I guess I've always seen Operation Paperclip as a grey area. Do we know if Von Braun was an ardent Nazi? What were the conditions of his manufacturing facility - did he request German workers and was sent concentration camp slaves? Did he resist and was told to stfu and make rockets? Were the prisoners mistreated? Was he for or against mistreatment? Did he laugh maniacally when his rockets fell on British citizens, or chalk it up as misfortune (like every power did when they did heinous shit - Chuchill and Dresden, etc.)? How did Von Braun's "flipping" to the USA and his subsequent career play into the Cold War and it's outcome? Are we able to forgive those who repent, if they've truly asked forgiveness/given themselves to something bigger than themselves? Did he?
This has always stood in stark contrast to say something like granting immunity to the physician leaders of Japan's Unit 731, which wasn't building rockets but performing horrific biological research on Chinese test subjects. The information was deemed valuable and, to get back to where we started, was initiated and approved by a US general, General MacArthur.
We should have taken Patton's advice, not stopped in Germany and drove on into Russia to kill the fucking commies.
“I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them... the Russian has no regard for human life and they are all out sons-of-bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks.”
Eh, we needed to take out the reds of all shapes and sizes.
I fear though, in an ever crazy world, the final bastion of any form of Christianity and anything resembling western Values may be Russian based geographically and ethnically. We just have to kick the old Soviets out like Putin.
Largest Muslim population outside Shit-Izstan.
Massive Heroin Epidemic killing the largely weak, drunk fetal alcohol boys.
99% of the country in abject poverty, misery, drowning in booze and smokes.
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.
Matthew 27: 50-53
"And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.
51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and[e] went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
REVENGE IS SWEET, BOYS!
What was/is the argument against Operation Paperclip?
Nazis who should have hanged, didnt.
Who and for what crimes?
Werner Von Braun depending on your point of view.
For the design of the v2 the misery involved in its production and the deaths its implementation caused.
NASA
As described in another comment, Werner Von Braun.
His v1 and v2 rockets were unaimable and basically shot indiscriminately against England, hitting civilians.
Further, his production used slave labor from the camps.
He was a war criminal, but with valuable info on rockets. The US made some deals with devils at the fall of the 3rd Reich.
I guess I've always seen Operation Paperclip as a grey area. Do we know if Von Braun was an ardent Nazi? What were the conditions of his manufacturing facility - did he request German workers and was sent concentration camp slaves? Did he resist and was told to stfu and make rockets? Were the prisoners mistreated? Was he for or against mistreatment? Did he laugh maniacally when his rockets fell on British citizens, or chalk it up as misfortune (like every power did when they did heinous shit - Chuchill and Dresden, etc.)? How did Von Braun's "flipping" to the USA and his subsequent career play into the Cold War and it's outcome? Are we able to forgive those who repent, if they've truly asked forgiveness/given themselves to something bigger than themselves? Did he?
This has always stood in stark contrast to say something like granting immunity to the physician leaders of Japan's Unit 731, which wasn't building rockets but performing horrific biological research on Chinese test subjects. The information was deemed valuable and, to get back to where we started, was initiated and approved by a US general, General MacArthur.
I know for sure GEOTUS admires Patton and I do too!
“I am a soldier, I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight.”
You magnificent bastard. I read your book. -TRUMP-
did patton come back in trumps body?
Sure seems like it sometimes, doesn’t it?
If I recall isnt Trump born just months after Pattons death?
6 months
Patton himself believed he had been reincarnated many times throughout history as well.
Yes.
We should have taken Patton's advice, not stopped in Germany and drove on into Russia to kill the fucking commies.
“I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them... the Russian has no regard for human life and they are all out sons-of-bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks.”
Eh, we needed to take out the reds of all shapes and sizes.
I fear though, in an ever crazy world, the final bastion of any form of Christianity and anything resembling western Values may be Russian based geographically and ethnically. We just have to kick the old Soviets out like Putin.
United Slavic States has a nice ring to it.
Big difference between Slavs and Bolsheveks, if only we could figure it out...
Largest Muslim population outside Shit-Izstan. Massive Heroin Epidemic killing the largely weak, drunk fetal alcohol boys. 99% of the country in abject poverty, misery, drowning in booze and smokes.
.. yeah.. sure thing.
Alright, so maybe my views of strong slavs are primarily from Ukraine and Polish friends, but many of them are ethnically Russian.
The potential is there. The land is a harsh master, but revival of the countries soul can still happen. A spark lingers.
Make Ethnic Clensing Great Again?
So what I'm hearing is that Trump hasn't been planning this since 2018, he hasn't been planning this since 2016, he's been planning this since 1945?
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.
Robert Jordan eh?
This was not THE beginning, but it was A beginning.
Yes he did.
Been calling him our modern Patton for a long time now. ❤
Man his speeches are GOLD.
George did.
That might as well be a hit piece. All it does is dispute it without even saying what it's disputing.
such a great post, this NEEDS a sticky
HELLS YES!!
Christianity explicitly endorses reincarnation (second coming)
I'm sure your well thought out response combined with a down vote will totally change someone's mind... Why even bother
Concept of rebirth is intrinsic to christianity. Not necessarily reincarnation, but what is the second coming if not the same spirit in a new body?
Your earthly body is but a vessel. Flesh does not translate parallel to spirit
Spez: also, might consider that the deity of the Son existed long before incarnation of flesh
Time traveler Trump
💯
Victor Davis Hansen compared the two
I don't believe in reincarnation
Trust in Jesus
Matthew 27: 50-53 "And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.
51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and[e] went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
I don't believe in reincarnation.