It’s the most important. What I’m worried about big picture is that we don’t currently have the organization in place to do this. I feel like we’re all waiting on this green light or for someone to say “it’s on” and I’m not sure if or when that will happen. Hopefully there’s groups of well connected people already getting ready to make big moves
That's the biggest issue. There's no central organization, no leadership, and no strategy. There no really GOOD ways of organizing either. You can't start recruiting on social media, which is the easiest way to reach out to large groups (for the time being), and very few have stuff like short wave radios.
There are quite a few militia groups, and organizations like the Proud Boys across the country, but they are pretty much all autonomous, with little to no intercommunication. I'm sure there are some groups OUT there, but how many? I'm sure people would seek out groups if shit went down, but how could you know who to trust?
This is the biggest question in my book, and one that I don't have the answer for. Perhaps it will just be organic? Look at the million maga march, look at all the Trump rallies across the country. Perhaps when that final straw actually breaks the camel's back, people will just start rallying together. It's already happening, people are even outside Clinton's house, and as this stuff goes through the court, I'm sure people will already be gathered in many places. From that point all it takes is that "shot heard around the world", whatever it may end up being, and I think it may be on at that point.
Lone wolves are the biggest threat, ignore small targets and only put big fish between the sights. No combat with underlings unless absolutely necessary. March on those orders, spread the word.
My answer to this has just been trying to get to know the people in my neighborhood and actually reaching out to the proud boys in my area and seeing what they’re about (haven’t met them yet so we’ll see, should be soon) the big worry is that trying to organize on your own seems like asking to be locked up. I have to assume that there are groups of more extreme individuals who are and have been ready for this for quite some time. I do know that someone will step up and do it. Who? Who knows.
Thank you! We need to be targeting ASSETS. These include politicians and media members of high profile. Public executions. They need to SEE THE TRUTH. And soon there will only be one way of doing that.
I am not looking forward to it. Day by day it looks like war is more inevitable. But I have seen war and what it does to a country. If we go to war, no matter who wins it means it will take at least a generation to get back to where we are now. Probably longer than that.
If you think Covid shutdowns were bad, wait until we have a civil war. We will completely destroy our economy doing it. I'm not saying there isn't a time for it, and that time may be coming soon, and if it does as a Patriot and a veteran, I will surely fight. What I am saying is, we'd better be damned fucking sure it is that time. Because we will all pay a high cost no matter what if we commit to that.
100%
What I know is this, when the time comes... none of us will wonder if it’s that’s time.
It will be clear to all of us, we will need zero input from others, we will know we must grab our gear and go to where we are needed.
It’s a horrible thought to leave your wife and children behind, potentially behind enemy lines.
But I have to disagree with the idea that we will leave our wife and children. If we have a civil war in this country, the way it is now, you had better take your wife and children with you. Nowhere will be safe.
That is the biggest issue. Not to mention what happens to a divided country if other powers decide to invade. Strategy is necessary and we must use this site to do it.
Exactly. We should avoid a civil war at all costs. America has too many enemies who would love to pounce in that situation or fund our enemies. Hopefully we can use the means we have to crush them through the systems we already have in place (legally).
I've read that most of the military who protect our borders will not leave their watch posts. I'm not worried about foreign powers taking advantage of that situation.
My wife and I have been married 2 years. I am hesitant to have children because I don’t want to have to leave them behind if conflict breaks out.
The thought of having to leave behind my wife and do what must be done is hard enough. I don’t want children of mine to have to grown up in a generation of struggle. I already struggled getting through college and getting started during the 2008 financial crash. Couldn’t get a job, backbreaking student loans, not eating some weeks because I couldn’t afford it. I still made it though, but it was tough. I don’t want to bring children into a world tougher than that.
I tell people I know about a thought I read on a site like this one. The person was expressing their opinion on why the younger generations of today are so eager to start a conflict of some sort. The person's opinion was something like this: the younger generations of today have grown up on Marvel movies, comic books, and video games. In these mediums, heroes vanquish the bad guys and things like war are a righteous, and temporary, sort of Hell. But, as the person noted, the real world is not like a Hollywood movie or video game. War, is Hell. The reality won't hit these Antifa people or the CHAZ occupiers until the fire is at their doorstep and consuming the world around them. But, you are definitely correct that we better be damn sure it's the time. It's a bell that cannot be un-rung.
I've made several speeches to that effect. Could have been me. I am an old man, and yes war is hell. You really don't understand that until you are tossed into it.
And we have all these Billy Badasses who own a gun and think "yeah let me at 'em, I'll fix all of this in a week". Then they will be wondering how to get food after that week. Sure, they killed the bad guys but nothing is moving. All the stores are closed. Work says to stay home and eventually work says "adios" because they are facing bankruptcy because the only thing that drives the American economy is the fact we are so stable. And the Dollar itself collapses when the rest of the world sees we aren't stable anymore.
If we have to go into war to preserve this nation, I'll do it. But the downstream effects of that are going to be brutal.
The world isn't going to take a time-out to wait for the US to get its shit together. If we go into civil war, then it will take decades to recover. Period.
Yeah, in many ways I feel like it is basically necessary at this point. However, to the people thinking we need a purge to take out the trash, and then we can all continue on our merry way, it's not as simple as take out the commies and next year it will be a sunshine, roses, and happiness, with a booming economy. Things will be FOREVER changed from that point on, and it will be many years to get back to a semblance or normalcy. I doubt it will get to a point where our country will look like a war torn 3rd world nation, but it sure won't look like it does currently. It will be MUCH more devastating to the economy and small businesses than any lockdown.
There will be small pockets of resistance that will hang on for years to come and fights will continue to break out from time to time, continuing for a while. Even after most of it's over, I believe that we will continue to see escalated levels of violence and crime until it finally drops off, or is eliminated.
I was so disappointed when i found out verhoeven was such a cuck. He intended to make this movie as a parody of rightwingers, he said the book made him uncomfortable. But atleast he failed in that aspect. I like the movie and i need to finish the book
He has a very odd sense of humor, watch the original Robocop as a dark comedy and it fits well. Maybe he thought he was making fun of rightwingers. Its also a possibility hes a DINO, not too many of those if they exist. Either way it's a good movie and i like it.
Their weapons were taken from them. That quickly led to widespread abuse, starvation, and economic collapse. This is their way. No human should ever give up their right to self-defense.
Yup, I have multiple safe places to go when the shit hits the fan. Some are close and some are far, but all are far from communist headquarters blue cities. I do need to lay in some extra water though... It's surprising how much water you need.
Except we're well aware of when the time to act is. We're about to be at the jury box and if that fails, we go straight to the ammo box. The only box left after that is the pine box and I don't plan on seeing that in 2021
Yeah, but Eric Swallowswell is an idiot. Even other leftists ignore him.
It will be awful, that is correct. But there are many, many more of us than there are of them. Most leftists are scared of guns and don't have any, much less know how to use them. Most Antifa don't know how to use them either; they mostly train on how to pour water on people and hit them with non-conventional bludgeons like bike locks. The police are ALL on our side at this point. It will be sad to go to war, but we will win.
We've sure as hell documented plenty but with very little results. I have great faith that we will find our way without war. But we can never allow ourselves to be bled enough to be conquered.
I have no issue with fighting and killing these fucks. My concern is when to stop killing when we run out of them as i'm not quite sure what all these 3 letter agencies are for if theyve each played a role in allowing this commie shit to spread across our land.
USE SOCIAL MEDIA to crush SJW businesses, Schools, and any one that has spoken out against TRUMP. MAKE IT COST THEM. PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS. GO WOKE, GO BROKE. NBA, NFL, AFL, baseball, all are getting a taste of not supporting them. Need to have businesses FEAR FOR THEIR LIFEBLOOD BUSINESS if they cross a Trumper MAGA person. Hell, have some fun, go to a business that is pro Biden or just anti trump and ask a trump question, then leave. In the service industry like food, hotel, entertainment and such THEY ARE HYPERSENSITIVE TO REJECTION FOR ANY REASON. Most worry you will tell your friends. Hell, tell your friends you got bad service at ___________________ and put their business out of commission. FEAR IS WHAT THEY DO TO YOU. TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY. MAKE THEIR DREAMS DIE. No pain No gain. This is war. You think it will go back to normal tomorrow, think again. We need to get laws fixed and your congressman/women and senators need to be fearing for their re-election scam so get them to vote your way. Organize your friends like you did for Trump and take credit for every victory you get. Easy victories in the schools and grocery stores. Target small liberal businesses. If they go broke they can not contribute to "green causes". If you find non mask stores then go there first. Support Support Support your MAGA Pebes. This is our new after action Report and future direction until we can get our country back.
OP: That was my gut feeling on November 4th when I realised there was something very dirty afoot. This is the crisis of the Republic and indeed of the Western world.
I have made peace with the fact that war is imminent.
Media and politicians first, don't waste your time with any form of "resistance" from the Semi Concious Liberation Army.
The "at the same time" is actually very important.
It’s the most important. What I’m worried about big picture is that we don’t currently have the organization in place to do this. I feel like we’re all waiting on this green light or for someone to say “it’s on” and I’m not sure if or when that will happen. Hopefully there’s groups of well connected people already getting ready to make big moves
That's the biggest issue. There's no central organization, no leadership, and no strategy. There no really GOOD ways of organizing either. You can't start recruiting on social media, which is the easiest way to reach out to large groups (for the time being), and very few have stuff like short wave radios.
There are quite a few militia groups, and organizations like the Proud Boys across the country, but they are pretty much all autonomous, with little to no intercommunication. I'm sure there are some groups OUT there, but how many? I'm sure people would seek out groups if shit went down, but how could you know who to trust?
This is the biggest question in my book, and one that I don't have the answer for. Perhaps it will just be organic? Look at the million maga march, look at all the Trump rallies across the country. Perhaps when that final straw actually breaks the camel's back, people will just start rallying together. It's already happening, people are even outside Clinton's house, and as this stuff goes through the court, I'm sure people will already be gathered in many places. From that point all it takes is that "shot heard around the world", whatever it may end up being, and I think it may be on at that point.
Lone wolves are the biggest threat, ignore small targets and only put big fish between the sights. No combat with underlings unless absolutely necessary. March on those orders, spread the word.
My answer to this has just been trying to get to know the people in my neighborhood and actually reaching out to the proud boys in my area and seeing what they’re about (haven’t met them yet so we’ll see, should be soon) the big worry is that trying to organize on your own seems like asking to be locked up. I have to assume that there are groups of more extreme individuals who are and have been ready for this for quite some time. I do know that someone will step up and do it. Who? Who knows.
We can gather together at the Home Depots.
Thank you! We need to be targeting ASSETS. These include politicians and media members of high profile. Public executions. They need to SEE THE TRUTH. And soon there will only be one way of doing that.
Physical infrastructure too. Media outlets can't poison minds if they can't publish anything.
Deep State.
Reality check, war is hell.
"I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace." - Thomas Paine
I know.
Without war, we'd be speaking German.
Thank god we saved the communists so we weren’t speaking German!
I am not looking forward to it. Day by day it looks like war is more inevitable. But I have seen war and what it does to a country. If we go to war, no matter who wins it means it will take at least a generation to get back to where we are now. Probably longer than that.
If you think Covid shutdowns were bad, wait until we have a civil war. We will completely destroy our economy doing it. I'm not saying there isn't a time for it, and that time may be coming soon, and if it does as a Patriot and a veteran, I will surely fight. What I am saying is, we'd better be damned fucking sure it is that time. Because we will all pay a high cost no matter what if we commit to that.
100% What I know is this, when the time comes... none of us will wonder if it’s that’s time. It will be clear to all of us, we will need zero input from others, we will know we must grab our gear and go to where we are needed.
It’s a horrible thought to leave your wife and children behind, potentially behind enemy lines.
None of this will be pleasant.
I agree with you brother. We will know.
But I have to disagree with the idea that we will leave our wife and children. If we have a civil war in this country, the way it is now, you had better take your wife and children with you. Nowhere will be safe.
That is the biggest issue. Not to mention what happens to a divided country if other powers decide to invade. Strategy is necessary and we must use this site to do it.
Exactly. We should avoid a civil war at all costs. America has too many enemies who would love to pounce in that situation or fund our enemies. Hopefully we can use the means we have to crush them through the systems we already have in place (legally).
I've read that most of the military who protect our borders will not leave their watch posts. I'm not worried about foreign powers taking advantage of that situation.
My wife and I have been married 2 years. I am hesitant to have children because I don’t want to have to leave them behind if conflict breaks out.
The thought of having to leave behind my wife and do what must be done is hard enough. I don’t want children of mine to have to grown up in a generation of struggle. I already struggled getting through college and getting started during the 2008 financial crash. Couldn’t get a job, backbreaking student loans, not eating some weeks because I couldn’t afford it. I still made it though, but it was tough. I don’t want to bring children into a world tougher than that.
I tell people I know about a thought I read on a site like this one. The person was expressing their opinion on why the younger generations of today are so eager to start a conflict of some sort. The person's opinion was something like this: the younger generations of today have grown up on Marvel movies, comic books, and video games. In these mediums, heroes vanquish the bad guys and things like war are a righteous, and temporary, sort of Hell. But, as the person noted, the real world is not like a Hollywood movie or video game. War, is Hell. The reality won't hit these Antifa people or the CHAZ occupiers until the fire is at their doorstep and consuming the world around them. But, you are definitely correct that we better be damn sure it's the time. It's a bell that cannot be un-rung.
I've made several speeches to that effect. Could have been me. I am an old man, and yes war is hell. You really don't understand that until you are tossed into it.
And we have all these Billy Badasses who own a gun and think "yeah let me at 'em, I'll fix all of this in a week". Then they will be wondering how to get food after that week. Sure, they killed the bad guys but nothing is moving. All the stores are closed. Work says to stay home and eventually work says "adios" because they are facing bankruptcy because the only thing that drives the American economy is the fact we are so stable. And the Dollar itself collapses when the rest of the world sees we aren't stable anymore.
If we have to go into war to preserve this nation, I'll do it. But the downstream effects of that are going to be brutal.
The world isn't going to take a time-out to wait for the US to get its shit together. If we go into civil war, then it will take decades to recover. Period.
Yeah, in many ways I feel like it is basically necessary at this point. However, to the people thinking we need a purge to take out the trash, and then we can all continue on our merry way, it's not as simple as take out the commies and next year it will be a sunshine, roses, and happiness, with a booming economy. Things will be FOREVER changed from that point on, and it will be many years to get back to a semblance or normalcy. I doubt it will get to a point where our country will look like a war torn 3rd world nation, but it sure won't look like it does currently. It will be MUCH more devastating to the economy and small businesses than any lockdown.
There will be small pockets of resistance that will hang on for years to come and fights will continue to break out from time to time, continuing for a while. Even after most of it's over, I believe that we will continue to see escalated levels of violence and crime until it finally drops off, or is eliminated.
From a Venezuelan who was a teen during their leftist takeover, and shes hot if that helps
https://youtu.be/QDG6q_Ba2cc
She is hot, it helped.
Ambush is murder, and murder is fun😃😄
Trump wins without war. Watch.
I was so disappointed when i found out verhoeven was such a cuck. He intended to make this movie as a parody of rightwingers, he said the book made him uncomfortable. But atleast he failed in that aspect. I like the movie and i need to finish the book
He has a very odd sense of humor, watch the original Robocop as a dark comedy and it fits well. Maybe he thought he was making fun of rightwingers. Its also a possibility hes a DINO, not too many of those if they exist. Either way it's a good movie and i like it.
Just trying to help for future reference as it took me a minute to figure out what you meant... it is "voila" a french word meaning "there it is"
Say when.
Jefferson said the tree of liberty would need to be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If it's time, it is time. So be it.
The left will soon see how many people are willing to give their lives to stop them from taking power.
We’ll kill them before they destroy everything. LONG LIVE AMERICA 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
^THIS^
Same. I finally went blackpilled on the whole thing cuz it seemed completely hopeless to change course. Then here came Trump!
Did the Venezuelan people have a 2nd Amendment?
Their weapons were taken from them. That quickly led to widespread abuse, starvation, and economic collapse. This is their way. No human should ever give up their right to self-defense.
What good are weapons if all that's needed is stay at home orders?
Has it been 15 days to slow the spread yet?
My math adds the days up to around 240.
15 days my ass.
FIRA FAUCI
Start speaking to the guys at the range, to gun shop owners.
shall NOT be infringed.
Bought a flamethrower today (not this one but close). Does that count?
Works great for dispersing crowds,
Is that legal? Wtf is it even considered? Its not a firearm. Is it a destructive device?
I NEVER knew you could just buy flamethrowers...
Extended range torch is the technical name I believe... :)
Yup, I have multiple safe places to go when the shit hits the fan. Some are close and some are far, but all are far from communist headquarters blue cities. I do need to lay in some extra water though... It's surprising how much water you need.
Omg..i feel like im in a movie where i know the ending but i feel helpless until something big drops soon.
Except we're well aware of when the time to act is. We're about to be at the jury box and if that fails, we go straight to the ammo box. The only box left after that is the pine box and I don't plan on seeing that in 2021
Nothing can stop a civil war at this point (Except Jesus returning...in which case the Democrats would nuke him)
Yeah, but Eric Swallowswell is an idiot. Even other leftists ignore him.
It will be awful, that is correct. But there are many, many more of us than there are of them. Most leftists are scared of guns and don't have any, much less know how to use them. Most Antifa don't know how to use them either; they mostly train on how to pour water on people and hit them with non-conventional bludgeons like bike locks. The police are ALL on our side at this point. It will be sad to go to war, but we will win.
We've sure as hell documented plenty but with very little results. I have great faith that we will find our way without war. But we can never allow ourselves to be bled enough to be conquered.
They need to know the threat of civil war is real, or there is no bargaining with these brown shirts
We are awake
We are organized
We have weapons.
Come and take it
I think he would.
But even if he didn't, we still have a way to communicate with each other, which is what I was more talking about.
I have no issue with fighting and killing these fucks. My concern is when to stop killing when we run out of them as i'm not quite sure what all these 3 letter agencies are for if theyve each played a role in allowing this commie shit to spread across our land.
USE SOCIAL MEDIA to crush SJW businesses, Schools, and any one that has spoken out against TRUMP. MAKE IT COST THEM. PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS. GO WOKE, GO BROKE. NBA, NFL, AFL, baseball, all are getting a taste of not supporting them. Need to have businesses FEAR FOR THEIR LIFEBLOOD BUSINESS if they cross a Trumper MAGA person. Hell, have some fun, go to a business that is pro Biden or just anti trump and ask a trump question, then leave. In the service industry like food, hotel, entertainment and such THEY ARE HYPERSENSITIVE TO REJECTION FOR ANY REASON. Most worry you will tell your friends. Hell, tell your friends you got bad service at ___________________ and put their business out of commission. FEAR IS WHAT THEY DO TO YOU. TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY. MAKE THEIR DREAMS DIE. No pain No gain. This is war. You think it will go back to normal tomorrow, think again. We need to get laws fixed and your congressman/women and senators need to be fearing for their re-election scam so get them to vote your way. Organize your friends like you did for Trump and take credit for every victory you get. Easy victories in the schools and grocery stores. Target small liberal businesses. If they go broke they can not contribute to "green causes". If you find non mask stores then go there first. Support Support Support your MAGA Pebes. This is our new after action Report and future direction until we can get our country back.
WWG1WGA
I'm ready, wish I had a plate carrier but I can fashion some steel plates and ceramic tiles to at least stop a .45acp
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OP: That was my gut feeling on November 4th when I realised there was something very dirty afoot. This is the crisis of the Republic and indeed of the Western world.
I'm gonna start carrying around a fucking baseball bat too for lesser criminals! Broward County, Florida
Get this doomer shit outta here. I'm not making peace with any facts about Venezuela. We're different. We're armed. We won't let it happen.
Ay Ay captain. Let me put my sunglasses on first.
Actions do speak louder than words. They just have to be the right actions.
90% of the comments in this thread are from 3 letter agencies.
Look through some of their post history. It's like reading a bad script.
We have guns though, so lets see what happens if they evade/ignore our legal means of redress.
I think the US has a combined fleet of 9000+ helicopters: https://www.statista.com/statistics/778282/commercial-helicopters-fleet-size-country/
Just putting it out there. 🚁
Notice the lack of boxes following 3 and preceding 4.
Still waiting for something to happen
Yeah well, we aren't Venezuelan pussies. Our judiciary process is simply their last chance to stay alive beyond 2021.
This. Exactly this.
The main difference is that the Venezuelan populace didn't have more firearms than citizens.