Oh the community college I went to did. I was able to transfer every single credit to a 4 year college. I worked my butt off and was able to graduate in 3 years total. Only had $13K in student loans for my Bachelor's degree. And the 52 hours I took at the community college for the 1 year I was there cost me almost nothing because of grants/scholarships, and I lived at home.
I did a lot of research before I went to college and I triple checked that credits would transfer before taking classes. Maybe stuff is different in Texas, but a lot of people I know did it the same way that I did and saved a crap ton of $.
That was the exact same thing my offspring did. It did not transfer. I agree with your approach to higher education. I view higher education as not more than a pure scam today. Especially with covid. The engineering students I have been around know far less than farmers do. Texas is all about diversity now. It's sad. Congratulations by the way.
Indeed it's a scam... I went for two years, my wife finished out hers, granted at a different university than when we started. Nothing works the way it's supposed to. I've heard horror stories where even if you go to the 4 year school the entire time they can just up and change requirements/not offer a final required class so you have to come back an extra semester and spend $10k more to still be considered a full time student for financial aid purposes etc. The advisors are absolutely fucking useless as they are supposed to guide students on credit requirements for programs they don't understand at all.
It's a bunch of bullshit. There are only a few careers that are worth the hassle and years of debt anymore.
Advisors push new students into 18 hour semesters knowing that those students will withdraw, or drop out, and they still get paid. College administrations are on par with used car lots. Both have salesmen that fuck you.
I graduated with two STEM degrees and years later decided I wanted to go back to university for something in the medical field. Found a school with an amazing program and reached out about it. I also had medical background from the SOCM program while I was in the Army and prep from the Special Forces Medical Sergeant (18D) prep and sustainment courses. Documentation in hand.
Ummmm yeah we are going to require you to start over as a freshman and not a degree transfer student as we feel all students need to attend the introduction to college and general education classes.
We need to gauge how well you can handle an environment where you might encounter stresses.
Not everyone is cut out for college.
Hmmmm yeah was your college a true regionally accredited institution?
(This one pissed me off the most as my university was a large state school which was part of a state institution that had over 1 million students attend annually between undergraduate and graduate as well as over 2 million adult education students)
I mean university is hard.
I hold a degree in computer science and went back for mathematics. Graduated Summa Cum Laude both times. Started off as part of a pre-med program initially and had the transcripts to show an A in my bio, chem, physics etc classes. Had documentation from the Army showing schools, programs, ATRRS correspondence courses, all that fun stuff. Official transcripts, letters of recommendation, references - they didn’t bother looking at any of that, ignored my questions and tried to pitch it to me as if I were an incoming freshman (this was a private university so they knew some sucker would bend over and take it) who would need to pay for extra semesters full of bullshit courses.
Really made me fed up with advisors and the idea of the continuing education system.
Oh that's horrible that the credits didn't transfer!!! I forgot to take into account that I graduated in 2009, so location and time could factor into this. Higher education is a scam if you get a philosophy/gender studies/art degree lol... if you get a degree that can actually earn you a decent income, I think it's fine. A lot of people are wasting money on useless degrees. I believe it comes from the lie that we are told in high school that you need to get a degree, any degree because it's better than not having one... which isn't true at all. It's all about getting the proper education/training/certification that will allow you to make a decent living.... so step one is figuring out what you want to do and step two is choosing the best path to get there. (Degree, vocational training, certification, apprenticeship, etc.)
They went to a accredited community college to get the basic stuff taken care of cheaper. UT did not accept the credits. The price of college is ridiculous today. It's a stem degree.
That's atrocious!!!!!! And I agree the prices are outrageous. The gov't needs to stop guaranteeing loans! That is a huge part of the problem. Colleges can keep raising their tuition rates because 18 year olds are guaranteed as much $ as they need for whatever degree they are getting. Just awful. I'm truly sorry your offspring has had to deal with that.
Yup. It was nuts. I took 13 hours fall semester followed by a 3 hour winter mini mester over Christmas break. Then I took 16 hours fall semester and a 3 hour maymester, and I took 17 hours over the summer while working full time. And I did it all with dial-up internet and some online classes. It was insane. I basically had no life.
Oh the community college I went to did. I was able to transfer every single credit to a 4 year college. I worked my butt off and was able to graduate in 3 years total. Only had $13K in student loans for my Bachelor's degree. And the 52 hours I took at the community college for the 1 year I was there cost me almost nothing because of grants/scholarships, and I lived at home.
I did a lot of research before I went to college and I triple checked that credits would transfer before taking classes. Maybe stuff is different in Texas, but a lot of people I know did it the same way that I did and saved a crap ton of $.
That was the exact same thing my offspring did. It did not transfer. I agree with your approach to higher education. I view higher education as not more than a pure scam today. Especially with covid. The engineering students I have been around know far less than farmers do. Texas is all about diversity now. It's sad. Congratulations by the way.
Indeed it's a scam... I went for two years, my wife finished out hers, granted at a different university than when we started. Nothing works the way it's supposed to. I've heard horror stories where even if you go to the 4 year school the entire time they can just up and change requirements/not offer a final required class so you have to come back an extra semester and spend $10k more to still be considered a full time student for financial aid purposes etc. The advisors are absolutely fucking useless as they are supposed to guide students on credit requirements for programs they don't understand at all.
It's a bunch of bullshit. There are only a few careers that are worth the hassle and years of debt anymore.
Advisors push new students into 18 hour semesters knowing that those students will withdraw, or drop out, and they still get paid. College administrations are on par with used car lots. Both have salesmen that fuck you.
Yup.
I graduated with two STEM degrees and years later decided I wanted to go back to university for something in the medical field. Found a school with an amazing program and reached out about it. I also had medical background from the SOCM program while I was in the Army and prep from the Special Forces Medical Sergeant (18D) prep and sustainment courses. Documentation in hand.
(This one pissed me off the most as my university was a large state school which was part of a state institution that had over 1 million students attend annually between undergraduate and graduate as well as over 2 million adult education students)
I hold a degree in computer science and went back for mathematics. Graduated Summa Cum Laude both times. Started off as part of a pre-med program initially and had the transcripts to show an A in my bio, chem, physics etc classes. Had documentation from the Army showing schools, programs, ATRRS correspondence courses, all that fun stuff. Official transcripts, letters of recommendation, references - they didn’t bother looking at any of that, ignored my questions and tried to pitch it to me as if I were an incoming freshman (this was a private university so they knew some sucker would bend over and take it) who would need to pay for extra semesters full of bullshit courses.
Really made me fed up with advisors and the idea of the continuing education system.
Oh that's horrible that the credits didn't transfer!!! I forgot to take into account that I graduated in 2009, so location and time could factor into this. Higher education is a scam if you get a philosophy/gender studies/art degree lol... if you get a degree that can actually earn you a decent income, I think it's fine. A lot of people are wasting money on useless degrees. I believe it comes from the lie that we are told in high school that you need to get a degree, any degree because it's better than not having one... which isn't true at all. It's all about getting the proper education/training/certification that will allow you to make a decent living.... so step one is figuring out what you want to do and step two is choosing the best path to get there. (Degree, vocational training, certification, apprenticeship, etc.)
Just my two cents...
They went to a accredited community college to get the basic stuff taken care of cheaper. UT did not accept the credits. The price of college is ridiculous today. It's a stem degree.
That's atrocious!!!!!! And I agree the prices are outrageous. The gov't needs to stop guaranteeing loans! That is a huge part of the problem. Colleges can keep raising their tuition rates because 18 year olds are guaranteed as much $ as they need for whatever degree they are getting. Just awful. I'm truly sorry your offspring has had to deal with that.
52 hours in one year?
Yup. It was nuts. I took 13 hours fall semester followed by a 3 hour winter mini mester over Christmas break. Then I took 16 hours fall semester and a 3 hour maymester, and I took 17 hours over the summer while working full time. And I did it all with dial-up internet and some online classes. It was insane. I basically had no life.