Help me understand this part. From what I found on https://www.a2gov.org/departments/city-clerk/Elections/Pages/ElectionInspectors.aspx it leads me to believe that the AVCB's wouldn't have registered voters anyway so they'd be a 0. It's "like" a precinct but isn't. I'm probably wrong but would like a pede that does know better to 'splain it to me.
"Absentee Voter Count Board – The AVCB operates like a precinct except, instead of processing voters, the election inspectors process and tabulate all of the absentee ballots. AVCB workers are sequestered in City Hall from 8:00 AM – until the last ballot has been processed, typically 10:00 PM or later."
No, they are hiding the number of registered voters because they don't want anyone to see that the number of people that voted out number the number of registered voters.
Imagine if there are 1900 registered voters in AVCB 32 but 2200 voted that would be too obvious, so they hide the registered voters to avoid this issue
I think that the AVCB sections cover more than one precinct, not sure why its organized like that but it is. Perhaps more information can be gleaned from the older 2016 data for the election but honestly if this was anything people would have brought it up in 2016... like deleting the data from an excel sheet is such a stupid way to potentially cheat lol...
But if you look at the 2016 data you can see Wayne county had 788,459 voters whereas in the 2020 election it only had 878,102 voters (a difference of 89,643)... so the turn out is barely higher.
It's also interesting to see the number of registered voters barely increased from 2016 to 2020 (a difference of 70,732 votes):
2016: 1,335,623
2020: 1,406,355
Technically you could argue that they are adding a small percentage of additional votes (like ~20%) in a lot of super blue counties that will go Biden anyways in order to increase their overall lead, which would be interesting if you could prove it... Which spoiler alert, you won't be able to prove any of this especially if this was all done in a decentralized fashion by individual groups or persons without any communication between them...
They need to produce actual evidence or just stop this its all really cringey at this point. If only Trump had been President for the last several years with a Republican Senate perhaps he could have attempted to implement some better voting systems....... oh wait.
Detroit has 500 something precincts. Some as small as 1 voter.
They are all lumped together and distributed among 134 absent voter counting boards at the TCF Center downtown Detroit.
This is a big nothing burger
Detroit is the only precincts that do it this way in MI if you're correct. If 178k of them are registered on the rolls reporting all registered voters, this amount will push voter turn out WAYYYYY past 100%
You’re wrong.
There are 503 precincts in Detroit. Some as small as 1 registered voter.
They lump the absentee ballots from theses 503 precincts into a big pile, and distribute them among 134 absent voter counting boards.
If you’re in Dearborn or Melvindale your absentee ballot will (usually) be counted by your precinct, but if you’re in one of city of Detroit’s precincts, your counting will be done at the TCF Center in downtown Detroit.
Because nobody is a registered voter to the TCF centre, the registered voters for AV Counting board 113 will be set as 0.
Help me understand this part. From what I found on https://www.a2gov.org/departments/city-clerk/Elections/Pages/ElectionInspectors.aspx it leads me to believe that the AVCB's wouldn't have registered voters anyway so they'd be a 0. It's "like" a precinct but isn't. I'm probably wrong but would like a pede that does know better to 'splain it to me.
"Absentee Voter Count Board – The AVCB operates like a precinct except, instead of processing voters, the election inspectors process and tabulate all of the absentee ballots. AVCB workers are sequestered in City Hall from 8:00 AM – until the last ballot has been processed, typically 10:00 PM or later."
No, they are hiding the number of registered voters because they don't want anyone to see that the number of people that voted out number the number of registered voters.
Imagine if there are 1900 registered voters in AVCB 32 but 2200 voted that would be too obvious, so they hide the registered voters to avoid this issue
No I think the previous two guys are right, this also happened in the 2016 election: https://www.waynecounty.com/documents/clerk/1611BLTL.pdf
I think that the AVCB sections cover more than one precinct, not sure why its organized like that but it is. Perhaps more information can be gleaned from the older 2016 data for the election but honestly if this was anything people would have brought it up in 2016... like deleting the data from an excel sheet is such a stupid way to potentially cheat lol...
But if you look at the 2016 data you can see Wayne county had 788,459 voters whereas in the 2020 election it only had 878,102 voters (a difference of 89,643)... so the turn out is barely higher.
It's also interesting to see the number of registered voters barely increased from 2016 to 2020 (a difference of 70,732 votes): 2016: 1,335,623 2020: 1,406,355
Technically you could argue that they are adding a small percentage of additional votes (like ~20%) in a lot of super blue counties that will go Biden anyways in order to increase their overall lead, which would be interesting if you could prove it... Which spoiler alert, you won't be able to prove any of this especially if this was all done in a decentralized fashion by individual groups or persons without any communication between them...
They need to produce actual evidence or just stop this its all really cringey at this point. If only Trump had been President for the last several years with a Republican Senate perhaps he could have attempted to implement some better voting systems....... oh wait.
Detroit has 500 something precincts. Some as small as 1 voter. They are all lumped together and distributed among 134 absent voter counting boards at the TCF Center downtown Detroit. This is a big nothing burger
Detroit is the only precincts that do it this way in MI if you're correct. If 178k of them are registered on the rolls reporting all registered voters, this amount will push voter turn out WAYYYYY past 100%
Once your request is received by the local clerk, your signature on the request will be checked against your voter registration record before a ballot is issued. You must be a registered voter to receive an absent voter ballot, but you can register and apply for an absent voter ballot at the same time. Requests for absent voter ballots are processed immediately. Absent voter ballots may be issued to you at your home address or any address outside of your city or township of residence.
You're wrong. Look at the entire list: https://www.waynecounty.com/elected/clerk/election-results.aspx
The total number of registered voters for each county is reflected in the election day and AVCB rows.
You’re wrong. There are 503 precincts in Detroit. Some as small as 1 registered voter. They lump the absentee ballots from theses 503 precincts into a big pile, and distribute them among 134 absent voter counting boards.
If you’re in Dearborn or Melvindale your absentee ballot will (usually) be counted by your precinct, but if you’re in one of city of Detroit’s precincts, your counting will be done at the TCF Center in downtown Detroit. Because nobody is a registered voter to the TCF centre, the registered voters for AV Counting board 113 will be set as 0.
This