When God saw the evil that has multiplied on the face of antediluvian Earth, scripture said he regretted ever making mankind because it hurt Him so to see such abominations and degeneracy. Regretted. That's a powerful word. He also is shown to change His mind depending on what men choose to do, for example turning His wrath away from Nineveh when the city repented, even after having Jonah prophesy its destruction. So no, God has not already literally seen everything that will come to pass, He is going through time just as we are, although he would certainly experience it differently. Time is time, not another dimension; it affects and progresses. Besides, He is powerful enough to MAKE His will come to pass, He doesn't necessarily need to be a time-traveller. And He is intelligent enough to see patterns and likelihoods in His own Creation like nobody else ever could.
I'm sorry to say your comment was so long that I did start skimming halfway through, but I also noticed you really are trying to reconcile a human view of what love is, almost a nihilistic, Marxist, "love every snowflake no matter what they do and yet control their every action because they're useless and evil and can't be trusted", with the realism that is God's wisdom. Good and evil both exist. God can be both caring and full of retribution for the wicked. He has had to be pleaded with a number of times, to avoid things like destroying the world and starting over from scratch, for the sake of sparing those who DO love Him. Think of it as one great experiment, if you have to. But he still is there and hoping you can learn to love Him too.
Not Op, But you should read Mere Christianity by CS Lewis. I've been a christian my whole life and it cleared some stuff up for me.
It was a lecture post-world war 2 given by CS Lewis to the people of britain on the BBC. It is a summary of what us christians are wanting to achieve. Who Christ was, who God is. It's an incredible book. Highly recommend (:
Sorry I didn't read the whole post! Late Night TD.WIN browsing
I'm going to read this back over after work!
Fellow Brother in Christ here, Deacon, chorister, and missionary. DM me if you need counseling; ladies and gents.
You’re questions are totally valid and thanks for asking them - it’s an important thing to talk about right?? I’ll start by saying you’re right - I cannot answer for Gods plan and I wouldn’t want to because I’m not God (shocker!). But! When the temple was being used by criminals and money changers - using God for profit what did Jesus do? Did he turn the other cheek? Or did he fashion a while and drive the people out because what they were doing was wrong?
I’m not advocating this approach but to simply say that we must be meek and mild if we are to be Christians is false. Christ was the ultimate rebel standing up to a corrupt political and religious system and bringing hope the broken people - not the kings and queens.
Jesus came with a sword (see Matthew)
he had a big project, trying to clean shit up
Hell man, I've been considering going back to church when all this shit is over so I can hang out with Patriots and carry on the foundations of western philosophy that got us here. Even if I don't take everything in the bible as historical fact, the morality is solid.
Whether the libshits want to admit it or not, this is a Christian country that was founded by Christians. We allow freedom of all religions, however it shouldn't be forgotten which religion we draw much of our doctrine from.
Why wait?
Amen! I agree that God has a plan, but we also need to actively play our roles. We shouldn't be asking God to guide our footsteps if we aren't willing to move our feet. God Bless ALL you Pedes and your families.
I used to identify as agnostic or even a bit atheist, but after seeing what people fill their void with in place of God it has driven me back to the Church. I like the parables from the bible and really think we need a moral compass to be able to keep people together. The church makes families gathers on Sunday and creates communities. God bless.
God loves all his children!
I have not been religious for most of my life, I went to church as a kid but just kind of stopped going. I would argue with people about abortion, and they'd call me a Jesus freak or whatever, but I'd reply that I just think murdering babies is wrong. You shouldn't need any religion to figure that out. If there is a hell, theres a special place for someone that would do that to their own child. I also realize that this country was built on Christian values, and that without Christianity we would not have America. I'm starting to believe also that Donald Trump was chosen by God to root out the evil in the modern world, and there may be divine purpose. I see the way all that is evil attacks him and our values relentlessly. Any other man would have withered under the firestorm, but he pressed on. After 20 years without God, I'm starting to read the Bible again. I didn't use to believe in good and evil, just men with free will. But the left, the globalists, the political elite are certainly evil. They thrive on misery. I am praying for Donald Trump, and for all of you. Hopefully I can find the relationship with God I haven't had for so long.
God’s just been waiting for you to turn back around. Relationship ready and willing! Love intact, ready to grant you Peace through Faith. I’ve really been enjoying the renewed daily joy. Every day is Christmas Eve level of anticipation. Maybe Jesus will return for us today?! If not what amazing thing will God do today! There is no shame or condemnation for those who love God and repent. Glad to have you back :)
Thank you frend. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Good shit.
<3 YaY <3
Tearing up!! Thank you, I pray God blesses you and yours!
Kek will deliver for us just like he did in 2016. You should not rely on a religion that plays to both sides.
God dislikes filthy commies.
Kek is my god
I shall say ten Hail MAGAs in his honor
Bruh lmao
Keep in mind, that plan could be 7 years of tribulation, complete with beheadings, a “Mark” you have to have in order to travel, buy, or sell, and a host of plagues. It’s not all rainbows. And even the rainbow only came out after an extinction level event.
Interesting comment. I think this has been a precursor to what’s to come. We see that in the end days we will have mass killings of 40% of the WORLD. Look what we have given up overnight when 150K people have died in our country.
I don’t mean to say anyone should die obviously but it is clear how willingly people will give up their lives and rights for “security”. Time to get ready and wake up! Jesus is coming.
Bless you, based Jesus merchant! You're a faithful Christian and Patriot!
God is still in charge.
And will be forever and ever. Amen! :)
I have a question. What does the Bible say about sodomites and women in leadership roles?
Doesn't speak favorably about the former--it is a violation of God's Law (cf. Romans 1)--and as for the latter women cannot be elders and thus cannot teach men.
That’s actually a good question actually and something that is talked about pretty often!
To be clear - are you asking sodomy specifically for homosexuality? I don’t want to assume your position but I want to make sure we have a relationship dialogue and not a “Gotchya” type of thing.
Women in leadership roles is also something you seem to have made up your mind about - and that’s fine- but be open to the idea that maybe you don’t have the right idea of what’s that text means in the original Greek.
Well, originally I had intended sodomy to refer to the Leviticus 20:13 version, “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination...” However, you seem to be implying that there's much more to it than that. My only knowledge that might pertain to sodomy between a man and woman is via Romans 1:26, "...for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:” Is there more to it than that?
Of course. I've been going to church virtually my entire life. How can you go about your daily life without preconcieved notions about how things work? If you don't challenge those notions, how can you grow? In particular, I find those two questions to be an excellent bellwether to find out if someone that would deign to 'teach' or 'lead' others is going to preach the Bible as it is written, as they wish it was written, or if they will flat out make things up to try and 'convert' others. I haven't quite made up my mind about you. I suppose that depends on where you want to go with your discussion into the septuagint. Should I assume you are divining your insights into the ancient greek via hermeneutics? (As I would, I haven't learned ancient greek yet, just some latin.)
I find it interesting that you hedged against outright saying your position, and instead suggested that I don't have the right idea of what the ancient greek means. I, however, have no qualms stating my position. I do not believe that women are intended to hold leadership positions in the church, nor do I base that opinion on a single verse.
I have no problem stating my thoughts and positions on those things. I think that sodomy- like all sexual actions- is a choice. Nobody forces anyone else to engage in sexual activity. But that particular expression I do believe is wrong. I also think that women are better suited and more capable of doing more important things within the community than leading a church.
There’s nothing wrong with asking questions but when the original idea was “trust God” and than it becomes “well what about THIS!” It just seems a little insincere
I see. So it's insincere to trust God if you also have to adhere to the parts you don't like. Sounds a little backwards. Why should I trust someone who isn't committed to the whole of what God teaches? Where does it stop? What if another of his teachings becomes unfavorable later on, shall we omit, alter, or otherwise attack those teachings too? "All sexual actions" are a choice, so is murder. I can choose to murder someone, so is it ok then? Naturally, you are going to say, "the other party doesn't consent to being killed" and that isn't always true, as evidenced by Dr. Kevorkian. He chose to kill, they chose death, is it a sin?
Answer: sodomy no. Women only in charge of women.
All I keep repeating to myself during all of this is the Lord will provide. Everything else is tolerable after that.
He always has and always will!
“And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them.” Romans 8:28 NLT
So often the immediate feels nearly unbearable. It is not until after the event, looking back that we see the purpose for the pain. The way God used the pain for His good. I think this will be the case with the election. Praying that means a DT overtaking the dark evil thieves, and banking on the bless Israel verses. Here’s to Hope.
icymi: The Benefits of Belief https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMDKigUbcJo
I was raised religious (although not Christian) and went through my edgy atheist phase in college/mid-20s. I've been drifting back towards God in recent years but all this nonsense in 2020 has really accelerated me down that path.
Gotta be honest, still feel a little lost. But I also feel like I'm on some kind of numinous path
Here’s the thing, it’s OK to feel lost! You might not see it now but the fact that you’re willing to seek answers and talk is God calling you back. Keep looking for answers and the truth and you’ll find it.
A good book/movie is “The Case for Christ” by Lee Strobel. He was an atheist journalist who set out to destroy Christianity and after years of looking at the evidence he as baptized and now helps people know the Truth and the truth is Jesus.
I’d be happy to send you my copy or a copy of his book - it helped me a lot! As a very evidence based person! Praying for you, keep searching!
Oh did he tell you this himself? How luck of you!
There is actually a publicly accessible book... if you’re a reader it’s available for you too. Often free. How lucky of you!
I'm not religious but if God has a plan, it can only play out through us. The country can't be saved by anyone but us, evil wants us sitting around letting the pedos take over.
Even if someone is an atheist or agnostic, we can at least agree that there is widespread evil in the world- especially the democrat party in the US. So, if we all agree that lying, cheating, stealing is immoral and evil, then we agree that the opposite of that is good- that means good exists.
People are born with a sense of right and wrong- morals. We know it to be true, because of guilt. When even a tiny child does something 'wrong' they act and look guilty.
The democrat party is pro-death to babies. They claim to be pro-environment, pro-animal, and will fine and jail you if you harm an unborn animal, like an eagle egg, but if you mass-murder babies by the millions, they love it and want to fund it and find it empowering. This is sick and evil.
So, people in the US are not just engaged in political and culture war, but spiritual war. People don't agree with what the truth is. Some willingly blind themselves, because they don't want the truth to be their truth. And they do the evil they claim to be against. We see people being deceived all around us and in doing so they are the ones carrying out the evil and doing the work of satan. Hitler carried out widespread evil by deceiving the masses with propaganda- and we see the left doing the same today, calling conservative good people 'nazis' and 'terrorists' meanwhile they are the ones in black hoodies breaking windows, looting, and burning cars in the streets.
If there was ever a time in our own country to see good and evil - it’s now. Thank you for your insight, you’re a patriot!
It not that hard to not be an asshole to cristians
People keep saying were extremist because we wont change our minds about trump or the left
But i can say thats not true i just to be a full blown anti cristian like sam harris and richart dawking But i change my mind for a simpel reason They were hypocrits not every religion is equal Some are worse than others And i am not willing to fool my self and say that the western world is not build on cristian morals and is better because of it
And if i am wrong and there is a god i let him decide if i can go to heaven by my actions on this world You can call your self a christian and be a bad one And you can by a non beliver but live as a good christian
edit: I removed this comment. It was uncalled for. I apologise to UneducatedRedart, Trumpularr, and everyone else it offended.
That’s not what I’m saying brother. There is a time to fight - I’m just saying that putting trust in any government (on any level) is wrong. Love the country, not the government.
I don't want to fight anyone, no civilised person does. The waiting.... The enemy is using this against us all. We are all guilty of complacency.
Christianity has been subverted and attacked for the entirety of it's existance. I do not believe it was God's intent for us to be pacifists, but to fight evil when peace is no longer an option. I will leave you with a few examples of what I mean, if you'd like to talk more about it, I'd love to.
I Corinthians 6:9:
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8:
Psalms 18:32-40:
Really though, all of Psalms 18 is magnificent. And there are more, so many more.
Ecclesiastes was my most memorable in the book. I apologise too for my comment. You didn't deserve that.
Thank you, I certainly appreciate the sentiment. That said, I'd rather you didn't. You stated what you believed. I've stated what I believe. Through discussion, and through challenging our beliefs we become better people. Our culture today has taken on this cycle of offense and apology that has grown into a cancerous blight on the world. I reject that notion outright, it is through struggle in all it's forms that make us who we are. Do I deserve comments that challenge my religion or faith? Absolutely, as if I cannot defend against those comments then my religion or faith is worthless and false.
Thank you too. We can take back what we say via delete, but it's never forgotten. When I get amped I type things without consequence. I need to work on that. You, and others have brought that to my attention. This was a good "time-out" for me...again Thanks!