For some, the point is not knowing any better. Up to this point (and beyond) they have ignored every sign and bit of information, and have willfully chosen to be asleep. They are the perfect example of lemmings lining up to walk off a cliff. Up until the end, they will continue to be extremely proud of themselves, for pleasing the establishment and celebrities, whom they believe are their superiors.
I'll offer what might be a different perspective then some...going to be a little vague intentionally to not doxx myself. This turned into a novel, but maybe it will help someone form their own opinion.
I have a medical condition with my lungs that essentially puts me in the same risk group as if I was somewhere in my 70s (I am in my 20s). I have full lung function and was in the military for 6 years, I am just vulnerable to viruses like the Shanghai Shivers. I have accepted that if I catch it, I am either going to be miserable for a few weeks at home, or in the hospital on machines, with a 5% chance of being in the ground.
In Jan when this was just lingering around /pol/ and within China and the cruise ships I was fucking terrified. The reaction by the Chinese gov, people dying in the streets of China, burning bodies...I really thought this was going to be the world ending plague. Meanwhile NYT, CNN, MSDNC and the rest all said "Nothing to worry about coronaviruses are no big deal"
The narrative in the MSM started changing as the cases hit the USA, and then I got more worried for my health. I was washing my hands nearly every hour, reducing my time out and about. Cause ya know, I don't want to die. But it turns out if you just take the LITERAL OPPOSITE of what CNN is saying you are really close to reality.
"15 days to slow the spread" made sense to me as a good way to give the hospitals some time to get ready for the wave. Logical thinking will prevail. Build more beds, shelters, and get ready for a surge. As soon as it was noticed that NY wasn't using the ships, and the field hospitals were empty, and the nurses were so bored they were either getting fired, or twerking on TikTok....it became clear this was all a NWO push for control and tyranny.
Right around this time, we started learning more about the virus and it became obvious that it isn't world ending, vulnerable need to shelter and be protected, and we will move on as a society with some form of herd immunity or therapeutic. The narrative was really obvious when they started attacking any suggested treatment by the Trump admin.
I figured out how to order groceries online, started talking to my boss about work from home just in case it became risky in my area. Thinking that we would open back up, and then I as a at risk individual would be responsible for figuring my own shit out, with maybe some help from the government with grocery delivery or something if needed.
Then they kept shutting shit down and pushing " we cannot be normal till a vaccine" and "wear a mask or you're killing people!!". Shaming people for trying to be human, and using people like me as pawns for a narrative.
I have gotten a flu shot for the past 8+ years (required in military). I have not and will not this year due to the increased risk of catching Shanghai Shivers. I have never understood how/why a mask is supposed to stop a virus and when I tried to wear one around the house, my medical issue made me feel like I was jogging everywhere I went.
and even with myself being in a high risk group, I don't see how any of these government mandates are actually protecting me or others like me more than they are hurting a majority of the population. I'm staying away from crowds (never liked them much anyway) but I REFUSE to live in fear anymore. I did that, it was miserable and I cannot go back.
I will not be getting this vaccine, because even if there was no weird Great Reset agenda, this was a rushed vaccine that will likely have little to no effectiveness (like the flu shot). If you want it, you take it.
I will not be wearing a mask and within the last month or so I have begun verbally shaming any friends/family that do wear them. I get kicked out of the store, and am proud of it. I am trying to have the biggest Thanksgiving dinner possible, and an even bigger Christmas. I'm going to Take my vitamin D, take my Zinc and continue washing my hands, not hide in my basement.
Not a religious man, but I do pray on occasion. I figure if it's my time, then it's my time. Living in fear and stress hurts your immune system more than anything. I really wish the left would stop using people like me as political chess pieces to hurt a president they hate so much.
TLDR: fuck the mask, fuck the vaccine, fuck the CCPVirus, Trump 2020
I'm glad you shared this. This has been a ditto mark of my own timeline of viewpoint on the virus.
I started off taking the leaked info from China seriously around Christmas time. I slowly started stocking up on food as soon as I saw the Chinese lockdowns start. I realized it was all garbage after the two week lockdown was announced, but my college announced they'd be locked down for the remainder of the semester initially (2 months at that point). The mismatch between those two timelines really got my attention. We later found out that both timelines were lies (I'm in Michigan, so I'm STILL not back to class).
The thing that I'm angry about is what you pointed out actually and nobody seems to have noticed in non-TD circles. People and the government are using people like you to hide behind. Their own fear and mandates are supposedly all about the vulnerable, but they have done nothing to actually help you. They only do things to soothe themselves.
If these people actually wanted to help, then they'd come up with support methods that actually support you and those like you. For the immune compromised, they're at risk from basically everything and were at risk before the China Virus entered the stage. The answer is to make an accommodation system for them like we have for deaf people or ramps for wheelchairs. We've had the technology and the ability to make these systems for a lot of people, but none of these "leaders in the community" or Democrats who claim to fight for the disabled (or whatever PC term they use now) have done so.
Nothing has changed for the better for the people who are supposedly protected with these mandates.
"If these people actually wanted to help, then they'd come up with support methods that actually support you and those like you." Based. There were a couple countries that set up grocery delivery and stuff. Targeted relief.
This is my biggest problem with the whole thing being used as a pawn. I was FURIOUS at the ACB hearing with the dems bring the pictures out of people losing their healthcare. They are using at risk people the same way they use black and hispanic people. I'm a white dude, so I've never been a political chess piece until China virus and I fucking hate it.
I know it isn't true and I don't feel "guilty" about it, but part of me does feel bad that the effort to "protect" people like me is being used to damage my friends, neighbors and loved ones financially and via mental health. It's just gross.
Also, as a Pede in Oregon, I feel the living under a tyrant...we are back to full lock down tomorrow. And I feel like I have to remind you, please please please call/email your state reps, senators, county leadership, everyone. get your friends to do it, it is more important than voting was. You guys are potentially going to either save or doom our country. We got this.
I recovered from COVID. It was like a mid-level cold. No lung symptoms. Worst part was being stuck inside away from my family when I felt fine.
When I am no longer immune, I will skip this unless my health status changes. I would like to see this out for a few years. If I was 95 or had a serious issue that outweighed the risk of the disease I would consider it. My husband's aunt has severe COPD, I think she should get it.
My 70 year old mom, and 75 year old stepdad also had it. They are both pretty unhealthy, and it still didn’t effect them much. They only found out they had it, because my stepdad went to the hospital for his diabetes. When they found out he had Covid symptoms, they suggested he and my mom both get tested. Turns out they both had it, and it just felt like a regular flu, and went away in 2 weeks.
Exactly. I know well enough not to get injected with the remains of human sacrifice. We’ve been depending on our own immune system, since the beginning of time. I’ve never had a flu shot (nor my family) and we won’t be getting this injection.
As based-Polish meme says: let the Politicians get it first, if it works, some of us will feel safer, if it harmful to politicians and doesn't work, all of us will feel safer.
But I'm not taking an unknown cocktail, to fight a virus (lo) that we know nothing about, where the vaccines only have a percentage chance to work over a percentage chance to take.
Imagine taking seasonal flu vaccines, for a virus that changes hundreds of times a year -- when they have such a low immunization rate in the first place, for a Virus that's already mutated.
It works by providing human cells with the genetic instructions to make a surface protein of the coronavirus, which trains the immune system to recognize the real virus.
...Sounds like a recipe for future auto-immune disorders.
Going to play devil's advocate here. I won't reject the vaccine on principle. I will wait and make an informed decision based on reason and logic.
I will be looking at several factors. How safe is it, 2 months after general public availability? How hard is it being pushed or forced on people? Are the side effects worse than the virus? Will I be excluded from employment? Do I have to show vaccine papers to travel? How hard will it be to forge papers to get past the checkpoints?
For some, the point is not knowing any better. Up to this point (and beyond) they have ignored every sign and bit of information, and have willfully chosen to be asleep. They are the perfect example of lemmings lining up to walk off a cliff. Up until the end, they will continue to be extremely proud of themselves, for pleasing the establishment and celebrities, whom they believe are their superiors.
I'll offer what might be a different perspective then some...going to be a little vague intentionally to not doxx myself. This turned into a novel, but maybe it will help someone form their own opinion.
I have a medical condition with my lungs that essentially puts me in the same risk group as if I was somewhere in my 70s (I am in my 20s). I have full lung function and was in the military for 6 years, I am just vulnerable to viruses like the Shanghai Shivers. I have accepted that if I catch it, I am either going to be miserable for a few weeks at home, or in the hospital on machines, with a 5% chance of being in the ground.
In Jan when this was just lingering around /pol/ and within China and the cruise ships I was fucking terrified. The reaction by the Chinese gov, people dying in the streets of China, burning bodies...I really thought this was going to be the world ending plague. Meanwhile NYT, CNN, MSDNC and the rest all said "Nothing to worry about coronaviruses are no big deal"
The narrative in the MSM started changing as the cases hit the USA, and then I got more worried for my health. I was washing my hands nearly every hour, reducing my time out and about. Cause ya know, I don't want to die. But it turns out if you just take the LITERAL OPPOSITE of what CNN is saying you are really close to reality.
"15 days to slow the spread" made sense to me as a good way to give the hospitals some time to get ready for the wave. Logical thinking will prevail. Build more beds, shelters, and get ready for a surge. As soon as it was noticed that NY wasn't using the ships, and the field hospitals were empty, and the nurses were so bored they were either getting fired, or twerking on TikTok....it became clear this was all a NWO push for control and tyranny.
Right around this time, we started learning more about the virus and it became obvious that it isn't world ending, vulnerable need to shelter and be protected, and we will move on as a society with some form of herd immunity or therapeutic. The narrative was really obvious when they started attacking any suggested treatment by the Trump admin.
I figured out how to order groceries online, started talking to my boss about work from home just in case it became risky in my area. Thinking that we would open back up, and then I as a at risk individual would be responsible for figuring my own shit out, with maybe some help from the government with grocery delivery or something if needed.
Then they kept shutting shit down and pushing " we cannot be normal till a vaccine" and "wear a mask or you're killing people!!". Shaming people for trying to be human, and using people like me as pawns for a narrative.
I have gotten a flu shot for the past 8+ years (required in military). I have not and will not this year due to the increased risk of catching Shanghai Shivers. I have never understood how/why a mask is supposed to stop a virus and when I tried to wear one around the house, my medical issue made me feel like I was jogging everywhere I went.
and even with myself being in a high risk group, I don't see how any of these government mandates are actually protecting me or others like me more than they are hurting a majority of the population. I'm staying away from crowds (never liked them much anyway) but I REFUSE to live in fear anymore. I did that, it was miserable and I cannot go back.
I will not be getting this vaccine, because even if there was no weird Great Reset agenda, this was a rushed vaccine that will likely have little to no effectiveness (like the flu shot). If you want it, you take it.
I will not be wearing a mask and within the last month or so I have begun verbally shaming any friends/family that do wear them. I get kicked out of the store, and am proud of it. I am trying to have the biggest Thanksgiving dinner possible, and an even bigger Christmas. I'm going to Take my vitamin D, take my Zinc and continue washing my hands, not hide in my basement.
Not a religious man, but I do pray on occasion. I figure if it's my time, then it's my time. Living in fear and stress hurts your immune system more than anything. I really wish the left would stop using people like me as political chess pieces to hurt a president they hate so much.
TLDR: fuck the mask, fuck the vaccine, fuck the CCPVirus, Trump 2020
I'm glad you shared this. This has been a ditto mark of my own timeline of viewpoint on the virus.
I started off taking the leaked info from China seriously around Christmas time. I slowly started stocking up on food as soon as I saw the Chinese lockdowns start. I realized it was all garbage after the two week lockdown was announced, but my college announced they'd be locked down for the remainder of the semester initially (2 months at that point). The mismatch between those two timelines really got my attention. We later found out that both timelines were lies (I'm in Michigan, so I'm STILL not back to class).
The thing that I'm angry about is what you pointed out actually and nobody seems to have noticed in non-TD circles. People and the government are using people like you to hide behind. Their own fear and mandates are supposedly all about the vulnerable, but they have done nothing to actually help you. They only do things to soothe themselves.
If these people actually wanted to help, then they'd come up with support methods that actually support you and those like you. For the immune compromised, they're at risk from basically everything and were at risk before the China Virus entered the stage. The answer is to make an accommodation system for them like we have for deaf people or ramps for wheelchairs. We've had the technology and the ability to make these systems for a lot of people, but none of these "leaders in the community" or Democrats who claim to fight for the disabled (or whatever PC term they use now) have done so.
Nothing has changed for the better for the people who are supposedly protected with these mandates.
"If these people actually wanted to help, then they'd come up with support methods that actually support you and those like you." Based. There were a couple countries that set up grocery delivery and stuff. Targeted relief.
This is my biggest problem with the whole thing being used as a pawn. I was FURIOUS at the ACB hearing with the dems bring the pictures out of people losing their healthcare. They are using at risk people the same way they use black and hispanic people. I'm a white dude, so I've never been a political chess piece until China virus and I fucking hate it.
I know it isn't true and I don't feel "guilty" about it, but part of me does feel bad that the effort to "protect" people like me is being used to damage my friends, neighbors and loved ones financially and via mental health. It's just gross.
Also, as a Pede in Oregon, I feel the living under a tyrant...we are back to full lock down tomorrow. And I feel like I have to remind you, please please please call/email your state reps, senators, county leadership, everyone. get your friends to do it, it is more important than voting was. You guys are potentially going to either save or doom our country. We got this.
I recovered from COVID. It was like a mid-level cold. No lung symptoms. Worst part was being stuck inside away from my family when I felt fine.
When I am no longer immune, I will skip this unless my health status changes. I would like to see this out for a few years. If I was 95 or had a serious issue that outweighed the risk of the disease I would consider it. My husband's aunt has severe COPD, I think she should get it.
My 70 year old mom, and 75 year old stepdad also had it. They are both pretty unhealthy, and it still didn’t effect them much. They only found out they had it, because my stepdad went to the hospital for his diabetes. When they found out he had Covid symptoms, they suggested he and my mom both get tested. Turns out they both had it, and it just felt like a regular flu, and went away in 2 weeks.
Glad they are okay.
Thank you 🙏🏼. They didn’t catch it until the tail end of their symptoms, so they didn’t have it too bad.
i wont be getting it, too much human fetus in it...
Exactly. I know well enough not to get injected with the remains of human sacrifice. We’ve been depending on our own immune system, since the beginning of time. I’ve never had a flu shot (nor my family) and we won’t be getting this injection.
99.97 survival rate, versus risking taking an injection from a government that hates its people.... not a hard choice!
First off, no. Getting a vaccine for this thing is ridiculous.
Next, between at least 1 vaccine using aborted fetus as a part of it:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-16-video-shows-proof-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-aborted-human-fetal-tissue.html
And the both "hacking" the RNA:
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-breakthrough-moderna-covid-vaccine-highly.html
Why would anyone informed go anywhere near them?
Zero fucking chance
My immune system will do just fine, fuck your vaccine. Heard them shits fuck with your RNA so no thank you.
As based-Polish meme says: let the Politicians get it first, if it works, some of us will feel safer, if it harmful to politicians and doesn't work, all of us will feel safer.
But, like someone said : they’ll just get the placebo, and give everyone else the poison.
Yeah 100%
But I'm not taking an unknown cocktail, to fight a virus (lo) that we know nothing about, where the vaccines only have a percentage chance to work over a percentage chance to take.
Imagine taking seasonal flu vaccines, for a virus that changes hundreds of times a year -- when they have such a low immunization rate in the first place, for a Virus that's already mutated.
So, when they roll out the first version: yes, you’re taking it? Or no, you’re going to wait for a different version, in the future?
If it's a seasonal virus, I wont be taking a vaccination for it, there's quite literally no point.
They should keep getting it every morning just to be extra sure they stay healthy. We can't let our elites be catching corona, now.
HELL NO
Hecc no.
Yes
No
Yes
Fuck everything about these vaccines:
...Sounds like a recipe for future auto-immune disorders.
They get the placebo and then publicly state, "Look, we got it. No big deal."
The rest of us get the poison
That’s exactly what I thought! They lie all the time, they’ll just say they got it.
I don't take any vaccines, so this is no different
No f*#$ing way
Bye society, it was fun.... i guess
On that note; is Trump still buying Greenland?
I won't, because I had it and didn't know I did at the time because it's weak shit that only harms those with preexisting conditions.
Me
I might get it in 10 years when I start getting into the "at risk" category, and after it's long term effects have been studied.
Going to play devil's advocate here. I won't reject the vaccine on principle. I will wait and make an informed decision based on reason and logic.
I will be looking at several factors. How safe is it, 2 months after general public availability? How hard is it being pushed or forced on people? Are the side effects worse than the virus? Will I be excluded from employment? Do I have to show vaccine papers to travel? How hard will it be to forge papers to get past the checkpoints?
>Who
Anyone with a functioning brain.