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arkylady 75 points ago +75 / -0

If you want to make more sense of what is happening and why, Yuri Bezmenov spells it out pretty clearly. This is a short version, you can find a few full interviews and lectures from him if you want to research into it further (this was back in the 80s).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI

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C_Taylor 21 points ago +21 / -0

I can also recommend some JBS work: https://youtu.be/vCjhZpgeF3k

And Anonymous Conservative: http://www.anonymousconservative.com/

If you are looking for fiction you can try old classics, Human Wave scifi, or look up the sad and rabid puppies recommendations.

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EnemiesDestroyed 8 points ago +8 / -0

Make sure to back-up videos of this nature to a flash drive, or two.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 20 points ago +20 / -0

I'm lucky. Mom, dad, both brothers and my wife are alex jones level red pilled. We have a family gun safe. We haven't made it through a family dinner without someone calling george soros a cocksucker in years.

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Nothinberder 3 points ago +3 / -0

Family goals. Lol.

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FuckChinaJoe 24 points ago +24 / -0

If your mom is leftist, introduce her to Chomsky and TheGrayZone. There are serious leftist anti-MSM, anti-indoctrination movements. US government manufactured a sexual assault case against Max Blumenthal, owner of the Gray Zone, trying to lock him up like Assange. The shit got a lot of public attention and government eventually gave up, but his news site were banned in all major social media after that.

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destroyer713 21 points ago +21 / -0

I can't tell you how happy I am that my 77 year old mom spends as much time here on T_D as I do. Our family dinner conversations sometimes leaves the rest of the family wondering about all the things we talk about.

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horsefacestorm 12 points ago +12 / -0

Whoa that is awesome

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BidenHunter 10 points ago +10 / -0

My dad's the same age & he's on here too. He's almost Alex Jones level red-pilled.

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AZTrumpFan 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same. EXACT. Story. Here. My mom considers herself some intellectual snob and listens to goddamned NPR 24/7. I've been shoving reality in her face forever now but still haven't broken through the force fields.

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Rothbard 42 points ago +42 / -0

Yeah my mum always said growing up the world was run by pedos. Plus they would force gay culture on us. She was for no government (ancap) and wanted no immigrants from muslim countries this was in the 90s. I woke up by mid 2000s to agree with my mum. Everyone thought she was insane and she didnt care but slowly she was proven right on everything.

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GODwins76 4 points ago +4 / -0

Anarcho-monarchy. 2nd Constitutional convention. Freedom!

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dixond 3 points ago +3 / -0

DEUS VULT

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Rothbard 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe better to define her as an ancap who wants a state army to stop muslims coming into the country and to round up pedos. Also to round up people who torture animals.

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leg_hairs 15 points ago +15 / -0

Dude my mom is the same way. She would say Obama was the antichrist and a gay muslim like back in 08/09

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RussianAgent13 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'm an ancap by heart. It would only work in a world full of powerful good people. Not possible at this time. (if ever)

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Southern_Belle 5 points ago +5 / -0

Not in this 3D world; but in higher realms that is the default.

I think part of the problem is visionaries seeing higher worlds and not understanding that this world is not meant to be perfect.

Our job is to see what is invisible.

To raise our own vibrations so that we are living in those higher realms.

Think of it this way: we're in the public bathroom at a movie theater. It stinks and it's germy.

No need to complain about it. Just leave. It's cleaner in the lobby.

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GODwins76 -4 points ago +1 / -5

This board is full of quitters! Yuck!

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Fishdicks_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

So fucking cool to hear lol. How did one even get based back then?

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Rothbard 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have no idea. We are Australians as well so there was no Alex Jones or anything. I think she came to ancap on her own, muslims she worked for muslims, not sure about the pedo stuff I think she just heard it from some old girl in her sewing club or something and figured it made sense. Then once you start looking at all the creepy old cunts you go yeah for sure.

O yeah she lived in the UK during the 70s Enoch Powell and Thatcher. She was a big Enoch Powell fan.

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MAGAliths45 37 points ago +37 / -0

I cant even imagine having been awake in 2005 my brother. We are many now happy to be with you

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shbuc73 39 points ago +39 / -0

That's the year I red pilled.. was in the military, 15 years in and woke up to all the corruption that I found myself a part of. I still seethe at the fact that Barry's signature is on my retirement paperwork.

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FuckChinaJoe 24 points ago +24 / -0

The military is the most corrupted of all. They don’t deserve our brave soldiers who want to serve this country. There are several trillion dollars short in Pentagon’s Iraq war spending. That’s about 10,000 dollars per American.

While our young and brave soldiers are fighting for pointless wars in Iraq based on a false allegation of WMD manufactured by Pentagon, politicians, and New York Times, the heads of our military are having parties with bankers, military contractors, and fucking young girls with the corrupt money. My brother fought the gulf war in 1990s, and he tells his son to never join the military.

Vietnam is even more fucked up. They ask you to wipe out villages of women and children, leaving our soldiers with mental illness they’d never recover from. Estimated 100k veterans committed suicide for what they were asked to do in Vietnam. Nobody was held responsible.

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GODwins76 7 points ago +7 / -0

This.

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MAGAliths45 10 points ago +10 / -0

oeff that must be painful...

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Farage_massage 6 points ago +6 / -0

It Was this event, but probably took a few years for it to become absolutely apparent what was going on. The Patriot act and all. I recall seeing the famous shot of the Taliban fighter getting shot with an AK by the Northern Alliance and thinking “what the fuck does this have to do with Saudis hijacking planes?”

We spent trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives killing medieval shepherds with next to zero net gain 20 years on.

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Trump2024 5 points ago +5 / -0

Thank you for your service. God bless you for your dedication to our great country.

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full_on_malarkey 23 points ago +23 / -0

For me it was 2012, when the GOP did to Ron Paul what the DNC did to Bernie Sanders just a few years later.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 12 points ago +12 / -0

My eyes were fully opened to the depths of the misleadia propaganda in 2012 during the Trayvon Martin case. That was a huge red pill.

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MAGAliths45 6 points ago +6 / -0

For me it was the political assassination of Prof. Dr. Pim Fortuyn. He was set the win the election when he got shot.

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Thep1mp 2 points ago +2 / -0

Shit.... some of us have been awake for twice that long and longer.

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America_No_1 5 points ago +5 / -0

Funny, I trusted the media as if 15 years ago, but was very distrustful of ALL politicians since I was very young- mid 90s...

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thelastlast 73 points ago +73 / -0

for instance, most people dont realize all their ideas about love and relationships come from Hollywood.

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RichardKimball 42 points ago +42 / -0

And pornhub.

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making_upvotes 16 points ago +16 / -0

Or that the gulf of tonkin never happened... You know the very thing that got us into vietnam.

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thelastlast 17 points ago +17 / -0

or that Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen by our government..

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Prometheus76 11 points ago +11 / -0

Or that China is communist now because people in FDR's administration delayed and sidetracked weapons that were supposed to go to the Chinese Nationalists who were in control of Beijing. They ran out of supplies and were overrun by the communists. They fled to Taiwan and that's why Taiwan considers itself independent from China.

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OtherwiseSafe 8 points ago +8 / -0

or even what the USS Liberty is

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WitnessMe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doh lol

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Oldnormal 9 points ago +9 / -0

Could you expand on that?

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Oldnormal 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thanks I ask because I’m still deprograming myself. Could you recommend anything else to watch to get more of an idea of more accurate relationship/love values?

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Prometheus76 8 points ago +10 / -2

Study Orthodox Christianity courtship instead of "dating". It's about finding someone who will be your life partner, and physical attraction is pretty far down the list of important things.

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GODwins76 4 points ago +4 / -0

Seriously. Good cooking and great homemakers. Look for the intelligent ones.

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Prometheus76 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes. Clean room. And caring. And they treat waitstaff with respect in a restaurant.

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Prometheus76 4 points ago +4 / -0

You might want to check out this video written by CS Lewis called On "Sexual" Morality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBp8M8M4DMs

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Oldnormal 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh I know. He’s my biggest red pill buddy

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Dialectic 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you’re young, the reality is that the heavy emotional part of love is short. The “passion” part is about 2-3 years at first, then you get in a rhythm. It’ll comes and it goes.

It always went in one ear and out the other when older folks said love is about commitment. It really is though. You COMMIT to the promise you made before God. You commit to the self sacrifice. And you work every day to be a good husband. To protect, to work, to spend some time together, to help with chores, to be supportive, to make corrections as needed.

So it is important to date and find someone you want to be with, but don’t sleep with a date before marriage. And don’t view it as some pursuit of perfection in a spouse. You’ll both be working at improving each other. Find someone who you feel is a good friend, is attractive, and who isn’t crazy.

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RussianAgent13 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's just culture in general, isn't it? Different societies have different ideas. Hollywood just has undue influence.

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Prometheus76 3 points ago +3 / -0 (edited)

And diamond rings for a wedding band: bullshit. Used to be a gold ring worn on the right ring finger.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 17 points ago +18 / -1 (edited)

When I got far enough along in my career to become knowledgeable about my field, that's when I first became aware of how journalists are the people who couldn't get a job that required real knowledge, and that their reporting about things they didn't know was mostly wrong. And this was in the technical press.

When the 'Net became widely available in the 90's, new sources of information quickly sprouted up, and I realized that the Misleadia (CNN, et al) were mistaken more often than they were right, and that they ignored stories they didn't like. At first I thought it was for ratings: "if it bleeds, it leads...". But, I quickly figured out it was pushing an agenda, and that even the stories they did publish were edited to push you to believe a certain narrative.

I'm not surprised at what the Misleadia has become in the past 4 years. All they have done is take off their masks. But in doing so, they have red-pilled several members of my family -- they moved from center-left to center-right, simply by becoming so disgusted by the Misleadia's bias they turned it off and found alternate sources of news.

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tigressroars 9 points ago +9 / -0

“misleadia” is an excellent term! We need to spread it far and wide.

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DisgustedByMisleadia -1 points ago +1 / -2

I think I invented it about a decade ago, and I've been seeing it used more and more often. However, some of the others may have been parallel inventions. My goal is to get it into a dictionary, i.e.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/lamestream

I remember using "lamestream" in a throwaway comment long ago, completely unaware that Rush Limbaugh had been using it, as I've never listened to his radio show. I honestly don't know who used it first.

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DisgustedByMisleadia -1 points ago +1 / -2

That's a very succinct way to sum up my posting, and accurately describes how I felt every time I read an article about a subject or topic that I knew well.

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DarkMemeDuck 15 points ago +15 / -0

Very true. Most of what you think you know is wrong.

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Nancypelosisoldliver 13 points ago +14 / -1

The bible says to question EVERY SINGLE THOUGHT that comes into your head. Jesus knew exactly what is happening. If your not questioning literally EVERYTHING you're not questioning enough in my humble opinion.

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dnile1000bc 8 points ago +8 / -0

Don't assume anything you know is the truth. Society has fed you bullshit on many, many things.

This is so true. For example it took Gary Taubes years to get through the lies and indoctrination about nutrition. In fact newspapers are still spreading lies purely based on people's ignorance of epidemiological methods.

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HonkThatBitch 72 points ago +72 / -0

Those of us that have been awake for 20 years have been gaslit for that long. People who called me a conspiracy theorist a decade ago now ask me what’s actually going on. It’s been a lonely time until 4 years ago, I am so glad you are all here now.

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Nancypelosisoldliver 20 points ago +20 / -0

Dang man I'm only 22. You've been awake almost as long as I've been alive. I woke up from this stuff in 2016 when I was probably 18 or so. Thats wild.

The radicalized idiots still think we're flat earthers so don't think we're out of the woods yet 😂 we're growing though thank God. People are going to start listening to what we have to say before theyre as willing to write us off as some kind of fringe conspiracy theorists because cnn told them that. Sad!

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Prometheus76 8 points ago +8 / -0

Fun thought about "flat earth". As far as human experience goes, the earth IS flat. When you build a building, you never take into account the "curvature of the earth". A related idea is that experientially, as a human, the sun comes up and the sun goes down. The idea of heliocentrism is a method for abstracting and atomizing the human away from their everyday experience as a method for subverting them and demoralizing them.

The "enlightenment" was anything but.

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Nancypelosisoldliver 5 points ago +5 / -0

I saw this video from this guy that got an award at some flat earth convention and I shit you not his theories were actually pretty intriguing 😂😂

I dont think the earth is flat but I shit you not if it was that guy was probsbly closer than anyone else. I appriciated his theories. Free speech is dope.

The bible doesn't say what shape the earth is, it just calls it earth, since the beggining. I dont think God cares about the shape. I think he cares more about trying to save us. That being said, it was definitely interesting to see how these flat earth theories are being ironed out over the years lmao.

You're right. It makes no difference to us, while we just walk around in our day to day lives. It doesn't really matter what shape it is. Although I'm still pretty solidly in the sphere earth camp haha. Its still interesting to see what people come up with "if the earth was flat" every now and again.

It would be so funny if we all died and went to heaven and God was just up there. All mad that he tried to prove to us that the earth was flat but none of us would believe him

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Prometheus76 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think of it more like this: trying to impose the idea of "earth is spherical if you go out into space" is a way of abstracting humans away from their own experience, and getting them to doubt their own experience, which makes them more suggestible to those who are pushing the idea that humans can't trust their own experience and must rely on "scientists" to tell them how the world really works. This really did start with heliocentrism, and that's why heliocentrism was considered so evil at first. It's not that the church couldn't except what astronomers were learning. It's that it was moving people away from their own experiences and into the hands of the new "priesthood" of scientists.

In other words, I don't think it's an "either earth is spherical OR earth is flat" situation. Both are true, depending on your point of view. If you are on the moon looking back at the earth, then sure, it's spherical. But in your day to day life? The earth is flat.

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Nancypelosisoldliver 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ah I see exactly what youre saying.

Because you haven't flown out into space to observe the shape of the earth then you have to trust scientists who also haven't done that and what they say the shape is.

I think another situation something similar like that happens is like with the fake news. They tell you to trust them and not anyone else yet all they do is sit there and read from a script and get paid. The idea that someone probably knows something better than you so you should listen to them rather than thinking for yourself first.

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Prometheus76 2 points ago +2 / -0

YES. EXACTLY.

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TinyOxKing 1 point ago +1 / -0

At school, I had an Idea for a tee shirt that goes along the lines of:

Front: "I'm the center of the universe" Back: "I make my own Coordinate system"

Still want to make it.

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OtherwiseSafe 7 points ago +7 / -0

The attack on the idea of a "conspiracy" was very, very successful despite that being the exact nature of humans through all of recorded history -- to conspire to get what they want.

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Nancypelosisoldliver 3 points ago +3 / -0

Bingo

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Californian-4-Trump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly how I feel. Nice to have some company to share the truth with.

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Thep1mp 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yup, right there with you. Probably been almost 30 years for me.

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stormcloud 47 points ago +48 / -1

Nah; my dad pretty much told it to me straight a few years after I stopped believing in Santa Claus: everything's a racket. Of course, I refused to take it to heart until I turned 20 or so, and started noticing...the old man was right!

PS. everybody DOES have an agenda...some are just more innocent and wholesome than others (that sweet person at work? their agenda is to be well-liked and thought of...that's not so bad; the scheming backstabber? not such an innocent or nice); my agenda posting this? To get upvotes, of course -- that's probably neutral in the grand scheme of things ;)

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bangbus 23 points ago +23 / -0

Upvotes are nonsense. Your agenda is to share your experience to help shape someone’s opinion because you’re a good dude.

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stormcloud 9 points ago +10 / -1

Thanks, but for one: I'm a chick, not a dude. And for another: I'm not going to kid myself (or you either!) into fancying the reach of my influence or the quantity/quality of my character (always know yourself and at least there's one person in the world who won't fool you -- another of my dear old dad's lessons).

And you have a very naughty username.

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bangbus 7 points ago +7 / -0

Everyone is a “dude.” And everyone is a “guy.”

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stormcloud 7 points ago +7 / -0

Ah, darling, but I'm not an "everyone" ;)

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UpTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah damn, time to add stormcloud to LGBTQIA

LGBTQIAS

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stormcloud 4 points ago +4 / -0

No, I'm married and have a bunch of kids. I'm just old. Don't feel badly though; we had our fun (my husband is quite the charming fellow -- think Germanic, auburn haired, Treat Williams...with an awful temper, a jaded outlook, and a lot of combatives training...he's always been perfect for me!)

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stormcloud 3 points ago +3 / -0

Of course. People aren't motivated purely by money and status in the process of doing good either (that's why you can't base foreign or domestic policy purely on economics or self-interest -- a man may rally around or revolt against a cause knowing that he will be sacrificed or will have to sacrifice something for the cause). Usually, especially, with the baser instincts you do have the more base desires, such as wealth. Therefore "follow the money" does have some credence when it comes to corruption and evil deeds, but pure malice does play a part. Evil also eventually feeds upon itself: there is never enough money or power to satiate; there must always be something more. A lot of people don't understand that; it's why they can't comprehend the depths of the badness...there is never enough once set out upon that road. These are some of the wealthiest, most powerful, most influential people in the world -- they've "got it all" -- and yet nothing will ever be enough for them. They could destroy the world and everything in it, even themselves, and still in their final moments wish they could have collapsed the universe!

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DaddySmooth 6 points ago +6 / -0

Take my upvote for being an honest Patriot. We need more of you! My agenda... bootleg off your upvotes. :)

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stormcloud 3 points ago +3 / -0

Take the upvote and cheers!

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Prometheus76 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ready for an interesting twist on Santa Claus? If you write Santa a letter, Santa will write you back. If you see two people, and one of them is wearing shorts and a t-shirt, and the other one has a white beard and a red hat and a red suit, you think "Santa". If you are talking to someone dressed as Santa (and you know what that looks like), you expect him to say "HO HO HO" and if he starts talking about his car insurance, you know you're no longer talking to Santa. You're talking to Steve. In other words, Santa is real, he has an identity, you know that identity, and you can interact with that identity.

Santa is like the mayor. There is a mayor in your city. When you go to City Hall and walk into the mayor's office, you are not talking with Bob, your neighbor. You are talking with the mayor, and he can speak for the city. The mayor is real, it has an identity, and that identity is separate from whoever the mayor in your town is right now, although intertwined with that person at times.

Another example of the same concept: a city. A city has boundaries, and you can know if you are in a city or not. You can put out the trash, and the city will empty the trash, and put the garbage cans back on the curb. If you don't pay your water bills, the city will turn off your water. Now, it's actually someone who works for the city that comes to your house and turns the valve, but I could also say the city is turning off your water, and you'd understand what I meant. So the city is real and you can interact with the city and the city will punish you if you don't pay your bills.

One more example: marriage. If two people are at dinner together and they both have wedding rings on, you assume they're married to each other. Married couples act differently than dating couples. And if a marriage ends, the divorce is very devastating and causes great harm to everyone involved. So marriage, and divorce, are very real. They have real, long-lasting effects on people, and people who are married act differently than people who are not married.

You may be interested in learning more about the traditional mindset and start challenging your concepts of "what is real".

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stormcloud 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have no idea what you mean by "the traditional mindset". But: it's always been St. NIcholas (who was pretty badass by the way) who was the real St. Nicholas, and the Coca-Cola Santa was just a childhood fancy my parents indulged me in because they loved me and liked to give gifts on the holidays -- plus it was "the American" thing to do. So Santa went away; Christmas stayed (and I learned to love it better as I grew up anyway and understood the reality of that).

I have no problem with calling my mayor "Bob" in his office -- or calling him a worthless little shit, to his face (I'm afraid my mayor doesn't like me; I've been a bad girl! likely won't get a Christmas card this year). Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do, and must always remember that Bob got voted into office...and he can be voted out. Neither mayor nor Bob got crowned king of anything (except maybe "king of the spineless dipshits" in my town's particular case).

The water thing is a clever exercise in semantics -- good one. However, I'm quite confused and have no idea what you're trying to say about couples eating dinner and how that relates to divorce. I'm quite happily married, have been for a long time (we understand each other; in my opinion a key element); we don't eat out often because we both hate being around a lot of people or getting seated in the front -- totally ruins the experience for both of us, makes us cranky.

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Prometheus76 1 point ago +1 / -0

What I'm trying to say is that there are entities that have identities that are larger than a person, and that you interact with those entities all the time, so they are real. Saying "Santa isn't real" is a ridiculous statement, when you can interact with Santa as an entity, recognize Santa as an entity, and know if someone is dressed as Santa or not. Your brain has been wrecked by modernism, and you don't even know what that means.

There are entities with intelligence, with members of their body (citizens in a city, or members of a family), and with identities that are larger than a person, and that those identities, those entities are real. I was trying to open your mind to that, but I've obviously failed.

Good luck in your travels.

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merelymeek 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

I don't think you failed. What you wrote appeared to me like a primer on basic epistemology and thinking in epistemological terms..

For example, using your mayor example, we can separate that there is a "title" of "Mayor" that may be attributed, somewhat arbitrarily, to an individual and the "act" of being "mayor" which may also be attributed to an individual but only if that individual fulfills the obligations and duties expected of and assigned to the office of Mayor.

As such, an individual can be both the Mayor and not the mayor simultaneously. Most people recognize implicitly that "sticking feathers in your butt does not make you a chicken," they just don't think about it in abstract terms. Historically I think this is because our culture is built heavily around proverbs and stories that we hope, in their judicious application, might result in a better tomorrow.

There is an appeal to saying more with fewer words. Stories can contain much wisdom but they're infinite, often internally inconsistent, and time-consuming. Compared to using philosophy, stories can represent a significant road-block to the consistent application of reason. It's the difference between having to remember a thousand different stories (a posteriori) to inform your actions versus operating from a single (much smaller) set of (a priori) principles.

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stormcloud 2 points ago +2 / -0

And...some...body...downvoted me for this -- my personal confession and truth? I feel...triggered and verklempt!!!

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Frankincense 41 points ago +41 / -0

I got redpilled by Iran-Contra back in the day. That was Reagan. I figured if they could get away with that, then they could get away with anything.

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jason73ug 31 points ago +31 / -0

yup . this. i remember ollie north on the news every day. that was a big red pill even though i was pretty young. then the whole OKC bombing/ruby ridge/ waco era sealed the deal for me .its good to see everybody else finally opening their eyes

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Frankincense 20 points ago +20 / -0

Yes! Until Trump came along, I never thought anyone could do anything about it----which is why we can never give up. 70 + million can see now, and soon the fake media will be smashed to bits.

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shbuc73 14 points ago +14 / -0

9/11 did it for me... plane hitting the pentagon didnt pass the sniff test

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OtherwiseSafe 4 points ago +4 / -0

That woke Alex Jones and also Timothy McVay - they each went different routes with it though.

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OtherwiseSafe 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was 12 or so - I used to have an Oliver North for President poster on my wall

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RussianAgent13 7 points ago +7 / -0

They used the left-right dichotomy to keep us under control and fighting one another so we would only notice abuses from "the other side". Republicans ignored Iran-Contra. Democrats ignored the Clinton Crime family, and both sides ignored rigged voting machines sold to the highest bidder.

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anthemstander 4 points ago +4 / -0

Me too. I was sure it would be like Watergate and people would wind up in jail. Boy was I naive. I was also about 13 at the time, though.

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Johnfox13 2 points ago +2 / -0

Remember Mel Brooks? I believed everything I heard that he was bad and irredeemable or a like e racist or something. It’s only the last few years of supporting Trump and treating the media as fucking village idiots that I began to doubt everything. If a media organization earns trust over time maybe I’ll change my mind but as it is now, they are monopolized to deliver pure propaganda and social justice/racial critical theory. Also Godless.

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Jadeity2 36 points ago +36 / -0

Chomsky, though a flaming leftist, pointed out how consent is manufactured decades ago. So did Orwell, albeit in a fictional context.

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bangbus 16 points ago +17 / -1

Chomsky is a flaming leftist, but a smart dude. If he wasn’t such a hardcore leftist he’d absolutely love Trump.

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RussianAgent13 16 points ago +16 / -0

No one can say Chomsky isn't a super genius. It's just unfortunate that, as Thomas Sowell says, so many smart people have blinders on to areas they don't understand and think they can still speak on those topics. People are infatuated by the cult of expertise and Intelligentsia.

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stormcloud 3 points ago +4 / -1

Chomsky should have stuck with linguistics.

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TaxDollarsHardAtWork 32 points ago +33 / -1

You'll get somewhat used to it after a while. The biggest problem you'll have is with interacting with those still in The Slumber.

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ChicagoMAGA 15 points ago +15 / -0

Does it ever get better? I live in a big city and most of my associates are white collar professionals so I am rather isolated.

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stormcloud 6 points ago +6 / -0

It will if you don't take it too personally. Most people are generally decent enough (didn't say they were "good"; everybody is a bit of a fucker when you get down to it, even the saints, who are few in number, haven't been spotless!) -- they want a nice life full of nice things and to be thought of as nice. What they don't want is to rock the boat and cause trouble for themselves and risk all that nice-ness. Can't say that I blame them for that; it isn't illogical to want such things. And it is exactly that very human desire that makes so much sense (mentally, emotionally, materially, etc.) that is the greatest vulnerability to be exploited by the bastards that wish to rule us all...because it is so rational and human a thing to do.

Once you realize that, then it doesn't grate so very much. Otherwise you'll just give yourself indigestion and a headache.

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TaxDollarsHardAtWork 0 points ago +1 / -1

The more people you wake up the better it gets.

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FuckChinaJoe 27 points ago +27 / -0

Thanks to CIA and their great idea of state-media integration in 1950s.

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RussianAgent13 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thanks Bush.

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Kekistan_United 25 points ago +25 / -0 (edited)

sort of.

i grew up reading and referencing a 1960-70-era set of encyclopedia

its always fun to read from it about things like say the west gaza area.

wherein egypt and jordan controlled it for decades. and others before them...

then i then 70s the notion that palestine had always been there came up...

i guess nobody cared until after ww2 and suddenly its all 'freedom for palestine'

my sides... maybe for those with history written in pencil, sure.

the fascist groups that wanted you to get away from printed source material

are also the ones to rewrite, censor and destroy history and books.

so while im not surprised at all that, i am at the extend and depth of the corruption

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 22 points ago +23 / -1

Yep. It’s a bit of an existential crisis. I realized for years that the media was super biased and lies sometimes, but the Covington Catholic shit was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Blatant, outright, easily provably-false lie and they smeared Nick Sandmann anyway. I couldn’t believe it.

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bangbus 12 points ago +12 / -0

The media exists just to push a narrative. The money is secondary to many of the owners of media assets. And a lot of them, like cable news, have a built in annuity stream from cable subscribers.

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RussianAgent13 3 points ago +3 / -0

And a lot of them, like cable news, have a built in annuity stream from cable subscribers.

Perhaps that is one path (of many) we can use to break them up.

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bangbus 1 point ago +1 / -0

Absolutely. Cut that cord.

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MAGAliths45 21 points ago +21 / -0

I was where you are now a couple years ago. The good news is that you are getting to chance to find new things you like. I went from a Hiphop/rap fan to having my preset song in my car be Hank Williams the thirds - country heroes. I used to binch tv shows every night now I watch Bongino or other podcasts. I was unhealthy and didnt work out. I ran two half marathons this week just “going for a run” not even training although I did finish a race spring 2019. I am also now a member of a shooting club and took up windsurfing again. Just expand your possibilities and dont expect to change in a day ok? cheers

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Dgilles111 17 points ago +20 / -3

I was that weirdo kid saying dont go to college, dont get married or even have kids. Dont believe teachers, dont trust anything. So this is becoming vindication to my many haters.

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UpTrump 7 points ago +7 / -0

The left has tried and succeeded to get men to hate the idea of marriage by rigging every institution against them. Family courts, to start

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BlmAnimalFarmFodder 17 points ago +17 / -0

Now you get to start wondering what else we were and are still lied to about. Victor's write the history books and shape the narratives.

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tufftoffee 13 points ago +13 / -0

Civil war for sure. WWII?

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DrCowboyPresident 14 points ago +14 / -0

WWII is the big one.

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tufftoffee 8 points ago +8 / -0

Wish I could talk to someone to get to the bottom of it without being called a Nazi or racist

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Trump2024 8 points ago +8 / -0

Don't discuss it on here. I jokingly said something regarding WWII that is a meme on 4Chan and it didn't go over so well with the mods.

I visit 4Chan pretty much daily and sometimes my real world filter doesn't engage quickly enough after leaving there. Any anon's on TDW know exactly what I mean.

If you want extremely raw information and some absolute bullshit about WWII check out /pol/

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tufftoffee 4 points ago +4 / -0

Dont worry. If I was going to discuss it, it would be over PMs. I just want to talk about it with someone with this community as opposed to 4chan or radicals on Telegram.

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Trump2024 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok, cool. Remember that just because you have free speech doesn't mean you should use free speech in some places.

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Oprah_Windbag 3 points ago +4 / -1

Google.

Operation Paperclip

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MouthAgapeForBLMJizz 1 point ago +3 / -2

Can you elaborate? Genuinely curious.

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BlmAnimalFarmFodder 10 points ago +10 / -0

The press is not for the people, rather to shape public opinion. The press is ONLY beholden to the elite they answer to and serve. It is not you they fear, but it is you they hate.

This isnt new. Here are some warnings from nearly 100 years ago.

"They talk about press freedom, when in fact all these newspapers have one owner and the owner, in any case, is the sponsor. This press then shapes public opinion. These political parties don't have any differences at all... "

".. It is a small rootless international clique that is turning the people against each other, that does not want them to have peace..."

Some VERY interesting things to be discovered if one is willing to read and look into testimony. It's hard to even process at first, but what you have to keep at the front of your mind is this. We are lied to daily and told what to see, even when we have evidence showing something completely different than their narrative.

If Kyle Rittenhouse had happened 20 years ago, we would have accepted the white supremacist mass shooter narrative without a second thought. We now have the ability to capture hundreds of videos from different perspectives showing the truth, and yet they still try and lie.

This isnt the first time in history they've done this, its just the first time there's been mass awareness of their propaganda.

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MouthAgapeForBLMJizz 2 points ago +4 / -2

Can you elaborate? Genuinely intrigued.

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incogneato 17 points ago +17 / -0

REMEMBER THIS FEELING

THIS is what the screaming reeeing lefties are all fighting so hard to reject.

See, you and the rest of us here have accepted the fact that we were lied to for decades by all the sources you described. We know that wasn't our fault and now that we know about it, we just want it all cleaned up so it never happens again.

But the other ones simply cannot accept this. Their worldview is shattering and they have been thrown completely off balance. That's why they resist and resist and resist and scream that we're all liars and ESPECIALLY Trump is a huge liar and everything he says is a lie -

NOW YOU SEE WHERE TDS REALLY COMES FROM

thank you for this post - this is exactly what is wrong with so many of our families and friends, and might help many here to understand them a little better

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Onedude123 15 points ago +15 / -0

Get ready It will be hard to have a regular conversation you’ll have to withhold much of your opinions to be able to function, especially if you start digging the more and deeper rabbit holes.

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Figs 14 points ago +14 / -0

First time ? 🤓

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ModsBanPaleos 14 points ago +14 / -0

Remember in the 90s and early 2000s when they were truing to push the “sensitive man” that supposedly women wanted? Such bullshit

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benfordslaw 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's a great development, though. We're free fucking humans, under a God. That's a gorgeous thing.

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I_Used_to_be_me 12 points ago +12 / -0

Nope. Known it for so long that I'm more relieved that others are finally seeing it and no longer considering me crazy

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MamaLlama4DJT2020 5 points ago +5 / -0

My hub still thinks I’m in tinfoil hat territory but lately he’s asking what the latest is...

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Trumpnado_warning 11 points ago +11 / -0

Same. I don't want any part of it. Ulterior motives everywhere.

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benfordslaw 4 points ago +4 / -0

Damn right. Well put - logical thinking and truth-seeking isn't their true intent, despite gaslighting/confusing folks.

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WishdoctorsSong 11 points ago +11 / -0

We were on the wrong side of the Balkan conflict!

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dontbanus 9 points ago +9 / -0

Dude. Same. I hate movies, tv shows, and pop culture in general now. It’s become so lame and burning and is basically just shiny propaganda at this point.

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jarvis 9 points ago +9 / -0

I was 18 when 9/11 happened. I had friends die and others traumatized and fucked up forever because of the wars we fought aftwards.

I always thought 9/11 truthers were nuts.

So, guys, where's a good resource to look into what really happened on 9/11?

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shbuc73 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think lots of people, including myself, cut their teeth on the Loose Change documentaries..

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FuckChinaJoe 2 points ago +2 / -0

All the American MSM once celebrated the glorious and brave “religious freedom fighter” Osama Bin Laden. It is believed Bin Laden himself was funded and trained by CIA.

This old article here from BBC is pretty decent, but keep in mind BBC is part of the propaganda machine.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1670089.stm

Nobody knows what happened between US government and Osama to trigger 911. Also nearly every single Islamic extremist group is created by our government to do stuff different from what they eventually did, including ISIS who received fund directly from Obama.

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Qualmow 9 points ago +9 / -0

And it just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Silent weapo s for secret wars.

Once you question one thing and then start questioning everything, you realize how much of your life (from the earliest age) has been shaped by lies.

I guess we should have learned from that Santa Claus bullshit and applied it to everything.

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Probably-Pooping 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yep. It’s why I’m dumping all of my money into a private education for my kids. I’ll be damned if I let them get indoctrinated by woke assholes.

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ChicagoMAGA 7 points ago +7 / -0

I haven't been interested in socializing or talking with people who aren't red-pilled. I just don't even know what to say to them. I don't know if I ever will. I feel bad it took my as long as it did to be fully red-pilled. But I was young and impressionable, so I can forgive myself. I'm only in my mid 20s so not too late to the party.

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thelastlast 7 points ago +7 / -0

yeah. I didnt watch tv really anymore, but now I cant even bring myself to turn it on.

its all pretty fucked.

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hloblart 2 points ago +2 / -0

For those who didn't know "Deus Ex: The Conspiracy" is the title of the playstation 2 port of the first "Deus Ex" game

Also, fun fact: it was release for PC in June 2000, before 9/11. Due to a technical glitch, the texture of New York's skyline was cropped and excluded the Twin Towers.

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Hunterscrackbaby 7 points ago +7 / -0

I had this realization in late 2015. You can never go back. You can never close the box. Alex Jones gave me my redpill, in the form of a 2" wide suppository.

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AKGG 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same with Alex Jones, I first started listening to him like 11 years ago, and thought it was always a what if type situation, and the last 2 and a half years it all came back to me and everything he said, is now my reality. Wish I would have taken it more seriously back then. Once you step outside of the matrix, there is no unseeing it. What a wild ride.

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Cyphr 4 points ago +4 / -0

Soooo, you saying Alex Jones jammed a giant red pill up your ass? TMI dude...

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Hunterscrackbaby 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's the only way for him to give it when you don't take enough SUPER MALE VITALITY and VITAMIN MINERAL FUSION

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Californian-4-Trump 6 points ago +6 / -0

No. I’ve known this stuff for almost my whole life. But I will say it’s really nice to not feel so lonely anymore...

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GODwins76 3 points ago +3 / -0

truth

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FondueFerret 6 points ago +6 / -0

You found out the truth - it can be depressing to realize what's happening in this world (and has been for a long time). Luckily at least we have places like TD and many video games are still uncompromised ! The Resistance has begun! Stay strong :)

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DestroyerofCobwebs 5 points ago +5 / -0

It goes back a long, long way. The American people have been the subject of a massive propaganda campaign for the better part of a century.

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WishdoctorsSong 4 points ago +4 / -0

Know what's sad...the Euros have been hit even harder for longer. There's a reason they're so fucked up.

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americafirst1337 5 points ago +5 / -0

Good movie to watch: The Plot Against the President. It will make your blood boil but necessary to see.

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mixednuts86 5 points ago +5 / -0

Lol. Welcome to the Matrix.

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Mr_Man 5 points ago +5 / -0

I was. I'm over it.

Time to move on and save America.

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GODwins76 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah. It's time the world grows up.

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SonomaGA 4 points ago +4 / -0

welcome to the redpill

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eplettner 4 points ago +4 / -0

I grew up in the seventies/eighties, was OK then. Gor totally chucked in the 90s

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Lomaxw85 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was just thinking that.

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MedPede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Leftists live in an imaginary world where calling heart disease racist ( because it effects certain ethnic groups with a higher prevalence) cures the patient. Hence, they feel it is their duty to shove their ideals down everyone's throats.

It hasn't always been that way. Once agents discovered their artists made more money by proclaiming to champion various charities, they went full tilt on making sure everyone knew just how socially aware and active their artist was. For a couple of decades, this was purely a monetary decision. Through our socialist promoting schools, leftism was taught to our children as a social imperative.

We have to fix the schools if we want to fix the future. Every parent should have a choice on their child's education, and full equivalent vouchers should be available for those who don't want public education.

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TheQuickening 3 points ago +3 / -0

🐸🐇🕳️💊🤯

Keep digging!!!

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Vertical2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

Perfect time to start reading books hahaha.

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kekNation 3 points ago +3 / -0

In your entire education the only useful book they ever had you read was 1984.

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VoterIDMatters 2 points ago +2 / -0

i read Rush Limbaugh’s “The Way Things Ought To Be” and “See, I Told You So” when i was 12 so no