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posted ago by Maenard +34 / -0

[Edit: CHANCE of being cornered] One axiom of military action is that you want to avoid cornering the enemy. That may sound counterintuitive, but the principle is based on natural reactions to stress. "Fight or flight," basically.

A cornered animal will fight to the death. Very few will fight if running is an option, because most predators are actually cowards.

You can also see a glimpse of this in the form of plea deals. The big charge is made, but the defendant would fight it tooth and nail, so a little pathway is formed for them to scurry into and escape the greater threat. In military action, leaving a path for the enemy to escape is a way of breaking morale. Saruman's dumb ass pinned the people of Rohan in Helm's Deep, which is why Theodin and Aragorn rode out the way they did. Their back was literally to a wall, so they only had one option. (Technically there were caves, but no escape large enough to hold hundreds of people and their stuff.)

Dominion is that escape route for the fraudsters of the Left. It doesn't matter if Dominion systems changed a single vote, because it just became an easy fall guy for the people who did the fraud at the local level. "Oh, it must have been Dominion!" Is what they will say now, rather than "I'm going to fight to the death to stop any audits or recounts!"

The bigwigs will still fight the audits, but you should not underestimate the power of "We are going to do these audits whether you help or not. The only thing you need to figure out, is whether it was Dominion switching votes, you switching votes, or you AND Dominion switching votes. Who could blame you if this program was responsible for all the fraud, right?"

I don't know if this is happening, but I know blaming the rampant fraud on a system that the local Democrat poll workers unknowingly participated in, must be a mighty tempting way out of something so vile as election fraud. Even if it is only preparation for the inevitable accusation, "it wasn't me, it was the one armed machine!" will be on their minds. (But after the fraud is revealed... get ready for some "and ill whisper... NO." Action!)

[Edit: CHANCE of being cornered] One axiom of military action is that you want to avoid cornering the enemy. That may sound counterintuitive, but the principle is based on natural reactions to stress. "Fight or flight," basically. A cornered animal will fight to the death. Very few will fight if running is an option, because most predators are actually cowards. You can also see a glimpse of this in the form of plea deals. The big charge is made, but the defendant would fight it tooth and nail, so a little pathway is formed for them to scurry into and escape the greater threat. In military action, leaving a path for the enemy to escape is a way of breaking morale. Saruman's dumb ass pinned the people of Rohan in Helm's Deep, which is why Theodin and Aragorn rode out the way they did. Their back was literally to a wall, so they only had one option. (Technically there were caves, but no escape large enough to hold hundreds of people and their stuff.) Dominion is that escape route for the fraudsters of the Left. It doesn't matter if Dominion systems changed a single vote, because it just became an easy fall guy for the people who did the fraud at the local level. "Oh, it must have been Dominion!" Is what they will say now, rather than "I'm going to fight to the death to stop any audits or recounts!" The bigwigs will still fight the audits, but you should not underestimate the power of "We are going to do these audits whether you help or not. The only thing you need to figure out, is whether it was Dominion switching votes, you switching votes, or you AND Dominion switching votes. Who could blame you if this program was responsible for all the fraud, right?" I don't know if this is happening, but I know blaming the rampant fraud on a system that the local Democrat poll workers unknowingly participated in, must be a mighty tempting way out of something so vile as election fraud. Even if it is only preparation for the inevitable accusation, "it wasn't me, it was the one armed machine!" will be on their minds. (But after the fraud is revealed... get ready for some "and ill whisper... NO." Action!)
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BrightWinter 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm sure the Trump team is now building up a treasure trove of highly incriminating comms between all the baddies. They already have everything from before election. I think they are dragging it out, just to let them incriminate themselves even more.

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motrhed3 1 point ago +1 / -0

using fiction as an example to explain military strategy?

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Maenard [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can't tell if this is a joke or not. People have trouble conceiving of situations where options are limited to fight instead of fight and flight. I don't really see a difference between fictional examples or hypothetical ones. Both are for illustrative purposes. Helm's Deep is a perfect example, since the guy that wrote LOTR fought in WWI (the Somme, specifically)

Here is a quote from Sun Tzu... "Thus is the way of maneuvering your army: do not fight against enemies who took higher ground, do not face enemies while they're charging down hill, do not pursue enemies when they fake defeat, do not go head to head with enemies elite troops, do not take bait from the enemies, do not continue attack enemies that fall back to their own country; when you surround your enemies, leave an opening; do not push too hard on the enemies who are desperate. That's the basic principle of maneuvering your army."

In a paradoxical twist, WE are the ones in a corner now because the Left has almost total control over the levers of power. They didn't leave us any room to run so we HAD to fight back. I'm of the belief that Trump and his team have taken steps to ensure Democrat deserters have a clear path to safety.

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motrhed3 1 point ago +1 / -0

why not find real life examples for what you are talking about? because then we can use things like the power rangers as examples of courage. we are not the left, let them deal in fantasy. I get your point, but I dont think you get mine.

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Maenard [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I get your point, it just doesn't apply. I'm not talking about nebulous attributes. The Two Towers scene is a specific example of military strategy. Unless you have the video footage of an actual battle, there is functionally no difference between fiction and reality when it comes to history, since history is ultimately a retelling of events.

Sidney Blumenthal never went to Vietnam. All of his "war stories" went from nonfiction to fiction as soon as it was revealed that he is a lying piece of shit.
All Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Japanese, Central American, and European myth is fictional, but it still has uses and applications that are relevant.

If the power rangers were backed into a corner and forced to fight for their life, it doesnt make the example any less illustrative. You might understand the problem with finding real world, non-dramatized examples of this military tactic. If someone gets surrounded and cornered, they probably aren't going to live to tell the tale. If people break and flee out of a specificly opened point, they also won't tell the tale. Desertion is a crime that gets capital punishment in almost every army in history.

Ultimately, if people understand the subject, it works. Change the men of Rohan to South Koreans and American soldiers, then change the orcs to North Koreans. Change Helm's Deep to K16, within sight of Mount Sorak. Its still an animal backed into a corner that can't run, forcing them to fight with a complete lack of self preservation. Change it to aliens and space marines on planet Xykron 89 and the situation doesn't change. You can't just yell out about fictional situations being fictional and expect to be taken seriously, just like yelling out logical fallacies instead of addressing the actual point. This isn't about the magic of friendship or using time travel, and a siege is hardly uncommon.

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marrkus_of_mrkopalj 0 points ago +1 / -1

The program isn't any more responsible than the algorithm. These systems are written by people and if the system behaves a certain way, it is because the company created it that way.

Certainly politicians want an easy way out and we know there is no paper trail.

If anything, all methods of automated vote counting should be banned permanently.

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Maenard [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not talking about the politicians. I'm talking about the lowest level ballot counters that might have either known about the fraud or participated in it. Its like detectives doing interrogations of suspects who haven't confessed, but circumstantial evidence is leaning really hard against them.

There are tons of interrogation videos on YouTube that go something like this...

"Look, Bob. Sometimes we get angry. Sometimes we say and do things in the heat of the moment that we wish we could take back. The neighbors said your wife was always yelling at you and calling you names. If you actually did kill her, it would be completely understandable. Maybe I would do the same if I was in your shoes. She hurt you so bad, right, Bob? You were swinging the pan before you could stop yourself. I know you would never hurt her, but if you did, it wasn't actually your fault."

The suspect would never confess outright, so the detectives have to create an escape by providing sympathy. The detective supplies excuses that the suspect will use to confess, since guilt pushes most people towards confession. Any excuse, no matter how stupid, can tip the balance. If Trump and his team aren't using Dominion like that, they should be.

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marrkus_of_mrkopalj 1 point ago +2 / -1

I see your point.