25
posted ago by RosettaStone +30 / -5

I'm Not Prepared to Abandon Tucker Carlson Yet, And I'm Suspicious About the Apparent Smear Campaign Against Him

I read a couple of posts on TheDonald saying that Tucker Carlson abandoned Sidney Powell:

https://thedonald.win/p/11QRfa1XO8/-amount-of-pedes-who-believe-tuc/c/ https://thedonald.win/p/11QRfa1GCn/tucker-just-completely-cucked-we/

He did not!

Instead of listening to what other people say, or listening to out-of-context shortened clips, listen to Tucker Carlson's whole Nov. 19th show (hopefully it doesn't disappear):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WZrznXVL6c

He starts out by talking about the Election Fraud press conference.

He points out that most of the media shamefully dismissed the press conference.

He stresses how important it is for us to take the accusations of Election Fraud seriously, and that we should all (including the media) want to get to the truth.

He then says that Powell's accusations are the most serious, and he includes a good clip of her stating her accusations.

Then comes the part where people are claiming that Carlson abandoned Powell.

Apparently Carlson tried to get Powell to come on the show to talk about her accusations, and her evidence, and apparently her people said no. In fact, it sounds like they may have been quite rude to Carlson, when they refused.

And Carlson is pissed. He strongly believes that the public has a right to know the facts, and he is upset that Powell won't come on and present the facts to his audience.

He goes on to defend himself as open-minded, so open-minded, in fact, that he even brings on people who talk about UFOs. That part is not well-written, but it sounds like Carlson might have been accused of being closed minded, as a reason not to come on his show.

People claimed that Carlson was saying that Powell's accusations are on the same level as UFO claims, in terms of credibility, but he never said that.

Carlson then goes on to talk to Greg Gutfeld, and Carlson again makes the point that there is credible evidence of Election Fraud, and the media should want to look at that evidence, and get to the truth.

Listen to the show, and decide for yourself whether I have mis-characterized it.

So, where does that leave us?

Carlson is upset that Powell won't come on his show and talk about her evidence.

And he was not very clear in his attempts to defend himself as open-minded.

And for that we are supposed to abandon him? Seriously?

Over the past year, Tucker Carlson has been one of the strongest voices in support of freedom in America.

He has called out the idiocy of the Left's Political Correctness. He has pointed out the violence, and the fact that it has all come from the Left.

He has repeatedly said that the Democrats' message is "Do what we say... or we'll hurt you."

Tucker Carlson has been a huge thorn in the Left's side, and he may have been a strong force in getting Trump re-elected. The Left would love to split us up, and have us reject Carlson.

And now, after one pissy moment, and a less-than-clear statement about open-mindedness, we are supposed to conclude that it was all a sham, and Carlson has been against us all along?

I don't buy it. I'll have to see a lot more evidence than that.

Comments (29)
sorted by:
7
Polkadotard 7 points ago +7 / -0

The problem is that Tucker acts like it's Powells obligation to be on his show and explain something. It's not. Trump's team spent an hour and 45 minute's outlining the case. The hard evidence will be presented in court. If Powell were to slip up and reveal the wrong thing, it could spoil the entire argument. Powell doesn't owe Tucker anything, and he acted like a child who was told no.

2
StrongIsland 2 points ago +2 / -0

☝️This

2
RosettaStone [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

he acted like a child who was told no

There is some truth in that.

2
MusicToMyEars 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here is Powell suggesting that Tucker was rude. She wrote back “not to contact me again in those terms”. She DID send him evidence: 1 affidavit she hadn’t yet shared with other media and the name of a statistical pro who could better explain that analysis.

https://thedonald.win/p/11QRkAysq9/sidney-powell-responds-to-cucker/c/

TUCKER FAILED TO MENTION THIS.

Sadly, this is now devolved into a “he said she said” soap opera. I blame Tucker. But let’s not forget the Big Picture. Both want voter integrity and truth to prevail. I hope Tucker apologizes and refuses to extend his character assassination any further.

7
weltbild 7 points ago +11 / -4

stop being naive

2
NuclearRocks1 2 points ago +5 / -3

Low info voter

2
weltbild 2 points ago +5 / -3

High disninformation voters

2
NuclearRocks1 2 points ago +2 / -0

👍

5
unbeknownst 5 points ago +6 / -1

Where have you been these past few weeks? There is more than enough reason not to trust anyone at FOX. I like Cucker Tarlson as well but it seems that at the very least he is being pressured into acting a certain way, and for that reason I don't think it's wise to listen to him until after this whole debacle is over.

3
RosettaStone [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

For the record, of course I do NOT trust FOX.

FOX has only kept a few good people on, like Carlson and Gutfeld, as cover.

FOX was always intended to be a pied piper, to lead us down the wrong path at a critical time. It didn't work -- we think for ourselves!

But I don't hold it against Carlson, and the few other good people, for not leaving FOX (yet).

By staying on, they managed to reach a large mainstream audience with the truth.

We all have different strategies for contributing in the best way we can.

Edit: But it does seem that now would be a good time for those few good people to abandon FOX, if they want to save their credibility.

2
FromTheThirdEstate 2 points ago +2 / -0

-- we think for ourselves!

Well, some of us do.

Lots of thought police and Karens here, too, though.

5
HuggaMaga 5 points ago +5 / -0

I agree with you. I'm not happy with the network, but Tucker has been awesome for many years on the Trump supporter side.

4
SentryS 4 points ago +4 / -0

Tucker writes his show.

You're saying that the segment which he; highlights Sydney's claims, RIGHT NEXT TO comparing segments of UFO's ( drawing parallels and conjuring conditioned emotional responses of rejection and skepticism) and then; chastised her for refusing to share her papers after introducing the premise, was not a coordinated effort attempting to discredit or at least cast a shadow of doubt on the issue? Why would he want to do that?

Instead of just highlighting the claims, some of which has been presented by sydney on their network already, he wanted special access to her files and she rebuked it. That makes tucker mad.

He plays his fiddle exceptionally well and isn't stupid. He knows what he's doing. And so does fox.

They got an job to do right now. And it's to make as many trump supporters as possible to doubt the counter narrative and accept their new master joe biden.

Tucker was put on notice on the laptop... This had nothing to do with any crazy whacky theory that he so eloquently put it when implying that it's as controversial as the topic of aliens and spacecrafts from another Galaxy. No. He had no reason to hold back on some of the most damning evidence of corruption. He did anyway. And with a nod. "Hunter is my friend"

Tucker has a good job. A family. Kids. People have limits. People have price tags. It's not a far fetched idea that Tucker is no longer having the control of his show he once had before.

3
Theyreallinonit 3 points ago +4 / -1

Hunter Biden and Tucker Carlson are friends, he said that there should be no investigation into the possibility of sexual abuse of natalie biden his neice.

0
RosettaStone [S] 0 points ago +2 / -2

Provide a link.

4
3
RosettaStone [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

Skipping through Styxhexenhammer666's rant, to what Carlson actually said:

https://youtu.be/lXgO7L0rcAQ?t=221

So Carlson used to live near Hunter, and Hunter seemed like a nice enough guy, back then. That's it?

And just before that, Carlson was explaining that, while Hunter's personal-life failings may not be relevant to the election, his business deals, especially where they relate to his father, are definitely relevant, and will be discussed.

Thank you for providing the link. Now I understand the context.

But, again, it doesn't seem like something that discredits Carlson, any more than Trump's early acquaintance with Epstein.

1
Theyreallinonit 1 point ago +1 / -0

"absolutely outstanding person, a good person" as said by tucker

and you come away with "no none of its true its not possible"

your doing mental gymnastics to convince yourself and or others "he's a good guy"

no, no thanks.

3
deleted 3 points ago +3 / -0
3
Winter_Is_Coming2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

I gave up on the network entirely; started out with the 5, it got old, then negative comments during fireworks show right after Trumps nomination acceptance speech, Tyrus on GG (gEoRgE KiRbY WaS MuRdErEd!!!!!!!), then pathetic election night coverage - the rest, Tucker, Levin, Hilton got dumped en masse, I don’t care what Tucker says good or bad, but it also pissed me off he asked Hunter Biden for favors long ago.

3
deleted 3 points ago +3 / -0
2
MusicToMyEars 2 points ago +2 / -0

I watched. You are right: Tucker said nothing untruthful. Plus, he actually reiterated most of the important allegations leveled by Giuliani and Powell. (Kudos for him, since most MSM are ignoring it.)

What he didn’t say is that Powell stated she’s waiting to present the evidence in court. That she is not going to try the case in the media. Because that’s not how real law should be conducted. He also didn’t mention that her leveling these charges without proof would probably cost her her reputation and law career. He didn’t mention, when talking about her potential evidence, the statistical analysis that implies she’s on to something. He stated she has never mentioned any evidence that a single vote was switched. But then failed to mention the anomalies that can only be explained by algorithmic vote switching. Or that she has insider whistleblower affidavits (which she can’t share yet). Etc.

Yes, he never called her a liar, never outright implied it. But he did imply that there’s a chance she is lying, or is self-deluded like so many others in today’s public eye, and the way he impaled her character by mentioning that they told him to shut up and stop asking for evidence, made her look suspiciously untrustworthy.

The end result of this monologue segment for me was: don’t believe Powell until there’s proof, but keep watching because if she is it will be the biggest story in American history. That seems reasonable. But I think him changing a few words here or there would’ve made Powell, as a force for truth and justice in the past, a credible source that deserves our patience and ear. She has never been untrustworthy in the past.

Greg Gutfeld than came on to state this isn’t about Left-Right or Dem-GOP. It’s about a Movement vs The Resistance. He framed the entire discussion in a way that made them both become mere observers of a Historical Moment. I appreciated that.

2
deleted 2 points ago +7 / -5
3
RosettaStone [S] 3 points ago +5 / -2

Interesting. You just posted this, a simple nice statement, and someone immediately downvoted you, whereas the guy who posted "don't be naive" was immediately upvoted.

It sure looks like a smear campaign to me.

2
mamakin 2 points ago +2 / -0

I listened ,again "and apparently *her people *said no." Barracudas People are watching out for her,.. Not a Problem Carlson was/is at the Top of the Talking heads pile and Tuck got a little Personal about the snub, ..Not a Problem Im never gonna let unknown Faces tell me what/who I have to get in line with And if the Faceless/backstabbers at the drop of a hat, based by another backstabber, just to stay in line with other backstabbers then you oughta start voting 'D' cause WE The common sense people NEVER Guillotine a person with a Dull blade, because THEY we're to Lazy sharpen it Tucks, 10,000 goods definitely outweigh his 1(?) bad

1
trumptrain11 1 point ago +2 / -1

Is that you, Tucker?

1
DreamChaser2 1 point ago +1 / -0

You don’t make public the evidence of a case before it’s in court because that opens it up to tampering and coercion. Anyone who’s ever watched court TV knows this, including Tucker Carlson.

1
NotADocileLady 1 point ago +1 / -0

Carlson is CIA.

He controls his viewership with proven techniques.

Might want to cut and run, fren.

1
Fulliotomatix 1 point ago +1 / -0

It seems clear to me. Tucker works in the media. He needs guests to come to his show. If someone refuses that hurts his show.

It seems like he's protecting his business a bit.

The part about Hunter is not really represented well. Clearly, Hunter's father was/is getting kickbacks which should disqualify him from all politics not to mention provide him with a prison sentence. But I don't really give two shits about Hunter himself, he's just some crackhead deviant pedophile. It's a matter for law enforcement (hah!). The focus needs to be on his father's involvement in all of this. I think that is what Tucker is saying.

With all that said, at this point we need some real fire breathing dragons here instead of mild mannered Tucker. No more wishy washy bullshit providing excuses for Hunter when none was ever requested. Why even bring him up?? Its time for scorched earth!