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A re-count is not the same thing as an audit. IIRC if an audit finds improprieties, then the House can vote to nullify the election, and choose the electors themselves.
GA was a recount, an audit, a canvas and a recanvass, all in one! The secretary of State said so!
Nevermind the fact that they didn’t look for any irregularities and just recounted all the fake ballots again. They even tried to sneak in an extra 10k in the recount.
They didn't even recount all the ballots. They just selected "statistically significant batches" of ballots and simply recounted those. It's a total farce.
AINO doesn't really have that same catchy sound does it?
Govt did mention in a press release it would be a full audit, recanvas and recount. Obviously it was barely only one of those things.
Given the allegations that world destroyer Powell has laid before the American public, and Lin woods tweets, Kemp is very much implicated here. So there's no real surprise if true he'd so blatantly lie on TV to make this a giant and expensive charade
A "Risk Limiting Audit" -- in other words, a small one that is supposed to prove through a sample that no fraud occurred overall. Conveniently when even this uncovered huge disparities in the small number of sampled counties, they outright ignored the very purpose and meaning of the RLA itself and jumped straight to certification. The results of the RLA would demand a full audit, but they simply declined to do that and played off the RLA as if it were a full audit by itself. Smokescreens, misdirections, and lies of omission.
Anyone listening to legacy media at this point will believe anything at all that they are told. They could claim the moon is gone and these tools would run around on a full moon, call us all conspiracy theorists and space fascists.
This resolution may have more repercussions than folks realize.
The appointment of electors is made by the current legislature. Although there are laws in place (by past legislatures) to automatically give the electors based on vote, Secretary of State or governor certification, etc — the practice is not challenged as one party usually has already conceded.
Here, we have a CURRENT legislature resolve to do an audit. This indicates the current legislature does not yet approve the electors, regardless of the actions by any other part of the state government.
I haven’t double checked the math on the two state tie vs three state win, but I believe the only tie (not considering scenarios where a state doesn’t send electors at all) is 269 to 269.
If neither Pedo Joe nor GEOTUS hit 270 EC votes, the election goes to congress. Each state delegation gets one vote. Rs control more state delegations. So while yes, there could be a Republican congressman who cucks out, I think that’s less likely in case of a tie.
SPEZ:
Reading the article this doesn’t necessarily look helpful. The audit would deliver a report by February? That sounds like a “wow this was fucked up but oh well, let’s do better next time!”
True. That also depends on the faithless elector laws in the different states.
In some states faithless electors are cool. In other states a faithless vote is not counted. In others it’s counted, but the faithless elector is charged with a misdemeanor.
With that being said, I think the faithless elector angle is less likely than most other outcomes. I don’t think it has ever happened in a scenario where it made a difference, and was only for show.
Any close electoral count, especially if there are states where the electors were appointed by the states legislature's, there will be protest and lots of pressure for the electors to "go with the popular vote"
That is a good first step, but if the audit will not be completed before it’s time to certified and what is the point? This seems like a big squish. Do not certify until the order is complete and you know that everything was above board. Am I missing something?
Doesn't have to be completed. If the audit shows any improprieties they are within their rights to NOT certify the election, and instead the legislature will choose their electors.
I am just wary of squishy Republicans everywhere, especially here in Pennsylvania. This sounds like they could slow walk the audit to show everybody they are “doing something” but then still certify anyway. Kind of like the bullshit that’s going on in Georgia right now
Not as squishy anymore - the voting machine people didnt show up for the PA Legislature Q&A this morning and they are pissed. Had a press briefing at 9EST this morning and said things like 'what are they afraid of". I think their ego was insulted and thats not good to do to a PA legislature - they may start to believe Sidney - so chin up!
Yes, February, after inauguaration is pretty useless. The only possible positive that I can think of is if Feb is for the final report but some of the audit data is released ahead of time to allow the PA Legislature more data decide if they will certify the election or if instead they will bypass election results and have the legislature vote.
It works if they refuse to certify the election before the audit is completed. The legislature would probably step in so Pennsylvania wouldn't lose representation.
Quite pleased that the article stated the State Senate does not need to approve of the resolution for it to take effect. Hopefully, we get a real audit and not the farce that's going on in Georgia.
This doesn't effect the current election and the results aren't due until February. Pointless smoke and mirrors by the same fucks who gave them the mail in rules that allowed so much fraud to begin with.
Wtf is a 'risk-limiting' audit? Is this another euphemism like the Patriot Act or the Affordable Care Act? Not at all being a doomer but skeptical that this audit will produce the evidence of fraud we need to produce in higher courts to claim victory.
‘The chamber voted 112 to 90 for a resolution that told the Legislative Budget and Finance Committee, or a contractor it will hire, to conduct the audit and report back by early February.’ ——-How is this good news? By early Feb? This sounds like another Durham report.
‘Separately, the Department of State plans another “risk limiting” audit under a pilot program to apply statistical tools that will measure the election’s accuracy and check for possible interference.’ ——-This part looks more interesting. Anyone have info on this pilot program and what statistical tools they will be using?
The resolution probably has no direct teeth, just indirect: do a clean audit or else we sub our electors. I like the sound of that!! It will help bring along the legislatures from other states.
This is a chess move. Its success is measured not only by whether it eats another piece, but also how it sets up future moves, and forces the opponent to move.
For example with an audit underway, even with partial results or discoveries the legislature is able to reasonably doubt the veracity, and then nullify the election, leaving it up to the legislature to vote on the electors.
They will do what GA did. Count fraudulent ballots
A re-count is not the same thing as an audit. IIRC if an audit finds improprieties, then the House can vote to nullify the election, and choose the electors themselves.
I thought GA was an audit also?
In name only.. they're not doing it right, hence the lawsuit
GA was a recount, an audit, a canvas and a recanvass, all in one! The secretary of State said so!
Nevermind the fact that they didn’t look for any irregularities and just recounted all the fake ballots again. They even tried to sneak in an extra 10k in the recount.
GA is the proof that the demonrats are running their guys as republicans
I think Kemp cut a deal with Dominion to beat Abrams and he is now paying back his debt.
Powell said as much someone signed a deal to basically be guaranteed he would win a reelection bid
You mean the uniparty uniparties.
They didn't even recount all the ballots. They just selected "statistically significant batches" of ballots and simply recounted those. It's a total farce.
Wait what? I didn't know this.
They recounted only part of the ballots, the gap between Biden and President Trump shrinked by 13% and they called it a day?
Looks like GA audit did a recount of all (freshly printed) ballots.
https://sos.ga.gov/admin/uploads/11.19_.20_Risk_Limiting_Audit_Report_Memo_.pdf
Audit boards from all 159 Georgia counties examined 41881 batches, hand-sorting and counting each ballot as part of the process
Also nevermind they printed new ballots to get the count they needed, and are shredding them now.
Called it that bit did not do it.
What makes you think something other than that will happen in PA?
If they tried that then the legislature that just called for the audit would declare it fraudulent and select the electors.
AINO doesn't really have that same catchy sound does it?
Govt did mention in a press release it would be a full audit, recanvas and recount. Obviously it was barely only one of those things.
Given the allegations that world destroyer Powell has laid before the American public, and Lin woods tweets, Kemp is very much implicated here. So there's no real surprise if true he'd so blatantly lie on TV to make this a giant and expensive charade
In name only, just like their Republicans.
A "Risk Limiting Audit" -- in other words, a small one that is supposed to prove through a sample that no fraud occurred overall. Conveniently when even this uncovered huge disparities in the small number of sampled counties, they outright ignored the very purpose and meaning of the RLA itself and jumped straight to certification. The results of the RLA would demand a full audit, but they simply declined to do that and played off the RLA as if it were a full audit by itself. Smokescreens, misdirections, and lies of omission.
Anyone listening to legacy media at this point will believe anything at all that they are told. They could claim the moon is gone and these tools would run around on a full moon, call us all conspiracy theorists and space fascists.
Moon nazi.
Especially when you know where the fraud is, so you spot check elsewhere
Yeah that's why it's called Risk Limiting Audit ... to limit the risk of getting caught.
I think it’s an audit and then a separate risk limiting audit which doesn’t make sense to me but yeah
They didn't do a full audit in two or three days. It was only the RLA.
They were a process audit. Did the counters mistake the count. I don't know what this one is.
This resolution may have more repercussions than folks realize.
The appointment of electors is made by the current legislature. Although there are laws in place (by past legislatures) to automatically give the electors based on vote, Secretary of State or governor certification, etc — the practice is not challenged as one party usually has already conceded.
Here, we have a CURRENT legislature resolve to do an audit. This indicates the current legislature does not yet approve the electors, regardless of the actions by any other part of the state government.
PA audit has an end date of Feb 2021
Georgia's quick audit was done by a left-wing company called Votingworks
https://voting.works/risk-limiting-audits/
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/voting-works/
This should not be allowed to stand.
Very left-wing, partly funded by Soros. Designed their audit system with the recently-fired Mr. Krebs from CISA.
Dan Bongino talked about VotingWorks a few days ago on his podcast.
Second this, people fall to the crystal ball fallacy a little too often on this site.
Ask again in two months.
A hand recount is the solution you ar looking for
With signature verification
Audit. Know the difference.
This is BS... "report back by early February".
Wish I could upvote this higher because this isn't a win. The date of audit needs to be ASAP.
Complete farce. find out if there was corruption right after inauguration
That would effectively mean the state legislators are selecting electors, because they won't delay inauguration.
So we take back Pennsylvania in the end. We need Georgia and 1 other state?
I think when the dust settles we get MI WI PA & NV for the win.
GA is a high possibility too since its so close and they are filing a lawsuit.
I think both GA & MI are 16 EV each.
If so, they are interchangeable.
But best if we get both.
Should also challenge VA.
And a tie = a win unless congress cucks out
A tie is a loss, one republican Cuck in the electoral college will be bribed to flip.
Probably Pelosi makes the final decision what rules they need to follow.
I haven’t double checked the math on the two state tie vs three state win, but I believe the only tie (not considering scenarios where a state doesn’t send electors at all) is 269 to 269.
If neither Pedo Joe nor GEOTUS hit 270 EC votes, the election goes to congress. Each state delegation gets one vote. Rs control more state delegations. So while yes, there could be a Republican congressman who cucks out, I think that’s less likely in case of a tie.
SPEZ:
Reading the article this doesn’t necessarily look helpful. The audit would deliver a report by February? That sounds like a “wow this was fucked up but oh well, let’s do better next time!”
It's only 269-269 if all electors stay faithful. Not so hard to plant one rino to unfaithfully vote Biden. And there's no way to stop it.
True. That also depends on the faithless elector laws in the different states.
In some states faithless electors are cool. In other states a faithless vote is not counted. In others it’s counted, but the faithless elector is charged with a misdemeanor.
With that being said, I think the faithless elector angle is less likely than most other outcomes. I don’t think it has ever happened in a scenario where it made a difference, and was only for show.
Any close electoral count, especially if there are states where the electors were appointed by the states legislature's, there will be protest and lots of pressure for the electors to "go with the popular vote"
Michigan and Wisconsin get us there
We should just call for all 50 states to have their legislatures meet and appoint their electors.
That is a good first step, but if the audit will not be completed before it’s time to certified and what is the point? This seems like a big squish. Do not certify until the order is complete and you know that everything was above board. Am I missing something?
Doesn't have to be completed. If the audit shows any improprieties they are within their rights to NOT certify the election, and instead the legislature will choose their electors.
I am just wary of squishy Republicans everywhere, especially here in Pennsylvania. This sounds like they could slow walk the audit to show everybody they are “doing something” but then still certify anyway. Kind of like the bullshit that’s going on in Georgia right now
Good, as you should be. Hold your local officials accountable, don't just assume they'll do the right thing.
Oh I’ve been on the phone and I have a decent social media presence
Not as squishy anymore - the voting machine people didnt show up for the PA Legislature Q&A this morning and they are pissed. Had a press briefing at 9EST this morning and said things like 'what are they afraid of". I think their ego was insulted and thats not good to do to a PA legislature - they may start to believe Sidney - so chin up!
Evacuating all US based Offices is bad optics at a minimum for Dominion.
The Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader in PA seem pretty based.
Yes, February, after inauguaration is pretty useless. The only possible positive that I can think of is if Feb is for the final report but some of the audit data is released ahead of time to allow the PA Legislature more data decide if they will certify the election or if instead they will bypass election results and have the legislature vote.
this is bullshit.... report due in february...
That's great news!
This will not help Trump. These Republicans need to STEP UP.
It works if they refuse to certify the election before the audit is completed. The legislature would probably step in so Pennsylvania wouldn't lose representation.
Hope it won't be another fake audit by votingworks, the left wing group that did Geogia's "quick audit"
https://voting.works/risk-limiting-audits/
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/voting-works/
Quite pleased that the article stated the State Senate does not need to approve of the resolution for it to take effect. Hopefully, we get a real audit and not the farce that's going on in Georgia.
This doesn't effect the current election and the results aren't due until February. Pointless smoke and mirrors by the same fucks who gave them the mail in rules that allowed so much fraud to begin with.
Read the article folks.
This will do nothing
Risk Limiting Audit... As opposed to what they previously did, an actual partial recount.
https://www.worldtribune.com/soros-funded-organizations-have-assisted-with-election-security-in-pennsylvania-georgia-michigan/
They take a negligible number of votes, "randomly" chosen. Look at the article, "80% of the vote, they take 27 votes to verify". It's a sham.
Wtf is a 'risk-limiting' audit? Is this another euphemism like the Patriot Act or the Affordable Care Act? Not at all being a doomer but skeptical that this audit will produce the evidence of fraud we need to produce in higher courts to claim victory.
How about throwing in a class action lawsuit somewhere?
‘The chamber voted 112 to 90 for a resolution that told the Legislative Budget and Finance Committee, or a contractor it will hire, to conduct the audit and report back by early February.’ ——-How is this good news? By early Feb? This sounds like another Durham report.
‘Separately, the Department of State plans another “risk limiting” audit under a pilot program to apply statistical tools that will measure the election’s accuracy and check for possible interference.’ ——-This part looks more interesting. Anyone have info on this pilot program and what statistical tools they will be using?
Read they will do it in a few months. Is this true?
Insufferable, corrupt bastards.
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS, MY FRIENDS!!!
Between this and Trump Gordon, is there no Queen song we can't use? XD
Very good news!🤗
Awesome!
The resolution probably has no direct teeth, just indirect: do a clean audit or else we sub our electors. I like the sound of that!! It will help bring along the legislatures from other states.
AUDIT! Hell yes!
From my understanding, this is not relevant, as the results won't be in until a month after inauguration.
This is a chess move. Its success is measured not only by whether it eats another piece, but also how it sets up future moves, and forces the opponent to move.
For example with an audit underway, even with partial results or discoveries the legislature is able to reasonably doubt the veracity, and then nullify the election, leaving it up to the legislature to vote on the electors.
I have no faith in the PA legislature. They voted for mail ballots. The majority leader is a cuck. Supreme Court is where this goes.
Wouldn't that have been the Senate though?
Full audit or risk limiting audit?
This doesn't look like a vote audit. More like a process audit since its not even going to be completed until February.
This audit concludes in February????
Keep it up
winning!! 😎
Audit or recount? They called GA an audit but it was just a recount.