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thebesig 140 points ago +141 / -1

I've read the Bible from the beginning of Genesis to the end of Revelations more than once. The Bible is a contradiction to the leftist philosophies and is actually one of the biggest arguments for conservatism.

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thuggishruggishtrump 91 points ago +92 / -1

I’m not religious at all but it’s obvious this country was much better off when we followed Christian values.

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thebesig 48 points ago +50 / -2

This is supported by Biblical readings. The order to be fruitful, to multiply, and to subdue the earth was an order to be productive, to produce abundance from scarcity, and to do these to continue God's creation. This phrase orders us to engage in capitalism and, by extension, to build civilization, to maintain it, and to be prosperous.

This describes the purpose behind why God gave us life, liberty, and property (pursuit of happiness).

We're givin a blueprint to do just that... Through God's commandments.This is how we maintain a civilization, to maintain our prosperity, and to maintain our freedom.

God gave us a warning. We follow his commandments, we enjoy his blessing. We fail to follow his commandments, we end up cursed. We see this with countries that reject the principles that our founders embraced.

In fact, our founders designed a system that made sure that we followed God's intent/blueprint.

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overtotheright 26 points ago +30 / -4

Note also that their ideological beliefs directly contravene all of the above: homosexuality, materialism, divorce, feminism, disrespecting your parents and accusing them of having ‘outdated beliefs’, focusing on egotistical urges like ‘mental health’ and ‘happiness’ instead of productivity and fruitfulness, submission to your vices, allowing moneylenders to profit off of you and your people; and so many more!

Celebrity culture is effectively idolatry too.

And that’s not even mentioning their atheism.

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Aoikaze2000 14 points ago +18 / -4

Just to clarify a point, mental health isn't necessarily an egotistical belief when we're talking about trying to keep a schizophrenic rational, or evening out the mood swings of a bipolar, or helping someone suffering from depression through the lows when the world turns grey.

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Aquamine-Amarine 3 points ago +3 / -0

Mental illnesses ARE real. You are a horrible ignorant science denier if you think they aren't.

I do believe most leftists lie about their mental illnesses to play the victim, but people like me are NOT lying. We do suffer from depression, anxiety, etc. And it's not fucking fun. I never used to want to wish this suffering on anyone, but lately I do. People like you will never understand what we have to go through until you experience it yourself. It's the only way for you to change your ignorant views.

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thebesig 3 points ago +4 / -1

"egotistical"... this is an idol. Doing what excessive pride drives one to do is "worshiping" the lord of pride. People that do this usually violate one or a combination of God's commandments. When they displace God, they are placing themselves in the place of God... Effectively munching on the fruit of forbidden knowledge (pride based definition of right and wrong).

The communist regimes claim that they worship no god, but that's false. They worship an idol of their own making.

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tufftoffee 5 points ago +5 / -0

Congress passed the Northwest Ordinance in 1787 offering land grants for public schools, saying "Religion, morality, and knowledge being necessary for good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means for education shall ever be encouraged."

It's almost like Religion is important to our founding or something.

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thebesig 4 points ago +4 / -0

It definitely is. :D Our Founding Fathers were familiar with what was in the Bible, and understood the connection between God's commandments and "being blessed"... Having a free and prosperous society.

God's first commandment, the part about having no strange gods before him, was an acknowledgement that there were idols/gods that had different rules... That if we were to remain free, we will do what God wants us to do at the expense of what one or a combination of these idols/gods would have us do.

God's commandments are basically our "instruction manual" on how we could remain free and prosperous (blessed).

One connecting statement between the Bible, and the Constitution, is a statement made in the Declaration of Independence... About life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness being rights given to us by God. These three could be traced to verses in the Bible.

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Angerisagift 17 points ago +18 / -1

This was Benjamin Franklin’s firm conviction and he personally supported many churches of different denominations. He saw churches as crucial institutions. And for all of the Founders who weren’t Christian you still find a respect for Christianity. Even noted skeptic deist Jefferson realizes the moral teachings of Christ endured as sublime truth. “Jefferson’s Bible” was simply stripped of anything supernatural and miraculous.

Once a large portion of the population has almost no conscience it’s really game over.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Jefferson said he was a Christian. This large portion of the population with no conscience are the ones that have abandoned humanity, are domestic enemies of the Nation, and

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Ogcarvattack 4 points ago +6 / -2

Wa-kan-da

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TheRedRight 3 points ago +3 / -0

How’d they do in the Vote Count?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's easy. Take the mandatory vaccine without question, and sign onto the great reset which forfeits all right to own property for the rest of your life. If we don't like them apples we need to be heroes before Biden gets inaugurated.

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RealCarlosDanger 10 points ago +11 / -1

All it takes is knowing humans are humans, meaning flawed. The rest is just common sense. We would be far better off following these values, but there’s many religious and non religious paths to that answer!

In short, don’t be a dick and don’t think you’re perfect... that would solve a lot.

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tholins 3 points ago +3 / -0

You might not personally be religious, but unless you’re ethnically Asian, everything good in your civilization was created, sustained, nurtured, and passed on by Christians and Christianity.

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Brooklyn_Patriot_76 68 points ago +69 / -1

! This claim is disputed

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Friend_of_John_Galt 23 points ago +25 / -2

I exhaled a bit through my nose on that one

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Brooklyn_Patriot_76 9 points ago +9 / -0

based user name brother!

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Friend_of_John_Galt 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thanks!

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Aoikaze2000 13 points ago +13 / -0

If ThE fAcT cHeCkEr SaYs It, It MuSt Be TrUe....

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BilbroNaggins 4 points ago +4 / -0

Time to wear my PermaMask on my own car while driving alone until i got in my house where I also wear it even I live alone too.

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BladderBeerPoopin 4 points ago +4 / -0

I thought those were to stop people's urges to lick windows.

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SpaceForceMilitia 7 points ago +8 / -1

Kek!

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muslimporn 18 points ago +19 / -1

I'm not a religious type but the impression I get from the story of Jesus isn't someone against the system but against bad actors that abuse the system.

Any system. The system of justice, the system of finance.

Communists want to replace the system with even more system.

They have a religious belief that if they do that somehow everyone becomes magically benevolent like Jesus.

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thebesig 18 points ago +19 / -1

Jesus encouraged productivity. You're correct in that he wasn't against the system itself, just the bad actors who were pursuing objectives inconsistent with God's commandments.

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kag-2020- 8 points ago +9 / -1

He told a story of three men, two who worked to produce and one who called their master a fascist. He gave the first two everything he gave them originally, two fold, and took everything from the latter.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting rendition of the parable!

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Aoikaze2000 8 points ago +8 / -0

That's a pretty good take of it. Jesus didn't want to destroy the priesthood, but called out the Sadducees and Pharisees because they were extraordinarily hypocritical, and were also virtue signaling without really having the actions to back up what they proclaimed.

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tholins 8 points ago +8 / -0

Jesus wasn’t a political leader.

TheJews wanted that. They believed the messiah was going to be another King David, a strong military leader to steer Israel as a political entity. But the salvation offered by the Son of God was never intended to be an earthly end unto itself, nor was it limited to just the Jewish people, as they had believed it would be.

This is likely why you see the emphasis in the Gospels differentiating secular/political/earthly and transcendent concerns. Jesus wasn’t here for the narrow concerns of the contemporary Jewish state.

Once the elites of Israel (the Pharisees) figured this out, they had to get rid of him. Jesus was constantly having to fend off the Jewish leadership trying to trap him. They’re always either trying to get him to come out against the Law or take some kind of anti-Rome political stance; I mean, the excuse they use to hand him over for execution is that he’s fermenting some kind of rebellion against Rome.

The problem Marxism has is that it got very tangled up with a couple of Victorian ideas about how humanity is cognitively/emotionally evolving along with technology. IE, as our technology and knowledge base improves, human nature itself is literally changing as well into some kind of ideal state.

This, of course, is at odds both with secular biological reality and the concept of Original Sin from Christianity. Mankind is fallen, and the only perfection we will achieve - the only transcendence available to us - is found through Jesus Christ and his merciful sacrifice for the good of our species. Marxism, by comparison, thinks that mankind can be made perfect absent that divine mercy. In a way, man becomes his own god.

You don’t have believe in Christianity to see how much evil can and has been done in pursuit of that latter concept.

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timetocrush 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yup and man becoming his own god is the same exact lie satan told Eve in the garden. It's the oldest lie in history.

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bubadmt 6 points ago +6 / -0

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D0NNIE_DARK0 2 points ago +2 / -0

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Ben45 3 points ago +4 / -1

Just from my general understanding and some reading of the Bible, that makes sense. Care to explain a little more how so? Don't need to go into specifics and give a lecture, just general points in the Bible that directly contradict leftism

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thebesig 17 points ago +18 / -1

One common argument that the left gives, for wanting to increase taxes and to "force the rich to pay their fair share", is that Jesus wanted us to give. Or, the Bible wants us to give.

However, the Bible repeatedly emphasized that this should be "from the heart". If we help, or give, it has to come from our own resources, and not through a third party. This is a conservative argument today.

There is one scene where a man wanted Jesus to order his brother to split his inheritance. Jesus asked the man who made Jesus judge and divider. When the left talks about "privilege", they're demonizing inheritance. Jesus refused to force the other guy to engage in forced distribution.

I responded to the others on this thread, I recommend you also read my other responses to get other examples. :D

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kag2044 2 points ago +2 / -0

Full context is even better, no forcing, just demonizing those who won't willingly give their share in ways to The LORD:

14Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you?” 15Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.” 16And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’ 18“Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.” ’ 20“But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’ 21“This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.”

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thebesig 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes... There are multiple meanings in each verse and passage, all tying to the overall golden theme that keeps running through the Bible.

The full context that you shows illustrates the fact that our physical bodies, and our physical surroundings, are illusions to our real selves... Our spirits. When God told Adam that he came from dust, and that he would return to dust, he was telling this to Adam. In both instances, what matters most is what we do for each other under God's version of what is right and wrong.

People will try to build a name for themselves, and accumulate material wealth for selfish purposes, but this is going to be meaningless on the other side. What matters is doing what Jesus wanted us to do... We accumulate "heaven points" this way. Those won't be taken from us, contrary to the risk that our earthly possessions face.

When we pass on, our material possessions might as well be something we dreamed about the previous night.

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OnlyTrump20 7 points ago +7 / -0

Good stewardship involves making something with what you have.

From Luke 19:

Then the other servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your gold coin; I kept it stored away in a handkerchief, for I was afraid of you, because you are a demanding man; you take up what you did not lay down and you harvest what you did not plant.’ He said to him, ‘With your own words I shall condemn you, you wicked servant. You knew I was a demanding man, taking up what I did not lay down and harvesting what I did not plant; why did you not put my money in a bank? Then on my return I would have collected it with interest.’ And to those standing by he said, ‘Take the gold coin from him and give it to the servant who has ten.’ But they said to him, ‘Sir, he has ten gold coins.’ He replied, ‘I tell you, to everyone who has, more will be given, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away.

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tholins 3 points ago +3 / -0

Leftism holds that choice as an act unto itself is a good, and any restraint of choice itself is evil. That’s pretty much Lucifer’s position, and the logic he uses to get Eve to eat the damn apple.

Leftist believes that all men are inherently good, will inherently choose good, and any evil is a result of environmental/outside factors. The Old Testament is literally the story of humans fucking it up time and time again on their own until Jesus shows up to give us the chance to clean up our mess. Also, original sin.

Leftism believes that centralization is where all good comes from - ie, the government must handle charitable efforts. Jesus hammers the point home again and again that charity and good works start with the individual.