You can be vegan, buff and healthy if you're smart about it. The problem with soy boys is that they are "trendy" about it and never take the time to property research.
You really can't long-term. I've seen so many supposedly educated vegans that do all the right things, but after a few years you start seeing the results. Their bodies start eating their muscle, so they get lankier and lankier because the body needs amino acids that it gets from eating meat. Without animal protein, your body starts breaking down it's own muscles and collagen. The lack of collagen is why I can generally spot a vegan that's been vegan for a few years. They start aging at an alarming rate. I really notice it around their mouths. They get this weird emaciated skeleton mouths where you can see their teeth through their upper lip area. Plus, hollows under their eyes. All the fruits and veggies they eat are really healthy which is why they look great at first. Their skin is getting an infusion of vitamins and minerals. The lack of animal protein and collagen starts taking its toll a few years in.
I actually have a BA in English with a concentration in creative writing, but I do a lot of research on a variety of topics for fun. I enjoy learning new things.... which is how I became a conservative in the first place lol
sure, going vegetarian or vegan temporarily can help you cut if you're morbidly obese and allergic to exercise, but that comes from the fact that it's extremely difficult to stay vegan and maintain excess calories. it has little to do with the actual food consumed. if you just weighed your food and counted macros, you'd arrive at an even better result.
It really doesn't help with weight loss since you're going to grow tired of just vegetables, so you'll end up with a mostly pasta and rice diet. And you aren't eating that shit plain.
It is worse, the brain deteriorates. Humans did not get big brains until they could cook and get more fat and protein from animals, in many cases from insects, birds, and any creeping thing that was edible
Yeah, you don't even need that much meat if you don't want it, our ancestors had to make do with less at many points.
Leaves more for the rest of us - I love meat, and I grew up in the country so when cucks as me if I'd be fine having to get it myself the old-fashioned way, the answer is yes.
You could take a protein powder, a creatine supplement, a zinc, copper, iron supplement, a b vitamin supplement or you could just eat a piece of steak.
Cal's are one thing, sources are another. As for 1200 from one vegan meal? Probably, the question is the 'defining' point for vegan, because some consider milk and eggs to be perfectly fine. If you add that into the mix, then it becomes easy.
Legumes also include the required amino acid profile for it. I'll stick with my meat heavy diet though.
If you replace "vegan" with "vegetarian" I would agree, but there are things we NEED from meat, eggs, and dairy. You can get those things from supplements, but those supplements are from... animal products.
You can be vegan, buff and healthy if you're smart about it. The problem with soy boys is that they are "trendy" about it and never take the time to property research.
It's self inflicted starvation.
You really can't long-term. I've seen so many supposedly educated vegans that do all the right things, but after a few years you start seeing the results. Their bodies start eating their muscle, so they get lankier and lankier because the body needs amino acids that it gets from eating meat. Without animal protein, your body starts breaking down it's own muscles and collagen. The lack of collagen is why I can generally spot a vegan that's been vegan for a few years. They start aging at an alarming rate. I really notice it around their mouths. They get this weird emaciated skeleton mouths where you can see their teeth through their upper lip area. Plus, hollows under their eyes. All the fruits and veggies they eat are really healthy which is why they look great at first. Their skin is getting an infusion of vitamins and minerals. The lack of animal protein and collagen starts taking its toll a few years in.
You sound like my wife, who is a very educated skincare professional.
I can see a healthy diet with less meat while eating fresh, something I probably need. But going vegan is not healthy. Period.
I actually have a BA in English with a concentration in creative writing, but I do a lot of research on a variety of topics for fun. I enjoy learning new things.... which is how I became a conservative in the first place lol
This bunny thinks.
Meat isn't unhealthy.
Obligatory whipping this out as they deserve a ton of views https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RLk5AAKRem8
this. very much this.
it's so easy to tell. they look sick.
sure, going vegetarian or vegan temporarily can help you cut if you're morbidly obese and allergic to exercise, but that comes from the fact that it's extremely difficult to stay vegan and maintain excess calories. it has little to do with the actual food consumed. if you just weighed your food and counted macros, you'd arrive at an even better result.
It really doesn't help with weight loss since you're going to grow tired of just vegetables, so you'll end up with a mostly pasta and rice diet. And you aren't eating that shit plain.
My aunt looks like a skeleton the mouth and all. She hasn't had meat in decades.
It is worse, the brain deteriorates. Humans did not get big brains until they could cook and get more fat and protein from animals, in many cases from insects, birds, and any creeping thing that was edible
No, you cannot. What "heatlhy" diet requires the need to supplement with so many other things? You need meat, preferably grass fed organic.
Amen. Going carnivore is changing my life.
Corporations want you vegan because soy is easier to produce than red meat.
Yep Carnivore is the way to go.
Yeah, you don't even need that much meat if you don't want it, our ancestors had to make do with less at many points.
Leaves more for the rest of us - I love meat, and I grew up in the country so when cucks as me if I'd be fine having to get it myself the old-fashioned way, the answer is yes.
Honestly, I’d rather have a grain fed cow and just a fish oil pill. I’m not a fan of grass fed.
We used to pen the cow up for the last month or so and just let it eat grain. Grain fed is far better than grass fed.
Grass fed has more flavor IMHO. It has to be cooked differently to come out well. Also the breed matters.
That’s the best of both worlds. I feel like it really softens up the meat.
plus organs and tasty bone marrow
You could take a protein powder, a creatine supplement, a zinc, copper, iron supplement, a b vitamin supplement or you could just eat a piece of steak.
What are you a soyboy cuck? Who cooks their steak? lol
Not buff, no.
Scientific consensus is that you must ingest a certain amount of protein to build muscles. Depends on your body, but let's say it's 120g a day.
Give me an example of 120g vegan protein.
And that's not counting the biological value and the amino acid profile.
Seem to remember legumes having a rather large amount of protein in them, which is why you keep them as part of your survival kit.
Complete and incomplete proteins. Nothing is easier to convert than denatured (heated) animal proteins.
Seriously? Just eating lentils, for example, has all the protein that anyone needs in a daily intake. http://www.dietandfitnesstoday.com/protein-in-lentils.php
Who eats raw lentils?
I see in the USDA that boiled lentils have 9g of protein per 100g.
So what do you do? You eat 1 kilo of lentils every day? Good luck with that.
u/Mashiki
But my question is, are you physically able to ingest enough protein from vegan sources? And if yes, can you do that comfortably?
Let's do another test: can you hit 1200 cal with only one vegan meal? If yes please tell me how.
Non-vegan I can get eat 700g of lasagne, boom that's 1200 calories.
Do you even lift bro? 2KG of lentils minum.
Anyone that eats less than 10 cups of lentils a day is a weak steak and potato eating bitch.
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Cal's are one thing, sources are another. As for 1200 from one vegan meal? Probably, the question is the 'defining' point for vegan, because some consider milk and eggs to be perfectly fine. If you add that into the mix, then it becomes easy.
Legumes also include the required amino acid profile for it. I'll stick with my meat heavy diet though.
If you replace "vegan" with "vegetarian" I would agree, but there are things we NEED from meat, eggs, and dairy. You can get those things from supplements, but those supplements are from... animal products.
I'm pretty sure that there are supplements that come from highly-processed plant sources that allow vegans to remain vegan.
However, they're expensive.
Being vegan is a 1st world solution to a problem that doesn't exist.