This is what FAUCI SAID AT THE BEGINNING. Wearing face masks induces people to touch their face, eyes, nose, mouth, etc. and creates a warm, wet environment for viruses and bacteria, because they are rarely discarded or washed.
It's almost as if PPE doesn't work if not used properly, and expecting 300 million untrained people to properly use PPE without training is clown world.
Yes that's true, masks don't work for viruses. However proper use, ie not touching, not adjusting constantly, and not wearing all day every day including alone in your fucking car will help mitigate the downsides of mask usage. Instead people by wearing them incorrectly are turning them into yet another vector of transmission.
If worn properly, it will reduce the risk, but not eliminate it. If you don't wear it properly, it will increase the risk, not reduce it. If you act like the mask provided full protection, then you will increase the risk, not eliminate it.
But the mask isn’t about preventing YOU from catching it, it’s supposedly about hindering the aerosol virus coming out of your mouth. No mask can prevent when someone sneezes and sprays viruses in tiny water droplets at you. The only thing that can prevent that is full on hazmat suit.
But I think the mask itself poses more harm than good anyway. People should cover their mouths when they sneeze or cough, stay home when sick and wash their hands often, no matter what.
Also people should eat well, exercise and get fresh air and sunlight every day.
Also people shouldn’t smoke anything or drink (to excess).
The problem is NOBODY wears it correctly. Cloth masks aren't even protective, it's just for show.
Once you take a mask off your face, it's supposed to be discarded. Yet up and down up and down on and off on and off touch the face touch the face touch the face is how we've been doing it.
This is what we've been saying the whole time. Nobody puts on a mask and leaves it there. It's a continuous adjustment, pulling it down and up, on and off. Every time you do this you touch your face, which is the most common cause of disease transmission.
Not to mention people wear them incorrectly (beards render them 100% ineffective), for too long, and take them off and throw them in their dirty purse, backpack, pocket, or on the passenger seat of their car.
And, they touch their dirty mask, then touch the tomatoes, then rub their itchy nose, then touch the bread x1000 people per store per day, just like this:
That is a great analogy! I always try to explain to people that masks do nothing but create a breading ground for bacteria (and allow you to signal your virtue), but having an analogy is always great. I’m stealing is one ;) Thanks!
All this naked swimming talk reminds me of a summer I spent in Denmark where a random dude just walked up to the city canal, stripped totally naked in front of us, jumped in for a swim, jumped out and got dressed again like it was no big deal.
Naked is fine with them over there apparently. So if you're ever in Denmark!
smart people know its theater, or even people who are paying attention. the question is what happens to the people who are not ready to take the masks off when this shit gets dealt with? I can only imagine the psychological damage this has done to people.
I'm in MA so the in store mask mandate has been here since fucking May. I just wear one of the shitty cloth scarves that I can lift over my face and pull down the second I walk out of the door. No one has said shit to me even back in July in the hospital when my daughter was born.
Interesting article. They review all this data showing mask wearing does nothing then at the end they show another paper that acknowledges that masks do nothing but says they still support wearing them.
It's such a charged topic that a scientific paper literally turns around in it's tracks and supports the opposite of it's own conclusion.
You see that back tracking in A LOT of scientific papers. Every time the results go against the grain of some hot button issue, they'll spend many of paragraphs explaining why their actual findings should definitely not ever apply to altering current perception or behavior.
Beneficial nicotine studies are especially a hoot.
In New York case numbers are allegedly rising. However, face mask rules have been in place since April? No one can offer a rationale explanation based on facts. Yet they continue to claim how face masks work.
Agreed. Odd isn’t it. I have seen people alone in there own cars with a mask on and people walking in an empty park with mask on and yet rates are rising! The mask religion. Entertainment events are shut down. (Concerts, sporting events, theatres). Restaurants are limited in hours and capacity. Etc,etc, etc. Yet they claim infection rates are climbing. Is it not fair to question when something is so obviously not working? We have become a nation of sheep.
PCR testing and reporting are such disconnected and vulnerable processes, there is little chance these numbers can be audited and meaningfully understood.
But they can be quietly influenced to return the desired result. Kind of like the 2020 election.
Holy crap, I've always assumed the mask mandates are (per Mark Dice) to keep a visual reminder in people's minds that we're in a pandemic and orange man bad.
I've never considered that maybe they're doing it to drive up the numbers of infected.
To me (and most of us), it's clear there are ulterior motives behind the mask mandates. There is no strong evidence that masks do anything and have even been debunked by the people now pushing them (e.g. CDC in 2015[?])
And why are there so many sheeple? Whenever I go into Walmart/Target/Lowe's (in KC area) there are almost no other people maskless. Normally I'm the only one. Aren't we Americans? Aren't we supposed to rise up against questionable government dictates?
"...one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” - MLKJR
Most Americans these days are cowards due to an easy lifestyle. Throw in the word "safety" and you can get most people to do just about anything.
Politicians are idiots. They take the simple idea that masks help reduce the spread of disease and then expand that and make sweeping generalizations without ever considering the specific use case. Confirmation bias solidifies their position and so they insist what they are doing is right.
“An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.”
“Conclusions: This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7108646/
“However, these masks would provide the wearer little protection from microorganisms from others persons who are infected with respiratory diseases. As a result, we would not recommend the use of homemade face masks as a method of reducing transmission of infection from aerosols.”
Masks are bullshit, they have always been bullshit.
Any scientist/Doctor who goes against it gets destroyed/deplatformed/cancelled, and well look at that we have consensus! No serious doctor says masks aren't effective! Funny how that works
Fauci co-authored a paper in 2008 about the Spanish Flu. They determined that the majority of the deaths were not actually from the flu but were from bacterial pneumonia caused by WEARING FACE MASKS!
"Often or Always wearing a face mask". I wear a mask if I go into a heavily traveled environment full of strangers but that accounts for about 2% of my time. Granted I am not a social person, thus avoiding such places unless I have to go in but still, who wears a mask "Often or Always" outside of a medical environment?
This is what FAUCI SAID AT THE BEGINNING. Wearing face masks induces people to touch their face, eyes, nose, mouth, etc. and creates a warm, wet environment for viruses and bacteria, because they are rarely discarded or washed.
It's almost as if PPE doesn't work if not used properly, and expecting 300 million untrained people to properly use PPE without training is clown world.
It's less than PPE though. A shitty piece of cloth or polyester or even a doctor's mask won't ever be enough to stop you from breathing in a virus.
Yes that's true, masks don't work for viruses. However proper use, ie not touching, not adjusting constantly, and not wearing all day every day including alone in your fucking car will help mitigate the downsides of mask usage. Instead people by wearing them incorrectly are turning them into yet another vector of transmission.
If worn properly, it will reduce the risk, but not eliminate it. If you don't wear it properly, it will increase the risk, not reduce it. If you act like the mask provided full protection, then you will increase the risk, not eliminate it.
But the mask isn’t about preventing YOU from catching it, it’s supposedly about hindering the aerosol virus coming out of your mouth. No mask can prevent when someone sneezes and sprays viruses in tiny water droplets at you. The only thing that can prevent that is full on hazmat suit.
But I think the mask itself poses more harm than good anyway. People should cover their mouths when they sneeze or cough, stay home when sick and wash their hands often, no matter what.
Also people should eat well, exercise and get fresh air and sunlight every day.
Also people shouldn’t smoke anything or drink (to excess).
The problem is NOBODY wears it correctly. Cloth masks aren't even protective, it's just for show.
Once you take a mask off your face, it's supposed to be discarded. Yet up and down up and down on and off on and off touch the face touch the face touch the face is how we've been doing it.
This is what we've been saying the whole time. Nobody puts on a mask and leaves it there. It's a continuous adjustment, pulling it down and up, on and off. Every time you do this you touch your face, which is the most common cause of disease transmission.
Not to mention people wear them incorrectly (beards render them 100% ineffective), for too long, and take them off and throw them in their dirty purse, backpack, pocket, or on the passenger seat of their car.
And, they touch their dirty mask, then touch the tomatoes, then rub their itchy nose, then touch the bread x1000 people per store per day, just like this:
https://youtu.be/I5-dI74zxPg
That is a great analogy! I always try to explain to people that masks do nothing but create a breading ground for bacteria (and allow you to signal your virtue), but having an analogy is always great. I’m stealing is one ;) Thanks!
So... swim naked?
(It was a joke, but I learned something new today.)
All this naked swimming talk reminds me of a summer I spent in Denmark where a random dude just walked up to the city canal, stripped totally naked in front of us, jumped in for a swim, jumped out and got dressed again like it was no big deal.
Naked is fine with them over there apparently. So if you're ever in Denmark!
I remove the upvote on my own posts because I don't think i need the boost. Nothing anybody's mad about.
What paper is that?
http://fortfairfieldjournal.com/ffj/2020/11042001a.html
If you must wear something, use a bandana folded over a couple times. Nobody says shit and your breath exhales freely. It's fucking theatre anyway
smart people know its theater, or even people who are paying attention. the question is what happens to the people who are not ready to take the masks off when this shit gets dealt with? I can only imagine the psychological damage this has done to people.
The lasting repercussions from this psyop will last a lifetime. Think like 9/11 but on a personal level.
I have one of these. Air just flows the fuck right through that bitch.
Oh yeah I threw out that filter day 1
I'm in MA so the in store mask mandate has been here since fucking May. I just wear one of the shitty cloth scarves that I can lift over my face and pull down the second I walk out of the door. No one has said shit to me even back in July in the hospital when my daughter was born.
Source please
http://fortfairfieldjournal.com/ffj/2020/11042001a.html
Interesting article. They review all this data showing mask wearing does nothing then at the end they show another paper that acknowledges that masks do nothing but says they still support wearing them.
It's such a charged topic that a scientific paper literally turns around in it's tracks and supports the opposite of it's own conclusion.
You see that back tracking in A LOT of scientific papers. Every time the results go against the grain of some hot button issue, they'll spend many of paragraphs explaining why their actual findings should definitely not ever apply to altering current perception or behavior.
Beneficial nicotine studies are especially a hoot.
Thanks, I'm doing what I can to convert friends in the US and here. I love your work mate...
In New York case numbers are allegedly rising. However, face mask rules have been in place since April? No one can offer a rationale explanation based on facts. Yet they continue to claim how face masks work.
Same in Texas. Case counts went up after Abbott’s mask mandates and they’re going up again. Deaths and hospitalizations aren’t spiking though. Hmmm
Agreed. Odd isn’t it. I have seen people alone in there own cars with a mask on and people walking in an empty park with mask on and yet rates are rising! The mask religion. Entertainment events are shut down. (Concerts, sporting events, theatres). Restaurants are limited in hours and capacity. Etc,etc, etc. Yet they claim infection rates are climbing. Is it not fair to question when something is so obviously not working? We have become a nation of sheep.
PCR testing and reporting are such disconnected and vulnerable processes, there is little chance these numbers can be audited and meaningfully understood.
But they can be quietly influenced to return the desired result. Kind of like the 2020 election.
Ever notice they don't want us wearing gloves?
Because masks are part of an occult ritual, which this is. Gloves are not.
Not to mention everyone that was against the fucking headscarves are now half way there.
It's dehumanizing, it gets people used to wearing them, and before long, dressing like you're in a certain political-religious group.
On the upside, once everyone is infected nobody else can get infected, and the crisis ends with herd immunity like it was supposed to 6 months ago.
Source
http://fortfairfieldjournal.com/ffj/2020/11042001a.html
Is that... a news PAPER? Like actual dead trees?
Sauce: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6936a5.htm
Thanks!
https://youtu.be/UYRuOzDdazU
Kittery, ME here, saving this. Thank you
Holy crap, I've always assumed the mask mandates are (per Mark Dice) to keep a visual reminder in people's minds that we're in a pandemic and orange man bad.
I've never considered that maybe they're doing it to drive up the numbers of infected.
To me (and most of us), it's clear there are ulterior motives behind the mask mandates. There is no strong evidence that masks do anything and have even been debunked by the people now pushing them (e.g. CDC in 2015[?])
And why are there so many sheeple? Whenever I go into Walmart/Target/Lowe's (in KC area) there are almost no other people maskless. Normally I'm the only one. Aren't we Americans? Aren't we supposed to rise up against questionable government dictates?
"...one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” - MLKJR
Most Americans these days are cowards due to an easy lifestyle. Throw in the word "safety" and you can get most people to do just about anything.
Politicians are idiots. They take the simple idea that masks help reduce the spread of disease and then expand that and make sweeping generalizations without ever considering the specific use case. Confirmation bias solidifies their position and so they insist what they are doing is right.
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Hey! Yes, Hey You OP! Thank you from the bottom of my heart. This information is so important. THANK YOU!
Maybe this will backfire on them and everyone will reach herd immunity and it will be over shortly.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25903751/
https://archive.is/1Qeuz
“An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.”
“Conclusions: This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7108646/ “However, these masks would provide the wearer little protection from microorganisms from others persons who are infected with respiratory diseases. As a result, we would not recommend the use of homemade face masks as a method of reducing transmission of infection from aerosols.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2440799/ Netherlands study, cloth coverings only block 2% of particles. Surgical masks block 4%.
N95 block 95% of particles.
Study somehow comes to the conclusion that cloth masks should be worn when nothing else is available, but the numbers don’t support that.
Highly under-upvoted comments here, pede.
Thank you!
Masks are bullshit, they have always been bullshit.
Any scientist/Doctor who goes against it gets destroyed/deplatformed/cancelled, and well look at that we have consensus! No serious doctor says masks aren't effective! Funny how that works
archive link: https://archive.is/vRqZl
Fauci co-authored a paper in 2008 about the Spanish Flu. They determined that the majority of the deaths were not actually from the flu but were from bacterial pneumonia caused by WEARING FACE MASKS!
Great post
Might as well strap a fucking incubator to your damn face, fake news dummies!
"Often or Always wearing a face mask". I wear a mask if I go into a heavily traveled environment full of strangers but that accounts for about 2% of my time. Granted I am not a social person, thus avoiding such places unless I have to go in but still, who wears a mask "Often or Always" outside of a medical environment?