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They didn't anticipate the turnout. Overwhelming MAGA turnout. Had to make up the difference quick. Agree that they are all in. Fucked Around, they're about to Find Out.
They did all the same cheats in 2016, but didn’t see the MAGA turn out. They hadn’t installed the panic button to stop the count and allow them to manufacture more ballots.
In 2020 they corrected that issue. They had the “stop counting“ panic button in place and the MSM was in on it. That allowed the 4 am dumps of extra ballots.
very possible. I also don't think they realized how many people would reject the MSM's call for a Biden victory. Thought they could just announce it and move on.
At the end of this, all the media companies are going to play dumb. "Biden didn't win? We couldn't know, put the governors in jail since they told us."
Everyone who showed up in DC on Saturday is just a fraction of us. A crazy number of people voted for Trump and that is why the amount of suspicion we are seeing. Most likely 80+ MM votes for Trump easily.
I still say they used that fake cover for a water main break which turned out to be a bathroom leak was a signal for other states to do something to shift in their method of cheating. Which was bring in the fake ballots and run them through several times to keep up with the wave.
I'm sure they had second thoughts, but I'm sure at that point they really had no option -- Biden's laptop was discovered, Powell was already exposing Dominion and they saw just how many votes were coming in for Trump, they knew he had been given a mandate to clear them out.
I think as someone pointed out in another thread, but not a lawyer, that they just have to prove that the machines were insecure, could be hacked and that this was possible under those conditions.
Given the criminality of all the aforementioned shit that's been exposed, seems like they couldn't get themselves that much deeper by trying.
Yes, the fraud was pre-planned and pre-programmed. They had to stop the count so they could figure out how many ballots they could manufacture. They needed to know how many votes were left to count versus how many registered voters were left so they wouldn't go over.
I don't think that stopped them for a second. They couldn't let Trump get ahead by 10% in contested states and then flip the entire 10%. They had to stop it cold signaling that it was still a race (a lot of vote still out) and then bring in the made as instructed ballots
Sounds plausible. The only had to bring in more fake ballots. I asume the first fake load was already in the building. But that wasn’t enough. Trump’s turnout made them panic and go in overdrive resulting in the hilarious 77M Biden votes.
They didn't stop to think about it. What happened was they underestimated the massive Trump turnout, and when the last few states were left (Biden's last path to victory), they panicked and realized it wasn't going to be enough.
So they stopped the count in those states.
That's why they shut it down and that's why it took days to keep harvesting and manufacturing ballots to eek him to narrow lead and call the state
This, their cheating wasn't enough so they had to stop counting to buy time to fill out fraudulent ballots.
I think the software was huge but still insufficient to counter Trump's unexpected support. If it were just software fraud they wouldn't have had to stop counting, dump off tons of mysteriously "found" ballots after the deadline, keep poll watchers away, or any of that.
the computers simply did what they were originally programmed to do
What the commies didn't know and couldn't predict was the massive voter turnout for Trump.
So their little dominion computers applied the fraud algo diligently. Exposing the fraud that was programmed within them - only thanks to a massive voter turnout for the GEOTUS, we would have never of found it.
I think they stopped because the count was rapidly approaching a point from which they could not recover. I think the numbers we generated caught them flat-footed. A massive Trump majority exceeded 50% of the potential votes before they could get their machine in gear -- they thought they would have all night and it turned out they were being skunked in the first few hours after the polls closed.
They stopped because continuing would have broadcast their loss in real-time.
Fuckers hoped the conservatives would just roll over and die like always. Even got fox news to spin their bullshit, and were expecting the pedes to just accept all the bullshit being fed down their throats if it comes from a 'trusted source', like their own MSN NPC audience does.
If your theory is true which it more than likely is, even tho they war gamed this for awhile, then it gives you an idea of what their next move is. It's all in now, they ain't done cheating the system
People who will go to jail for several lifetimes (if they are lucky) do not have second thoughts about doing the one thing that would keep them out of jail.
They saw Trump was outperforming their expectations, and realized they needed more fake votes. They paused counting to give the printers time to make more ballots.
They already had (probably) something like 200k fake ballots prepared ahead of time. They were caught off guard and needed more.
No. Not at all. They stopped, because they had to put Plan B in motion. Plan A was supposed to be the repudiation of Trump. Instead, the opposite happened. Where it went wrong, horribly wrong for them, was the unbelievable turnout for Trump and Republicans. From there, Plan B went into motion.
You're making it sound like they had a moment of hesitation. They've always been all in on stealing this election, they know the MSM have their backs and they will never get called out.
They stopped because they had to frantically fill out more fraudulent ballots than they already had - which was probably a substantial amount since they had weeks and weeks to do it.
My theory is they had the program set to give Biden a win as long as Trump didnt get 100m votes. And then as the night went on they realized it wasnt enough and went to plan B with mail in fuckery.
To have the entire election in multiple swing states stop at the exact same time would take a massive, coordinated effort between the DNC, local officials, and the media...there's gotta be some supportive evidence.
I would imagine the stop was plan b. Plan a was hamr/scorecard. If that failed then shut down the count and start flooding the system with fake ballots.
My theory is that the true OG steal was in the Smartmatic and Dominion voting machines programmed to switch votes. Once again, bullshit polls and arrogance from the left shows that they did not anticipate the the explosive turn out from Trump supporters. They thought the programming would have been enough to steal the election until about 9pm EST they realized the programming would not be enough and stopped counting.
They had these ballots all filled out for Biden well before the election took place. They went to Plan B without thinking it through and said “fuck it” they couldn’t lose again The problem was the amount of fraudulent votes they had to submit skewed the data so much it was undeniable that fraud took place and at that time it was too far gone. Their idea was too easy and poorly executed, no big surprise.
Buckle up, heads are about to roll, liberal cities will burn, MSM will fall and you’re about to see one of the biggest criminal enterprises crumble to the floor...the democratic establishment.
I think they thought they would do well on election day and the vote switching would be unnoticeable since they would only be 1-3% behind but they were 10+% behind in all the states so they panicked and set off dominion.
I don't think they stopped to think about. They stopped because they had to. They didn't expect GEOTUS to take 3%+ of Democrat Super Voters day of. When he did it messed up their preprogrammed algos so they had to stop things and go back to other means of fraud.
I don't think they ever thought about not doing it. They just panicked when they realized they didn't bake in enough fraud and reverted to what they know: stuffing boxes.
I think they contacted the shot-callers to negotiate that the payment and 'golden parachute' future employment offers were increased and guaranteed in case they were dismissed for their 'efforts for the cause'. They then shut down counting for an hour or so to free up a window so that they could get the larger ballot manufacture/switch process going. The off-site production yielded the resulting van-loads of votes 2-3 hours later.
They have said in Detroit lawsuit that they used a rental van. I wonder if the rental company keeps tracking logs of the van's location(s) and travel? Might help to ID the sites where van stopped before showing up at counting site.
To clarify, since I'm getting a lot of this comment. I don't think they were like "guys I'm starting to have a moral issue with what we're doing, should we stop?". It was "Holy shit guys, there's no way we can hide the fraud we're about to commit. We will get caught 100%. What do we do? Let's pause and regroup"
To clarify, since I'm getting a lot of this comment. I don't think they were like "guys I'm starting to have a moral issue with what we're doing, should we stop?". It was "Holy shit guys, there's no way we can hide the fraud we're about to commit. We will get caught 100%. What do we do? Let's pause and regroup"
While we're on theories, I believe that Hillary conceded so quickly because they did this shit in 2016 and any recount would have exposed the fraud immediately.
When Florida was called for President Trump on election night, as I flipped through the networks, it seemed like many talking heads were genuinely surprised.
Makes me wonder if Florida was a monkey wrench in their plans to steal.
Nah, they stopped so they could work out how many fake ballots to be sent to each location. Restarted a couple hours - the time it took for the vans to deliver the fake ballots to each location
Local fraud was always going to occur. These urban counties haven't seen a Republican majority in decades. Cheating even in primaries against other Democrats isn't beyond the pale for these Democrats.
Clarke County literally changes caucus rules hours before the process is scheduled whenever their ideal candidate is too close in the polls. Detroit Democrats literally give gifts to poor & disabled voters. On top of that, the people who organize the Floorplans for ballot counting are politically connected. The "volunteers" are anything but.
Don't listen to Democrats. Watch how they behaved. Up until the end of October they were counting on the polls to be within reasonable margins. Local manipulation of blue counties can get you a victory in close races - 3% or so. They weren't expecting Trump to win Florida and Ohio by bigger margins. They weren't expecting Trump to win Texas by 700,000 votes.
In the final days before the election the Democrats were realizing that the polls were wrong but they had no way of knowing until the Dominion software had collected a large enough %.
I don’t think they stopped because of second thoughts. I think they were all in. I think they stopped so they can regroup and double down
They didn't anticipate the turnout. Overwhelming MAGA turnout. Had to make up the difference quick. Agree that they are all in. Fucked Around, they're about to Find Out.
All the lies trump supporters told polsters paid off!
You think pollsters ever do their job properly!
I think they DID see the MAGA turn out coming.
They did all the same cheats in 2016, but didn’t see the MAGA turn out. They hadn’t installed the panic button to stop the count and allow them to manufacture more ballots.
In 2020 they corrected that issue. They had the “stop counting“ panic button in place and the MSM was in on it. That allowed the 4 am dumps of extra ballots.
very possible. I also don't think they realized how many people would reject the MSM's call for a Biden victory. Thought they could just announce it and move on.
At the end of this, all the media companies are going to play dumb. "Biden didn't win? We couldn't know, put the governors in jail since they told us."
Everyone who showed up in DC on Saturday is just a fraction of us. A crazy number of people voted for Trump and that is why the amount of suspicion we are seeing. Most likely 80+ MM votes for Trump easily.
I still say they used that fake cover for a water main break which turned out to be a bathroom leak was a signal for other states to do something to shift in their method of cheating. Which was bring in the fake ballots and run them through several times to keep up with the wave.
All my normie friends and boomer parents already moved on. These people think life will just go back to "normal", and "just another election".
Good distinction
I'm sure they had second thoughts, but I'm sure at that point they really had no option -- Biden's laptop was discovered, Powell was already exposing Dominion and they saw just how many votes were coming in for Trump, they knew he had been given a mandate to clear them out.
I can buy that
I think as someone pointed out in another thread, but not a lawyer, that they just have to prove that the machines were insecure, could be hacked and that this was possible under those conditions.
Given the criminality of all the aforementioned shit that's been exposed, seems like they couldn't get themselves that much deeper by trying.
Yes, the fraud was pre-planned and pre-programmed. They had to stop the count so they could figure out how many ballots they could manufacture. They needed to know how many votes were left to count versus how many registered voters were left so they wouldn't go over.
Ya they say this is how it has been done in other countries.
I don't think that stopped them for a second. They couldn't let Trump get ahead by 10% in contested states and then flip the entire 10%. They had to stop it cold signaling that it was still a race (a lot of vote still out) and then bring in the made as instructed ballots
This, because there is no way they have a conscience to think twice about it.
Sounds plausible. The only had to bring in more fake ballots. I asume the first fake load was already in the building. But that wasn’t enough. Trump’s turnout made them panic and go in overdrive resulting in the hilarious 77M Biden votes.
This is exactly what happened.
They didn't stop to think about it. What happened was they underestimated the massive Trump turnout, and when the last few states were left (Biden's last path to victory), they panicked and realized it wasn't going to be enough.
So they stopped the count in those states.
That's why they shut it down and that's why it took days to keep harvesting and manufacturing ballots to eek him to narrow lead and call the state
This, their cheating wasn't enough so they had to stop counting to buy time to fill out fraudulent ballots.
I think the software was huge but still insufficient to counter Trump's unexpected support. If it were just software fraud they wouldn't have had to stop counting, dump off tons of mysteriously "found" ballots after the deadline, keep poll watchers away, or any of that.
So I hope they continue to pursue both avenues.
almost agree with you
the computers simply did what they were originally programmed to do
What the commies didn't know and couldn't predict was the massive voter turnout for Trump.
So their little dominion computers applied the fraud algo diligently. Exposing the fraud that was programmed within them - only thanks to a massive voter turnout for the GEOTUS, we would have never of found it.
I think they did the same in 2016 and why they focused so much on the popular vote narrative.
How do you know?
Where can I see this?
A good lawyer rarely asks a question to which he doesn't already know the answer
I am with you 100% and hopefully they overplayed their hand so badly it results in an absolute disaster.
Or they shit their pants after Ohio and Florida then created a path. Then we had "pipes bursting" in Atlanta
it was because the pre election day cheating was clear to be insufficient, trump scored a landslide, biden underperformed
they gained this knowledge by counting the legit votes for a day
I think they stopped because the count was rapidly approaching a point from which they could not recover. I think the numbers we generated caught them flat-footed. A massive Trump majority exceeded 50% of the potential votes before they could get their machine in gear -- they thought they would have all night and it turned out they were being skunked in the first few hours after the polls closed.
They stopped because continuing would have broadcast their loss in real-time.
That's what I think.
Fuckers hoped the conservatives would just roll over and die like always. Even got fox news to spin their bullshit, and were expecting the pedes to just accept all the bullshit being fed down their throats if it comes from a 'trusted source', like their own MSN NPC audience does.
Turns out they fucked up bigly.
They actually believe we all get our opinions from Fox News, handed down by Rupert Murdoch.
This is what happens when their decisions are based on false assumptions.
If your theory is true which it more than likely is, even tho they war gamed this for awhile, then it gives you an idea of what their next move is. It's all in now, they ain't done cheating the system
Haha no.
People who will go to jail for several lifetimes (if they are lucky) do not have second thoughts about doing the one thing that would keep them out of jail.
People telling pollsters that they were going to vote for Biden might have helped with that.
Better theory:
They saw Trump was outperforming their expectations, and realized they needed more fake votes. They paused counting to give the printers time to make more ballots.
They already had (probably) something like 200k fake ballots prepared ahead of time. They were caught off guard and needed more.
No. Not at all. They stopped, because they had to put Plan B in motion. Plan A was supposed to be the repudiation of Trump. Instead, the opposite happened. Where it went wrong, horribly wrong for them, was the unbelievable turnout for Trump and Republicans. From there, Plan B went into motion.
You're making it sound like they had a moment of hesitation. They've always been all in on stealing this election, they know the MSM have their backs and they will never get called out.
They stopped because they had to frantically fill out more fraudulent ballots than they already had - which was probably a substantial amount since they had weeks and weeks to do it.
My theory is they had the program set to give Biden a win as long as Trump didnt get 100m votes. And then as the night went on they realized it wasnt enough and went to plan B with mail in fuckery.
They stopped because it takes a shitload of time to fake 100s of thousands of signatures.
To have the entire election in multiple swing states stop at the exact same time would take a massive, coordinated effort between the DNC, local officials, and the media...there's gotta be some supportive evidence.
not to mention Trump KNEW it was going to happen and he HAD to have been looking for it.
Nope, there were never any second thoughts, only algorithm recalibration. They were ALL IN after November 2016
I would imagine the stop was plan b. Plan a was hamr/scorecard. If that failed then shut down the count and start flooding the system with fake ballots.
This was their plan B...
My theory is that the true OG steal was in the Smartmatic and Dominion voting machines programmed to switch votes. Once again, bullshit polls and arrogance from the left shows that they did not anticipate the the explosive turn out from Trump supporters. They thought the programming would have been enough to steal the election until about 9pm EST they realized the programming would not be enough and stopped counting.
They had these ballots all filled out for Biden well before the election took place. They went to Plan B without thinking it through and said “fuck it” they couldn’t lose again The problem was the amount of fraudulent votes they had to submit skewed the data so much it was undeniable that fraud took place and at that time it was too far gone. Their idea was too easy and poorly executed, no big surprise.
Buckle up, heads are about to roll, liberal cities will burn, MSM will fall and you’re about to see one of the biggest criminal enterprises crumble to the floor...the democratic establishment.
Sounds about right!
checks out , they really are that arrogant
Possibly but i'm more convinced they stopped because they didn't expect Trump to get so many votes and had to change their algorythym
I think they thought they would do well on election day and the vote switching would be unnoticeable since they would only be 1-3% behind but they were 10+% behind in all the states so they panicked and set off dominion.
I don't think they stopped to think about. They stopped because they had to. They didn't expect GEOTUS to take 3%+ of Democrat Super Voters day of. When he did it messed up their preprogrammed algos so they had to stop things and go back to other means of fraud.
I don't think they ever thought about not doing it. They just panicked when they realized they didn't bake in enough fraud and reverted to what they know: stuffing boxes.
They probably had to stop to coordinate with the data analysis teams in china.
Gravity is also a theory. I believe yours more.
There was a "commit 2x" moment that had to be approved by someone (especially PA, MI, WI) ...I hope to see them all face a reckoning.
I think they contacted the shot-callers to negotiate that the payment and 'golden parachute' future employment offers were increased and guaranteed in case they were dismissed for their 'efforts for the cause'. They then shut down counting for an hour or so to free up a window so that they could get the larger ballot manufacture/switch process going. The off-site production yielded the resulting van-loads of votes 2-3 hours later.
They have said in Detroit lawsuit that they used a rental van. I wonder if the rental company keeps tracking logs of the van's location(s) and travel? Might help to ID the sites where van stopped before showing up at counting site.
To clarify, since I'm getting a lot of this comment. I don't think they were like "guys I'm starting to have a moral issue with what we're doing, should we stop?". It was "Holy shit guys, there's no way we can hide the fraud we're about to commit. We will get caught 100%. What do we do? Let's pause and regroup"
there's only so much the dems can get away with. Granted it's a metric fuckton, but they aren't completely untouchable.
fucking true... HOWEVA in my circle of friends I always made the assertion he was waiting for his second term to go scorched earth. Optics...
Are we part of a hive mind because I thought the exact same thing.
They were like " Man fuck this, all or nothing"
I truly believe that Bidet only got 30 million people to vote for him and Pres Trump got at least 80 Million votes.
No way they hesitated, no remorse. They straight up underestimated Trump's votes and had to pause the count to catch up the cheat.
To clarify, since I'm getting a lot of this comment. I don't think they were like "guys I'm starting to have a moral issue with what we're doing, should we stop?". It was "Holy shit guys, there's no way we can hide the fraud we're about to commit. We will get caught 100%. What do we do? Let's pause and regroup"
Yes! Because they couldn't stop the MASSIVE MAGA WAVE 🇺🇸👏👏🇺🇸👏👏🙌🙌🇺🇸
While we're on theories, I believe that Hillary conceded so quickly because they did this shit in 2016 and any recount would have exposed the fraud immediately.
So far, shit looks like it is working but the truth is breaking through their mental and media force fields. Keep on pushing!
I've said it before.
When Florida was called for President Trump on election night, as I flipped through the networks, it seemed like many talking heads were genuinely surprised.
Makes me wonder if Florida was a monkey wrench in their plans to steal.
Nah, they stopped so they could work out how many fake ballots to be sent to each location. Restarted a couple hours - the time it took for the vans to deliver the fake ballots to each location
The Trump numbers were so big they needed more time. 1,000 votes here and there wouldn’t work. They had to go full retard.
This sounds plausible enough
Yeah and they cheated in multiple ways
Local fraud was always going to occur. These urban counties haven't seen a Republican majority in decades. Cheating even in primaries against other Democrats isn't beyond the pale for these Democrats.
Clarke County literally changes caucus rules hours before the process is scheduled whenever their ideal candidate is too close in the polls. Detroit Democrats literally give gifts to poor & disabled voters. On top of that, the people who organize the Floorplans for ballot counting are politically connected. The "volunteers" are anything but.
Don't listen to Democrats. Watch how they behaved. Up until the end of October they were counting on the polls to be within reasonable margins. Local manipulation of blue counties can get you a victory in close races - 3% or so. They weren't expecting Trump to win Florida and Ohio by bigger margins. They weren't expecting Trump to win Texas by 700,000 votes.
In the final days before the election the Democrats were realizing that the polls were wrong but they had no way of knowing until the Dominion software had collected a large enough %.
That’s a theory?
Sounds more like an undeniable truth of life to me...