Exactly this. Wife had symptoms, very mild ones, popped positive. I popped positive with absolutely NO symptoms. Required to get tested as I'm a first responder.
I've known only 3 or so people to "die of COVID." All three of them? Already a foot in the grave, and probably would have died the exact same way even had they not had COVID.
I'm sick of this bullshit. Meanwhile, suicide rates? Drug use rates? Poverty rates? Also on the rise.
Reminds me of the test they did in Brazil earlier this year. Someone sent in samples from a bird, a fruit and some inanimate object . . . . ALL came back positive!
Shouldn’t even be with Covid, but with coronavirus. Everyone admitted to a hospital gets multiple coronavirus tests, and if they come back positive, the death certificate will list Covid if they die, but we don’t seem to be tracking if they actually exhibited any Severe Acute Respiratory Symptoms.
EDIT: several other neighbors went to the hospital. one. way. trip.
I'm wondering if it's because their first idea on the course of treatment for people with lower O2 sat is to stick them on a ventilator.
Seems to me that ventilatry support is a death sentence. In the UK, they were experimenting with putting people on nasal CPAP machines, and many of them fared better. Was it because they were less sick or because of the ventilators? I don't know, but I can certainly guess.
they were hacking CPAP machines here in NYC and exploding people's lungs, it happened here first brother and I am shocked that they are still trying that over there.
one man in our community was taken out for burial and a note was found in his pocket "we didn't die from COVID, they didn't give us food or water - too afraid to enter our wards"
there is also a perverse incentive at the hospitals here as COVID deaths and COVID patients carry a cash bounty.
I half wonder if this is what Trump is going to pull out of his hat. Forget the election, if Covid is revealed definitively as a plot, it's all over, especially with Dem governors murdering people in care homes. His support for the vaccine makes me skeptical though.
they were hacking CPAP machines here in NYC and exploding people's lungs
I think you mean ventilators. CPAP isn't likely to do that since it'd just blow out of their mouth.
I remember some of these claims though. The idea being that patients' O2 was so low and the ventilator apparently doing nothing that they kept increasing the pressure to try to force more oxygen in. Which, considering that COVID apparently causes thrombi to form in the lungs in some people, you can't get more air in if there's no blood flow.
That said, like you, I'm suspicious that when this is all said and done we're going to find that 99% of this wasn't just a power grab, it was a money grab.
I have also heard about the lack of food and water but it was in nc. I was a bit skeptical. It was also near the beginning of the lock down when we didn't really know what we were dealing with
It seems to me there has been a quiet admission by the medical community that ventilating people was a bad idea. I can't remember where I saw it but the survival rates for people ventilated was appallingly low.
That's why they had to give the name COVID-19 to this Coronavirus strain.
Each year, Coronaviruses are responsible for 37-45% of all colds (it may be even higher, because they only ever tested people who needed a Doctor/hospital). Politically speaking, ain't nobody gonna get their panties in a wad for the Common Cold.
COVID does have a sligtly higher incidence of lower lung involvement than other Coronavirus strains (which tend to sit in the upper lungs). That is the main difference (from a body perspective) between 19 and the other strains.
BUT, you could never create a 'Deadly Pandemic' scare by only using the proper term 'Coronavirus' because too many people know it's the technical name for the Common Cold.
Why nobody asks about the other 18 Coronavirus strains is beyond me.
There are strains above 19 also. Or at least a 20 according to the disinfectant wipes we use at work. And it was on the label before the Shanghai Sniffles came about.
In May, I went on the Canadian Gov purchasing site (less entries than US). It showed that they had purchased Covid 19 test kits in 2017 (arrived 2018).
I went back 2 weeks ago to print it off to make a meme about 'Plandemic BS' - and it no longer says Covid 19 Test Kits.
There is now just a reference number 300215 (which I only knew to look for b/c of a Doctor in Europe saying those Gov't's ALSO changed the Test Kits Purchase Titles in THEIR Gov't archives).
Why nobody asks about the other 18 Coronavirus strains is beyond me.
The '-19' is a designation for 2019 the year it was first observed. There are a lot more strains than that. They think they have found two variants of this wuflu, one seemed to be more prevalent in the West Coast USA the other East Coast USA, possibly Boston, with BioGen Employees.
Viruses evolve. When they become less contagious or less harmful they just 'go away' and no one knows why. Seriously. They don't know why.
People losing their small businesses. Actually had a (former) friend say, "so what man, that's the way America is." Disgusting thought IMO. This country is built on the small business owner. And they're dying out.
I like the term “former friend.” That’s exactly the way one of my friendships is trending.
We were talking about the destruction of the economy and businesses and he said “If you can’t learn to adapt to a changing situation, you deserve to fail. Isn’t that what Capitalism is all about?”
He said this being a self described “socialist.” He thought he got me.
Then I said, “The Government forcing people into their homes isn’t a ‘changing’ situation. It’s wholesale destruction. Expecting restaurants to ‘adapt or die’ is childish. They’re built on people entering a building to eat food. You’ve now closed the buildings. Should they create drive-by restaurants, where they shoot the entrees at your face and hope for the best? The economy didn’t change organically. The government screwed with it. The blame is on them, not the business owners.”
I then told him “It’s very brave of you to expect others to ‘adapt or die’ when you didn’t miss a single paycheck from your government job during the pandemic. As far as I’m concerned, you’ve had an eight month paid vacation.”
I see it al the time online, these goverment employees, wealthy retired people, white collar work form home types DEMANDING a shutdown for 4-6 week or more. Meanwhile, small business, retail and even people looking for work are screwed as no one is hiring and if they are they have a huge pool to choose from making it very had for people trying to get on their feet again.
its worse with the wives on reddit. the worst is a sub called breakingmom. they bitch constantly how they are "doing all the things" and "no one is taking it seriously" "my inlaws watch fox news, orange cheeto this and that" want to be maytrs for home schooling their kids "keeping them safe" but then whine how "hard it is amirite?" all white, college educated, progressives. they are miserable and want you to be misreable and are completely ok with lockdowns and hoarding toilet paper, and shaming moms who have to work and put kids back in school.
government employed in the family, the work from home has been great for them
but we oppose all this covid bullshit because it's destroyed so many things and other people's lives. what the fuck is the point of doing well if society is being destroyed? and on top of that its all based on overhyped nonsense
God, I have this coworker who was hella pissed at people operating their salons “illegally”.
I’m like, “Well, what do you expect them to do? They have to make a living right? They’re not like you and me, we’re lucky because we’re ‘essential employees’. We never missed a paycheck through this whole thing.”
“Oh, well, I never thought of it that way.”
Of course not. That’s because she never thinks, she just watch MSM and regurgitate everything she hears.
I hate these morons. I have no skin in the immediate financial game for this, I'm military and the wife was still working during this, but it still pisses me off because it is obviously horrible for the country (Canada). My wife is a 50/50 covidiot ie. thinks its just masks who cares wear it, cites cases and stuff, didn't think business shutdowns were a huge deal. However when I bring up counter points (I almost never suffer foolishness and will happily tell people why I think their ideas are wrong, I like debating) she usually is forced to admit that none of it makes any sense, and they are at best horribly overreacting.
One example I gave her was about our dogs. No kids, not gonna have kids but a few dogs and cats, and animals are her life. We were arguing about the covid bullshit, shutdowns of businesses came up. The general points were that I said its absolutely terrible, she thought it was not as big a deal. All i had to say was "it's easy for you to not really care or see how big a deal this is, but I bet you would change your tune if neither of us were getting paid and my choice was whats got to go, us eating or the animals eating. And a ton of people are going to be dealing with a lot harder choices then that due to this." Instantly a flash of understanding in her eyes.
It's really easy to see something as not a big deal, when it doesn't effect you.
More should be made of the fact that pets are a repository for the 'virus'. They had to cull 3 million minks in Denmark because they were carrying COVID. Cats have shown to be able to carry it too. I would love to see the about-turn from all these super-privileged WFH women when the prospect of culling their fur-kids is on the agenda.
I had a similar conversation with a friend a few months back. She was totally for the shutdown where people were not allowed to operate their businesses. She chose to shut down her own business because it’s for the greater good and it was necessary. She thought of herself as being selfless, but it was not like she was even really sacrificing anything because she had been trying to get get out of her business for a year already, this was just her excuse.
She freaking still lives with her boyfriend in his parents home, and they have no kids, so no extra mouths to feed. She don’t have to worry about bills and mortgage like the rest of the “selfish” business owners who wanted to work.
I’m hating all these pompous people using this covid thing as virtual signaling when there are real people struggling. It definitely to opens your eyes up when some of these people turns out to be to your “friends”.
That's really the worst part of all of this IMO. Entrepreneurship isn't easy. You have to bust your ass to be successful. And they're getting punished for no reason. These are the people that create jobs, make money, spend money, deliver a service. Just taken on a whim by a politician because they're either 1) a liberal nutjob or 2) worried about the left attacking them and blaming every death on them.
The coronavirus shit is morbidly humorous but it's also fucking disgusting. It pisses me off. I'm still waiting on a fine for not wearing a mask. They'll never get me out of the courtroom.
Entrepreneurship isn't easy. You have to bust your ass to be successful.
And even when you do, you have a better than average shot at still not being successful.
Entrepreneurship is a contest to see how much shit you can eat every day without vomiting. He who keeps it down the longest and asks for more each day MIGHT have a CHANCE at POSSIBLY having success. Gotta work for it every single day and night. Nothing's guaranteed except a higher mountain of work than you thought you could climb, though you can, and many unexpected obstacles, though they can be overcome.
Covfefe's Law: When you say you want to achieve something, all the universe conspires against you to prevent you from having it—to find out if you really want it, and to multiply and magnify your satisfaction upon its attainment.
Hats off to all the entrepreneurs out there making it happen every day in the USA! o7
I don't even know why anyone would want to start a business, at least one that requires leasing a building, after the covid hysteria. On top of all the risks you already take, now you can just be shut down by the gov't at any time because of a health scare?
Thanks, but no fucking thanks.
Sweden feels like a freer country than many parts of the US right now. Sad.
I spent last fall working on a client management system that could do billing, notes, book appointments online, handle gift cards, etc. for a friend's massage businesses. We had 20 other massage therapy studios signed up with plans to launch the service to others back in June...that didn't happened.
We gotta follow the dictates of the World Health Organization to the letter!!!!!
Faux News:
The head of the World Health Organization [Tedros Adhanom Ghegreyesus], in charge of making life or death decisions on a grand scale, has been accused of covering up cholera epidemics, supporting a terrorist organization and inflating his resume to claim he conquered malaria and HIV.
WHO:
Lockdowns: The WHO warned that lockdowns have caused a “terrible global catastrophe”. According to the UN, lockdowns may put the livelihood of 1.6 billion people at acute risk and may push an additional 150 million children into poverty. Unemployment, bankruptcies and psychological problems have reached record levels worldwide.
Exactly this. Wife had symptoms, very mild ones, popped positive. I popped positive with absolutely NO symptoms. Required to get tested as I'm a first responder.
I've known only 3 or so people to "die of COVID." All three of them? Already a foot in the grave, and probably would have died the exact same way even had they not had COVID.
I'm sick of this bullshit. Meanwhile, suicide rates? Drug use rates? Poverty rates? Also on the rise.
Then it's *with Covid, not "of" Covid.
The flu will test positive for covid-19.
Flu deaths are way down this year
Flu deaths are zero because there are zero flu cases. This Is from The Who. Also the cdc isn’t counting flu cases this year
Reminds me of the test they did in Brazil earlier this year. Someone sent in samples from a bird, a fruit and some inanimate object . . . . ALL came back positive!
288 deaths in British Columbia the whole time during covid. 179 deaths LAST MONTH from drug overdoses. Sum Ting Wong
Shouldn’t even be with Covid, but with coronavirus. Everyone admitted to a hospital gets multiple coronavirus tests, and if they come back positive, the death certificate will list Covid if they die, but we don’t seem to be tracking if they actually exhibited any Severe Acute Respiratory Symptoms.
This had been a red flag to me. How come they dropped the SARS nomenclature???
Hmm good point
I have a neighbor who took her 90 year old father out of HOSPICE during the pandemic. He caught COVID, got O2 and steroids at home, and recovered.
COVID IS NOT EBOLA!!!
EDIT: several other neighbors went to the hospital. one. way. trip.
I'm wondering if it's because their first idea on the course of treatment for people with lower O2 sat is to stick them on a ventilator.
Seems to me that ventilatry support is a death sentence. In the UK, they were experimenting with putting people on nasal CPAP machines, and many of them fared better. Was it because they were less sick or because of the ventilators? I don't know, but I can certainly guess.
they were hacking CPAP machines here in NYC and exploding people's lungs, it happened here first brother and I am shocked that they are still trying that over there.
one man in our community was taken out for burial and a note was found in his pocket "we didn't die from COVID, they didn't give us food or water - too afraid to enter our wards"
there is also a perverse incentive at the hospitals here as COVID deaths and COVID patients carry a cash bounty.
I half wonder if this is what Trump is going to pull out of his hat. Forget the election, if Covid is revealed definitively as a plot, it's all over, especially with Dem governors murdering people in care homes. His support for the vaccine makes me skeptical though.
I think you mean ventilators. CPAP isn't likely to do that since it'd just blow out of their mouth.
I remember some of these claims though. The idea being that patients' O2 was so low and the ventilator apparently doing nothing that they kept increasing the pressure to try to force more oxygen in. Which, considering that COVID apparently causes thrombi to form in the lungs in some people, you can't get more air in if there's no blood flow.
That said, like you, I'm suspicious that when this is all said and done we're going to find that 99% of this wasn't just a power grab, it was a money grab.
I have also heard about the lack of food and water but it was in nc. I was a bit skeptical. It was also near the beginning of the lock down when we didn't really know what we were dealing with
It seems to me there has been a quiet admission by the medical community that ventilating people was a bad idea. I can't remember where I saw it but the survival rates for people ventilated was appallingly low.
I know both Dr. John Campbell and Dr. Seheult had covered it, so I'd imagine it's been in the literature all over.
One has to consider that if the treatment protocol leads to an outcome worse than chance, perhaps there's something wrong with the protocol?
That's why they had to give the name COVID-19 to this Coronavirus strain.
Each year, Coronaviruses are responsible for 37-45% of all colds (it may be even higher, because they only ever tested people who needed a Doctor/hospital). Politically speaking, ain't nobody gonna get their panties in a wad for the Common Cold.
COVID does have a sligtly higher incidence of lower lung involvement than other Coronavirus strains (which tend to sit in the upper lungs). That is the main difference (from a body perspective) between 19 and the other strains.
BUT, you could never create a 'Deadly Pandemic' scare by only using the proper term 'Coronavirus' because too many people know it's the technical name for the Common Cold.
Why nobody asks about the other 18 Coronavirus strains is beyond me.
There are strains above 19 also. Or at least a 20 according to the disinfectant wipes we use at work. And it was on the label before the Shanghai Sniffles came about.
I find it weird that medical supplies marked for dealing with "COVID 19" were being produced in 2015.
But that's none of my business
In May, I went on the Canadian Gov purchasing site (less entries than US). It showed that they had purchased Covid 19 test kits in 2017 (arrived 2018).
I went back 2 weeks ago to print it off to make a meme about 'Plandemic BS' - and it no longer says Covid 19 Test Kits.
There is now just a reference number 300215 (which I only knew to look for b/c of a Doctor in Europe saying those Gov't's ALSO changed the Test Kits Purchase Titles in THEIR Gov't archives).
sauce?
The '-19' is a designation for 2019 the year it was first observed. There are a lot more strains than that. They think they have found two variants of this wuflu, one seemed to be more prevalent in the West Coast USA the other East Coast USA, possibly Boston, with BioGen Employees.
Viruses evolve. When they become less contagious or less harmful they just 'go away' and no one knows why. Seriously. They don't know why.
The -19 is for the year of discovery (2019) not the number of F coronaviruses
I don't know about his sexuality. But he is a troll and in need of deportation in the name of Kek.
People losing their small businesses. Actually had a (former) friend say, "so what man, that's the way America is." Disgusting thought IMO. This country is built on the small business owner. And they're dying out.
I like the term “former friend.” That’s exactly the way one of my friendships is trending.
We were talking about the destruction of the economy and businesses and he said “If you can’t learn to adapt to a changing situation, you deserve to fail. Isn’t that what Capitalism is all about?” He said this being a self described “socialist.” He thought he got me.
Then I said, “The Government forcing people into their homes isn’t a ‘changing’ situation. It’s wholesale destruction. Expecting restaurants to ‘adapt or die’ is childish. They’re built on people entering a building to eat food. You’ve now closed the buildings. Should they create drive-by restaurants, where they shoot the entrees at your face and hope for the best? The economy didn’t change organically. The government screwed with it. The blame is on them, not the business owners.”
I then told him “It’s very brave of you to expect others to ‘adapt or die’ when you didn’t miss a single paycheck from your government job during the pandemic. As far as I’m concerned, you’ve had an eight month paid vacation.”
Former friend is looking more likely each day.
I see it al the time online, these goverment employees, wealthy retired people, white collar work form home types DEMANDING a shutdown for 4-6 week or more. Meanwhile, small business, retail and even people looking for work are screwed as no one is hiring and if they are they have a huge pool to choose from making it very had for people trying to get on their feet again.
its worse with the wives on reddit. the worst is a sub called breakingmom. they bitch constantly how they are "doing all the things" and "no one is taking it seriously" "my inlaws watch fox news, orange cheeto this and that" want to be maytrs for home schooling their kids "keeping them safe" but then whine how "hard it is amirite?" all white, college educated, progressives. they are miserable and want you to be misreable and are completely ok with lockdowns and hoarding toilet paper, and shaming moms who have to work and put kids back in school.
"just wear a fucking mask!"
government employed in the family, the work from home has been great for them
but we oppose all this covid bullshit because it's destroyed so many things and other people's lives. what the fuck is the point of doing well if society is being destroyed? and on top of that its all based on overhyped nonsense
God, I have this coworker who was hella pissed at people operating their salons “illegally”.
I’m like, “Well, what do you expect them to do? They have to make a living right? They’re not like you and me, we’re lucky because we’re ‘essential employees’. We never missed a paycheck through this whole thing.”
“Oh, well, I never thought of it that way.”
Of course not. That’s because she never thinks, she just watch MSM and regurgitate everything she hears.
I'm now "former friends" with several people thanks to this plandemic and better off for it.
I hate these morons. I have no skin in the immediate financial game for this, I'm military and the wife was still working during this, but it still pisses me off because it is obviously horrible for the country (Canada). My wife is a 50/50 covidiot ie. thinks its just masks who cares wear it, cites cases and stuff, didn't think business shutdowns were a huge deal. However when I bring up counter points (I almost never suffer foolishness and will happily tell people why I think their ideas are wrong, I like debating) she usually is forced to admit that none of it makes any sense, and they are at best horribly overreacting.
One example I gave her was about our dogs. No kids, not gonna have kids but a few dogs and cats, and animals are her life. We were arguing about the covid bullshit, shutdowns of businesses came up. The general points were that I said its absolutely terrible, she thought it was not as big a deal. All i had to say was "it's easy for you to not really care or see how big a deal this is, but I bet you would change your tune if neither of us were getting paid and my choice was whats got to go, us eating or the animals eating. And a ton of people are going to be dealing with a lot harder choices then that due to this." Instantly a flash of understanding in her eyes.
It's really easy to see something as not a big deal, when it doesn't effect you.
More should be made of the fact that pets are a repository for the 'virus'. They had to cull 3 million minks in Denmark because they were carrying COVID. Cats have shown to be able to carry it too. I would love to see the about-turn from all these super-privileged WFH women when the prospect of culling their fur-kids is on the agenda.
Spot on. What’s worst is villifying people for not wanting to comply with arbitrary rules that doesn’t affect you.
I had a similar conversation with a friend a few months back. She was totally for the shutdown where people were not allowed to operate their businesses. She chose to shut down her own business because it’s for the greater good and it was necessary. She thought of herself as being selfless, but it was not like she was even really sacrificing anything because she had been trying to get get out of her business for a year already, this was just her excuse.
She freaking still lives with her boyfriend in his parents home, and they have no kids, so no extra mouths to feed. She don’t have to worry about bills and mortgage like the rest of the “selfish” business owners who wanted to work.
I’m hating all these pompous people using this covid thing as virtual signaling when there are real people struggling. It definitely to opens your eyes up when some of these people turns out to be to your “friends”.
A friend just closed her massage business for good
That's really the worst part of all of this IMO. Entrepreneurship isn't easy. You have to bust your ass to be successful. And they're getting punished for no reason. These are the people that create jobs, make money, spend money, deliver a service. Just taken on a whim by a politician because they're either 1) a liberal nutjob or 2) worried about the left attacking them and blaming every death on them.
The coronavirus shit is morbidly humorous but it's also fucking disgusting. It pisses me off. I'm still waiting on a fine for not wearing a mask. They'll never get me out of the courtroom.
Threaten to call the cops on the Karen's /mask Nazi's for practicing medicine without a license
And even when you do, you have a better than average shot at still not being successful.
Entrepreneurship is a contest to see how much shit you can eat every day without vomiting. He who keeps it down the longest and asks for more each day MIGHT have a CHANCE at POSSIBLY having success. Gotta work for it every single day and night. Nothing's guaranteed except a higher mountain of work than you thought you could climb, though you can, and many unexpected obstacles, though they can be overcome.
Covfefe's Law: When you say you want to achieve something, all the universe conspires against you to prevent you from having it—to find out if you really want it, and to multiply and magnify your satisfaction upon its attainment.
Hats off to all the entrepreneurs out there making it happen every day in the USA! o7
You forgot policy makers who are invested in billion dollar multinationals that are considered essential business by government diktat.
I don't even know why anyone would want to start a business, at least one that requires leasing a building, after the covid hysteria. On top of all the risks you already take, now you can just be shut down by the gov't at any time because of a health scare?
Thanks, but no fucking thanks.
Sweden feels like a freer country than many parts of the US right now. Sad.
"massage" business, you say...?
I spent last fall working on a client management system that could do billing, notes, book appointments online, handle gift cards, etc. for a friend's massage businesses. We had 20 other massage therapy studios signed up with plans to launch the service to others back in June...that didn't happened.
Statists:
We gotta follow the dictates of the World Health Organization to the letter!!!!!
Faux News:
The head of the World Health Organization [Tedros Adhanom Ghegreyesus], in charge of making life or death decisions on a grand scale, has been accused of covering up cholera epidemics, supporting a terrorist organization and inflating his resume to claim he conquered malaria and HIV.
WHO:
Newsom, Witless Witmer, et al.:
Gotta have another lockdown!
Interesting! Appreciate the link
Good read, thanks for the link.