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WinstonSmith1984 38 points ago +38 / -0

I would argue Obama was "farther left sooner" than they wanted, but they saw the chance and ran with it. The plan was:

Bush 41 85-93

Clinton 42 93-01

Bush 43 01-09

Clinton 44 09-17

Bush 45 17-25

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WinstonSmith1984 8 points ago +8 / -0

yep

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nubfilter 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's "Jeb!"

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rebelde_sin_causa 19 points ago +19 / -0

They really did try to foist an alternating 2 family system on us. The Precious wasn't originally part of that plan. It was supposed to be her in '08

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WinstonSmith1984 4 points ago +4 / -0

Exactly

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CitizenPlain 14 points ago +14 / -0

Jeb can still win! (Queue the Jeb hands up meme).

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KeepingAmericaGreat 11 points ago +11 / -0

"We are going to fundamentally change the United States of America," and he was never made to explain what he meant.

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WinstonSmith1984 7 points ago +7 / -0

Seemed pretty self-explanatory to me. The foundation of this Nation is our Constitution. He was working to change that (largely by ignoring it).

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KeepingAmericaGreat 5 points ago +5 / -0

My point is that he should have been made to explain exactly how he is going to fundamentally transform our nation. Maybe that was not obvious to some, like me.

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WinstonSmith1984 4 points ago +4 / -0

Our media was as high quality then as they are now; they just hid it better.

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debacle 9 points ago +9 / -0

Obama was a Trump that they were able to easily defuse. Unfortunately, it also put reddit and 4chan on their radar which is why neither truly survived 2016.

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WinstonSmith1984 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'd say he was a "Trump" from the far left, but agree he was easily cowed