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posted ago by jsg877 ago by jsg877 +5207 / -1

These are able to be found as a comment mentioned by searching for "Allegheny Sample Ballot" HOWEVER, I've been looking at other sample ballots and there is always an indicator that it is a sample ballot. These are blank. Even with the border watermarks. I have no idea if they actually would pass a tabulator or not, they are just too "official" if they are Samples. If a connection can be made proving these are not viable if printed out on the right paper, then I'll delete this post.

https://apps.alleghenycounty.us/website/PDF_GEN/GEN%20(2).pdf

THIS WEBSITE REQUIRES LOGIN CREDENTIALS BUT DUCKDUCKGO BYPASSED IT ENTIRELY

Replace the (2) with (1) or anything and you'll get a NEW BALLOT

YOU CAN DO THIS FOR EVERY PRECINCT IN THE COUNTY

I also FOUND THE OFFICIAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE PA STATE RETURN ENVELOPE.

ANOTHER FUNNY THING. https://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElections/Documents/Envelope-Guide.pdf

Try going to the documents section. You need a FUCKING LOG IN AND PASSWORD

Search for this in DuckDuckGo to find it "allegheny county mail in ballot return envelope guide"

Pede u/poxonall in comments mentions that its a redirect from a "Polling Place and Sample ballot". However, I can't find the sub-directories to navigate to that. And again, apps.alleghenycounty requires credentials to log in. As well as there being sample ballots in other locations that outright say so.I'm going to keep looking around.

****** Update 332pm EST: I was able to find the subdirectories that led to this page. Poxonall made a good point, these are very convincing sample ballots. And other sample ballots have an indicator of them being so I'm not sure if these would pass the ES&S tabulators or not. ******

Other sample PA ballots are found everywhere. I don't live in PA and I was trying to find inconsistencies in photos of the counties that were anomalous. If anyone has a leftover Mail in ballot and can compare it to the "sample" ones listed here that would be very helpful. AGAIN. These are listed as sample, and if we prove they are, I'll delete this post. But I just can't find a similarity between these ballots and actual SAMPLE ballots.

u/hold10forthebigguy says as an Alleghany County resident this looks identical to the ballot that he voted on. Also. The published date for this PDF date is Nov 3, 2020 as far as I can find.

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josiborg 4 points ago +4 / -0

Isn't this the "hack" that a few people found and pointed out on 4Chan that led to Chris Wray's primetime press conference? He said something like ~30 states need to tighten there online presence up because these things are happening. He called out Iran, Russia, China, etc but also dog whistles directed at anons doing the work that found these flaws

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jsg877 [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

I have no idea. I legit was trying to find an image of a sample Return envelope to look at images in news articles. To pinpoint Return envelopes that were not official. Yes, I think I did find some.

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day221 3 points ago +3 / -0

Question: why is this revelation significant? Can't people who got a ballot just photocopy it already or am I missing something that makes this even more of a problem than it already was?