Good job. I do wonder... as part of the post-election reconciliation, does anyone CHECK those folders to see if there is anything in them. And I think any sort of "Computer review" would need to be done with someone from both parties present. And it needs to be someone who understands what they are looking at.
When they came out IMMEDIATELY and said "oh it was the most secure election ever", I know that was crap, because they could not have done any audit / reconciliation by that time.
To me, they would have seemed to be more realistic if they had just pretended to check and see how it went. But I think they plan on being able to fool enough low-info peeps that pretending to care isn't necessary.
Our ballots in AZ always said right on them in past elections NOT to use sharpie type markers only black or blue ball point pens. Since I had to fill mine out at home because the freaking county MAILED them (despite us being on the NO MAIL IN list, something I verified myself 2 times), we used black ball point pens. And returned them in person. Asked for an investigation, and they called 1 day later and said we had requested mail in. WE DID NOT.
2 different county recorders also made videos I saw that said NO SHARPIES. I wish now I had read the dang instructions this year and took a picture of them, because I would bet dollars to donuts it says NO SHARPIES on the ballot.
I know it did in the past, because 3 cycles ago now--the same cycle I had to file a provisional because I had apparently already voted by mail, they tried to hand me a dang sharpie. I pointed out that the ballot said NO, and they hmmph'd and gave me a ball point stick pen...
I would wager if we looked at past elections, we would find a crap ton of shenanigans. I know the state claimed in 2016 that my provisional was accepted and filed, but they never told me what, if anything, was done about the mail in ballot they claimed I had used that I had NOT used.
The whole system is bad. I have never been a fan of electronic voting, mail in voting, early voting etc. I am really old school when it comes to voting. In person, with ID, ball point pen. Absentee only with a dang good reason and I have never had a good reason. We go out of our way to make sure we are in state when elections are scheduled.
The longer the votes are hanging around, the more time to pull shenanigans whether it involves making votes disappear, or making votes appear. The less paper trail, the more room for shady stuff in general.
It still bothers me that the state never gave me an answer last time as to what happened with that fraudulent mail in ballot. But after last time and this time, I have 0 trust in our election people here. They lied to me. Flat out.
Before we sent back the special election materials in July, I verified with them at the county recorder's office that the box I was checking really meant NO MAIL IN. I double checked our status on the website in August, weeks after returning the materials in person, and we were NO MAIL IN.
I checked again just before we headed back to AZ from Montana. We decided to head back a week early thankfully. Still listed as NO MAIL IN. And lo and behold, a few days after we got home--ballots in the mail. And then they tell me I asked for them? Seriously?
Hey, I think that is a strong argument... different settings would certainly affect votes, and I doubt they'd track system settings because of course they wouldn't.
I posted it a few times but it never got upvote traction. You seem savvy enough to understand what i am trying to get at and I'm curious what you think
Yep, I totally recognize the different strategies of exploit... I think a LOT was going on. Marked ['corrected'] ballots could be used to turn on vote shaving after judges tested it, and political dirty tricks like yours could be used to further alter the vote.
You make a good point about spreading the fraud into many avenues of attack to minimize the visibility of each one. That sounds like something the most extensive & inclusive voter fraud organization in the History of American Politics would do.
I think it's a good strategy. Cheat in several different ways so that even if caught for one way, it's not enough to overturn the results. You can also have your media heads parroting the same thing separately. Yeah, dead people voted, but no by enough to change the election. Yeah, there were software glitches, but not enough to change the election. Yeah, there was operator error, but not enough to change the election, etc...
I'm not sure, it would seem that would have to be a much more coordinated effort as ballot scanners would all have to be on the same page and carry out a very manual operation each time. I think it would probably be more efficient if they had the setting at one level, let the "problematic ballots" fail on ambiguous, and then clear out the NotCastImages folder and remove the physical copies afterwards, where they had ample time to amend the counts.
However, the fact that this even exists raises a ton of questions. There have been reports in Michigan that batches were completely rescanned on any error, so if you had an error mid-batch, then many in that batch were duplicated. These ambiguous errors seem to pause the batch scans, so that is very much possible.
Another point of concern is that if these are indeed networked then those images could easily be altered remotely, preventing any kind of forensic review.
Wa state dweller here. As I've stated over and over again. Wa would be red if it wasn't for dem dirty tricks. Nice work buddy. Glad you could get some info off of Wa SOS website. I'm sure its gone by now. They cover their tracks on everything. Long time mail in state. I even called to try to vote in person this go round. They told me to pound sand.
The democrats set up this voting machine scam really well. I have to give them credit. What kind of kickbacks they have been taking to waste tax dollars like this ?! do we really *need a voting machine?????
Good job. I do wonder... as part of the post-election reconciliation, does anyone CHECK those folders to see if there is anything in them. And I think any sort of "Computer review" would need to be done with someone from both parties present. And it needs to be someone who understands what they are looking at.
When they came out IMMEDIATELY and said "oh it was the most secure election ever", I know that was crap, because they could not have done any audit / reconciliation by that time.
To me, they would have seemed to be more realistic if they had just pretended to check and see how it went. But I think they plan on being able to fool enough low-info peeps that pretending to care isn't necessary.
Great analysis. With even rudimentary Validation of the process, there would be
BUMP THIS
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Our ballots in AZ always said right on them in past elections NOT to use sharpie type markers only black or blue ball point pens. Since I had to fill mine out at home because the freaking county MAILED them (despite us being on the NO MAIL IN list, something I verified myself 2 times), we used black ball point pens. And returned them in person. Asked for an investigation, and they called 1 day later and said we had requested mail in. WE DID NOT.
2 different county recorders also made videos I saw that said NO SHARPIES. I wish now I had read the dang instructions this year and took a picture of them, because I would bet dollars to donuts it says NO SHARPIES on the ballot.
I know it did in the past, because 3 cycles ago now--the same cycle I had to file a provisional because I had apparently already voted by mail, they tried to hand me a dang sharpie. I pointed out that the ballot said NO, and they hmmph'd and gave me a ball point stick pen...
I would wager if we looked at past elections, we would find a crap ton of shenanigans. I know the state claimed in 2016 that my provisional was accepted and filed, but they never told me what, if anything, was done about the mail in ballot they claimed I had used that I had NOT used.
The whole system is bad. I have never been a fan of electronic voting, mail in voting, early voting etc. I am really old school when it comes to voting. In person, with ID, ball point pen. Absentee only with a dang good reason and I have never had a good reason. We go out of our way to make sure we are in state when elections are scheduled.
The longer the votes are hanging around, the more time to pull shenanigans whether it involves making votes disappear, or making votes appear. The less paper trail, the more room for shady stuff in general.
It still bothers me that the state never gave me an answer last time as to what happened with that fraudulent mail in ballot. But after last time and this time, I have 0 trust in our election people here. They lied to me. Flat out.
Before we sent back the special election materials in July, I verified with them at the county recorder's office that the box I was checking really meant NO MAIL IN. I double checked our status on the website in August, weeks after returning the materials in person, and we were NO MAIL IN.
I checked again just before we headed back to AZ from Montana. We decided to head back a week early thankfully. Still listed as NO MAIL IN. And lo and behold, a few days after we got home--ballots in the mail. And then they tell me I asked for them? Seriously?
Get this to the top and get a manual recount!
An AUDIT. THEN, recount the LEGAL votes.
Hey, I think that is a strong argument... different settings would certainly affect votes, and I doubt they'd track system settings because of course they wouldn't.
Can you look into this idea:
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8Ej2BKn/antrim-county-clerk-explanation-/
I posted it a few times but it never got upvote traction. You seem savvy enough to understand what i am trying to get at and I'm curious what you think
Yep, I totally recognize the different strategies of exploit... I think a LOT was going on. Marked ['corrected'] ballots could be used to turn on vote shaving after judges tested it, and political dirty tricks like yours could be used to further alter the vote.
Either, or, or both.
You make a good point about spreading the fraud into many avenues of attack to minimize the visibility of each one. That sounds like something the most extensive & inclusive voter fraud organization in the History of American Politics would do.
I think it's a good strategy. Cheat in several different ways so that even if caught for one way, it's not enough to overturn the results. You can also have your media heads parroting the same thing separately. Yeah, dead people voted, but no by enough to change the election. Yeah, there were software glitches, but not enough to change the election. Yeah, there was operator error, but not enough to change the election, etc...
I'm not sure, it would seem that would have to be a much more coordinated effort as ballot scanners would all have to be on the same page and carry out a very manual operation each time. I think it would probably be more efficient if they had the setting at one level, let the "problematic ballots" fail on ambiguous, and then clear out the NotCastImages folder and remove the physical copies afterwards, where they had ample time to amend the counts.
However, the fact that this even exists raises a ton of questions. There have been reports in Michigan that batches were completely rescanned on any error, so if you had an error mid-batch, then many in that batch were duplicated. These ambiguous errors seem to pause the batch scans, so that is very much possible.
Another point of concern is that if these are indeed networked then those images could easily be altered remotely, preventing any kind of forensic review.
All explained in here: https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8q7YsAG/found-another-video-of-eric-coom/c/. This is the issue with adjudication of ballots and the threshold set which can be customized. Someone can easily change or not count ballots through this post-vote process.
Thank you for your service!
Get this to the TOP!
Was there not a recount in Arizona it would have picked this up?
Wa state dweller here. As I've stated over and over again. Wa would be red if it wasn't for dem dirty tricks. Nice work buddy. Glad you could get some info off of Wa SOS website. I'm sure its gone by now. They cover their tracks on everything. Long time mail in state. I even called to try to vote in person this go round. They told me to pound sand.
The democrats set up this voting machine scam really well. I have to give them credit. What kind of kickbacks they have been taking to waste tax dollars like this ?! do we really *need a voting machine?????