Requisition the civil airlines not being used right now because of Kung Flu Hysteria to shuttle illegal aliens out of the USA, using military armed guard and military pilot supervision, transit them to the furthest airport away in from the mainland US of the relevant country. Southern tip of Mexico, Costa Rica, European country etc.
Fine illegal aliens currently in the country every day. Seize assets to pay for their accommodation. Choice for wall bypassers: Instant $5000 fines for unlawfully crossing into country if you want to be processed, or turn around and leave.
Well yea, I didn't say anything about the $5k guaranteeing they could stay longer than the time it takes to keep them locked up and the cash shaken outta them.... heh. How about a tax on cash movements to south and central america too? I mean bloody hell there must be millions a day of US cash draining out of the economy going through western union....
Thought of an even better, faster way of dumping illegals back to their point of origin. Put em all in a hercules or other big military transport ships, hook them up to parachute auto deploy lines, open the door, boot em out. Free parachute ride/experience, and the cost of losing a parachute would cost way less than having to land a herc, refuel and take off again.
As long as they can be proven after a trial they committed murder or another capital crime, the mexican or relevant country of origin legal system may take care of that sentence for us, saving us money on capital punishment costs.
Why limit it to one state? Lets be equal about it, and ship them from all the states and territories. We will instantly be more productive, and could cover the plane costs in a year or two.
Californians already travel to socialist states. Portland.... ZING! :) “take my mother in law, please.”
Well I gather when one deports illegal aliens they are to be returned to their point of national origin. So, seeing as Mexico borders the USA, it is what it is, as far as Mexican nationals goes that are in the US illegally.
That’s why I said transit deportees to the most southern tip of Mexico. I am not sure one could deport Mexican nationals to any other nation, it’s not as if flying them to Belgium, they would take them, the Belgian gov would turn that plane around.
That whole "birthright citizenship" was intended for newly freed slaves, not so that any cunt that manages to shit out her spawn on American soil suddenly gets default citizenship because of her anchor-refuse.
That should have never been used the way it was used now and it's about goddamned time someone put an end to the bullshit!
I've never been really educated on this one particular bit: Does birthright citizenship refer to people who aren't citizens and having kids and the kid being a citizen just because it was born on our soil?
Doesn't have anything to do with a citizen's kid born here?
That’s right. If you’re American and have a kid here they’re citizens. What they want to end is birth tourism. Someone from China flies here shits out their kid and the kid gets citizenship and then 18 years later the parents do too.
I think citizenship should be earned by everyone. Everyone should have to take the citizenship test. Should be easy for most people that grow up here. At the very least you should learn the constitution and some history.
I don't think I'd agree that everyone born here has to earn citizenship.
If my family has been here from the beginning of this country (half of my family was, the other half came during WW1 or 2 I can't remember off hand) why should I, if I were born today, have to take a test to be considered a citizen? That's a bit weird.
Now, teaching people American and Constitutionalist values is very important and fortunately when I was still in school this was still being taught.
The biggest part of being a citizen is voting. If you don’t know anything about the country should you be making decisions on who /how it’s governed? Since communists took over and stopped teaching civics schools this would be a way to reverse some of that.
Birthright citizenship is the idea that just because your mom happened to be on American soil when she gave birth to you grants you automatic citizenship to the US, which is not actually how it's supposed to work.
It was originally supposed to grant citizenship to the newly freed slaves and was chosen over the more difficult and costly plan of rounding up all of the black people in the US and shipping them back to Africa.
The Amendment very specifically states that anyone born on US soil whose parents are subjecttothejurisdiction of the United States shall be granted citizenship.
The term "subject to the jurisdiction of the US" refers again to slaves and the children of slaves who were sold to citizens in the US and thus subject to our laws by legal means as a transfer of property.
This key phrase is what allows us to maintain our sovereignty and prevents the children of foreign ambassadors that are born in the US from becoming US citizens. Ambassadors and their families are subject to the jurisdiction of their home country, hence the diplomatic immunity they enjoy.
As a technical rule any child born in the US to non-US-citizen parents are actually considered nationals of whatever country their parents belong to (more specifically wherever the father is from).
However, in an effort to undermine the US Constitution, leftist lawyers have challenged this rule until courts have ruled in favor of the notion that anyone born on US soil is granted citizenship regardless of their parents' nationality.
This was done to skirt immigration laws to serve two purposes: 1) flood the market with cheap labor to drive down wages and drive up corporate profits and 2) accelerate demographic replacement of European-descended Americans.
“As a technical rule any child born in the US to non-US-citizen parents are actually considered nationals of whatever country their parents belong to (more specifically wherever the father is from)”
United States: The Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution, ratified in 1868, provides: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."[30] The concept of birthright citizenship applying to the child born of a foreign national in the country without proper credentials has never been formally litigated, but the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) allowed the government to deny citizenship to U.S.-born children only in the cases of children born to foreign diplomats and children born to enemy forces engaged in hostile occupation of the country's territory, and thus this decision is most often interpreted as barring the government from denying citizenship to a U.S.-born person based on the alienage of his or her parents.[31][32] (see United States nationality law).
So it will be tricky .
Expelling the illegals, curbing immigration and the problem would be far smaller.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Sounds tricky to me.
Unless you think the constitution is important only when it fits you.
That's the bit thats important: diplomats, etc. are not subject to the jurisdiction of the USA ... mor ar eillegal aliens since they are not here on the authorization of the FEDERAL gov. Visa holders, like I said, would be more tricky.
Yeah ... diplomats ... like diplomats were the problem. =))
Illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of USA that is why YOU CAN ARREST THEM and deport them . With the exception of diplomats ... I'm pretty certain that everybody within US borders is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
The 14th Amendment was originally intended to give citizenship to the children of freed slaves. It was not meant to be abused in the CURRENT YEAR manner of rewarding illegal aliens with citizenship for their children (much less legalized abortion, same-sex marriage, etc.)
He should make dual citizenship illegal too. People should be forced to choose between loyalty to America and loyalty to their "home country". A person can only have one home, either its America or it isn't. Dual citizens shouldn't be voting either.
All of the restrictions on running for president should also be placed on voting and on holding office. 18 year olds are too stupid to be voting, the logic that says that person needs to be 35 years old to be qualified for the presidential office is completely negated by allowing people who aren't at least as mature as 35 year olds to vote for president. its like asking a group of morons to pick who the smartest person is, its a mortal lock that they'll get it wrong.
It doesn't seem unreasonable that a person should have the basic qualifications necessary to serve in office to be qualified to express an opinion on who should be serving in that office. How is it even possible for an unqualified person to have the necessary insight required to make a good choice?
I disagree. What if a free born American citizen wants to hold citizenship in a second country and maintain homes and properties abroad? Maybe they fly back and forth and maintain residence in different countries during different parts of the year. Why shouldn't they be able to do that if they can afford to? If I am a free born American citizen I should be able to go anywhere I please on this damn earth or moon or other planets and as long as I'm paying taxes to the USA, why not?
And as far as voting, base it on taxes. If I paid a certain percentage of my income in taxes to the US, then I can vote that year. Anyone who didn't, can't. This prevents non-patriotic Americans who leech off of our system from voting, citizen or not. Only people with a vested interest get the vote.
The Republican president had told Axios news website in October 2018 that he would end “birthright citizenship” through an executive order. Experts have said such a move would run afoul of the U.S. Constitution.
By "experts" I assume they mean Leftist activists. The 14th Amendment has been abused for various Leftist Agenda causes that it was never meant to apply to (Roe vs Wade, same-sex marriage, etc.) Encouraging chain-migration and "birth tourism" by abusing the 14th Amendment to reward the children of illegal aliens with citizenship (and thus, rewarding their families and extended families with citizenship) is preposterous.
Frankly since we have been flooded by refugees and unwanted immigrants for far too long, clearly now against our will since officials cheated to become elected, there should be a moratorium on immigration for 10 years. Rare exceptions for individuals who have major contributions to make. THAT would MAGA!
It was changed in my country (Ireland) many years ago, more than 10 or so. When there was an influx of "asylum seekers" from Europe and UK with a month or two to go before having their babies.
This gets kind of tricky though, there are some that come to the US under certain circumstances and have kids and over the years become citizens (independent of their kids status).
I should know, this is what happened with my family. They escaped a communist shithole.
Oh they have a brain. They know damn well our election security is third world shithole-tier but they keep it that way because how else do you easily cheat?
I'd rather we just focus on ending illegal immigration. Even if we make birthright citizenship illegal, people are still going to come here illegally. Women are not going to stop because they're pregnant. They're also not going to stop having kids here. The only thing that's gonna change is that you're gonna have even more people defined as illegal aliens in the US.
Illegals typically don't get welfare as easily if everyone is illegal in the family, but they can get welfare easily if they have a baby here. It's a loophole to get around it.
No need to end something that doesn't actually exist. Very few countries have this stupid policy and the constitution is very clear.. get the Supreme Court to clarify
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that his administration was seriously looking at ending the right of citizenship for U.S.-born children of noncitizens and people who immigrated to the United States illegally.
His second term is going to need Space Force to track the winning as it leaves earth's orbit.
Somebody get Elon on the phone!
He's already up there, they both are always 100 million miles ahead
Top comment. Right there.
We are gonna colonize Mars with all our winning.
Requisition the civil airlines not being used right now because of Kung Flu Hysteria to shuttle illegal aliens out of the USA, using military armed guard and military pilot supervision, transit them to the furthest airport away in from the mainland US of the relevant country. Southern tip of Mexico, Costa Rica, European country etc.
Fine illegal aliens currently in the country every day. Seize assets to pay for their accommodation. Choice for wall bypassers: Instant $5000 fines for unlawfully crossing into country if you want to be processed, or turn around and leave.
How about, no. 5k fine AND kick them back out, and be glad we dont put them in jail for it for 20 years.
Well yea, I didn't say anything about the $5k guaranteeing they could stay longer than the time it takes to keep them locked up and the cash shaken outta them.... heh. How about a tax on cash movements to south and central america too? I mean bloody hell there must be millions a day of US cash draining out of the economy going through western union....
THIS! But no illegals in first class, that's where ICE sits :-)
Thought of an even better, faster way of dumping illegals back to their point of origin. Put em all in a hercules or other big military transport ships, hook them up to parachute auto deploy lines, open the door, boot em out. Free parachute ride/experience, and the cost of losing a parachute would cost way less than having to land a herc, refuel and take off again.
As long as they can be proven after a trial they committed murder or another capital crime, the mexican or relevant country of origin legal system may take care of that sentence for us, saving us money on capital punishment costs.
How about we ship all the sheeples that want to live in socialist countries while we are at it?
Like California?
Why limit it to one state? Lets be equal about it, and ship them from all the states and territories. We will instantly be more productive, and could cover the plane costs in a year or two.
I was trying to make a funny....calling California a socialist country...
"tough crowd, i'm here all week, try the veal. Don't forget to tip your waitress."
I thought you meant to ship Californians to socialist countries.
Lets not ship them to where they can walk back into the US, though, m'kay?
Californians already travel to socialist states. Portland.... ZING! :) “take my mother in law, please.”
Well I gather when one deports illegal aliens they are to be returned to their point of national origin. So, seeing as Mexico borders the USA, it is what it is, as far as Mexican nationals goes that are in the US illegally.
That’s why I said transit deportees to the most southern tip of Mexico. I am not sure one could deport Mexican nationals to any other nation, it’s not as if flying them to Belgium, they would take them, the Belgian gov would turn that plane around.
Hence this is why the Wall is important.
That whole "birthright citizenship" was intended for newly freed slaves, not so that any cunt that manages to shit out her spawn on American soil suddenly gets default citizenship because of her anchor-refuse.
That should have never been used the way it was used now and it's about goddamned time someone put an end to the bullshit!
I've never been really educated on this one particular bit: Does birthright citizenship refer to people who aren't citizens and having kids and the kid being a citizen just because it was born on our soil?
Doesn't have anything to do with a citizen's kid born here?
That’s right. If you’re American and have a kid here they’re citizens. What they want to end is birth tourism. Someone from China flies here shits out their kid and the kid gets citizenship and then 18 years later the parents do too.
Ah okay yeah that should be fixed for sure.
You aren't a citizen until you work to become a citizen, and the same goes for your offspring.
I think citizenship should be earned by everyone. Everyone should have to take the citizenship test. Should be easy for most people that grow up here. At the very least you should learn the constitution and some history.
I don't think I'd agree that everyone born here has to earn citizenship.
If my family has been here from the beginning of this country (half of my family was, the other half came during WW1 or 2 I can't remember off hand) why should I, if I were born today, have to take a test to be considered a citizen? That's a bit weird.
Now, teaching people American and Constitutionalist values is very important and fortunately when I was still in school this was still being taught.
The biggest part of being a citizen is voting. If you don’t know anything about the country should you be making decisions on who /how it’s governed? Since communists took over and stopped teaching civics schools this would be a way to reverse some of that.
Birthright citizenship is the idea that just because your mom happened to be on American soil when she gave birth to you grants you automatic citizenship to the US, which is not actually how it's supposed to work.
It was originally supposed to grant citizenship to the newly freed slaves and was chosen over the more difficult and costly plan of rounding up all of the black people in the US and shipping them back to Africa.
The Amendment very specifically states that anyone born on US soil whose parents are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States shall be granted citizenship.
The term "subject to the jurisdiction of the US" refers again to slaves and the children of slaves who were sold to citizens in the US and thus subject to our laws by legal means as a transfer of property.
This key phrase is what allows us to maintain our sovereignty and prevents the children of foreign ambassadors that are born in the US from becoming US citizens. Ambassadors and their families are subject to the jurisdiction of their home country, hence the diplomatic immunity they enjoy.
As a technical rule any child born in the US to non-US-citizen parents are actually considered nationals of whatever country their parents belong to (more specifically wherever the father is from).
However, in an effort to undermine the US Constitution, leftist lawyers have challenged this rule until courts have ruled in favor of the notion that anyone born on US soil is granted citizenship regardless of their parents' nationality.
This was done to skirt immigration laws to serve two purposes: 1) flood the market with cheap labor to drive down wages and drive up corporate profits and 2) accelerate demographic replacement of European-descended Americans.
“As a technical rule any child born in the US to non-US-citizen parents are actually considered nationals of whatever country their parents belong to (more specifically wherever the father is from)”
That’s how most other countries do it
From wikipedia
So it will be tricky .
Expelling the illegals, curbing immigration and the problem would be far smaller.
It isn't complicated at all except for VISA holders.
Sounds tricky to me. Unless you think the constitution is important only when it fits you.
That's the bit thats important: diplomats, etc. are not subject to the jurisdiction of the USA ... mor ar eillegal aliens since they are not here on the authorization of the FEDERAL gov. Visa holders, like I said, would be more tricky.
Yeah ... diplomats ... like diplomats were the problem. =))
Illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of USA that is why YOU CAN ARREST THEM and deport them . With the exception of diplomats ... I'm pretty certain that everybody within US borders is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
That is what makes it tricky.
The 14th Amendment was originally intended to give citizenship to the children of freed slaves. It was not meant to be abused in the CURRENT YEAR manner of rewarding illegal aliens with citizenship for their children (much less legalized abortion, same-sex marriage, etc.)
It’s about anyone born on USA soil regardless is a USA citizen
DO IT GOD EMPEROR FUCKING DO IT
100% THIS!!!
This is absolutely needed. It's the absolute BEST way to prevent family separations.
DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS
DACA= Deport All Criminal Aliens
Catapult on pay-per-view all illegals
I want to hope, but too much else going on right now.
Good.
I'll settled for MAGA tested citizenship. Gotta get up to 100k either comment or post updoots here on TD.
Gotta work hard then, I wanna move to the US but lack karma lul
This is an article from 2019?
Please
He should make dual citizenship illegal too. People should be forced to choose between loyalty to America and loyalty to their "home country". A person can only have one home, either its America or it isn't. Dual citizens shouldn't be voting either.
All of the restrictions on running for president should also be placed on voting and on holding office. 18 year olds are too stupid to be voting, the logic that says that person needs to be 35 years old to be qualified for the presidential office is completely negated by allowing people who aren't at least as mature as 35 year olds to vote for president. its like asking a group of morons to pick who the smartest person is, its a mortal lock that they'll get it wrong.
It doesn't seem unreasonable that a person should have the basic qualifications necessary to serve in office to be qualified to express an opinion on who should be serving in that office. How is it even possible for an unqualified person to have the necessary insight required to make a good choice?
Obumma?
I disagree. What if a free born American citizen wants to hold citizenship in a second country and maintain homes and properties abroad? Maybe they fly back and forth and maintain residence in different countries during different parts of the year. Why shouldn't they be able to do that if they can afford to? If I am a free born American citizen I should be able to go anywhere I please on this damn earth or moon or other planets and as long as I'm paying taxes to the USA, why not?
And as far as voting, base it on taxes. If I paid a certain percentage of my income in taxes to the US, then I can vote that year. Anyone who didn't, can't. This prevents non-patriotic Americans who leech off of our system from voting, citizen or not. Only people with a vested interest get the vote.
You should get as many votes as dollars you net pay to the government.
About three years too late, but with the grace of God, he’ll have four more years to fix this shit.
18 months ago?!?!
Year old article. Full support for GEOTUS to do this.
AMERICA has been taken advantage of long enough!
Can be backdate this law?
This needed to be done a LONG time ago. We are like the only country that does this. I really hope be can get reelected.
Again? It doesn't need more looking into, nothing has changed since that last time he looked into it. JUST END IT.
By "experts" I assume they mean Leftist activists. The 14th Amendment has been abused for various Leftist Agenda causes that it was never meant to apply to (Roe vs Wade, same-sex marriage, etc.) Encouraging chain-migration and "birth tourism" by abusing the 14th Amendment to reward the children of illegal aliens with citizenship (and thus, rewarding their families and extended families with citizenship) is preposterous.
Frankly since we have been flooded by refugees and unwanted immigrants for far too long, clearly now against our will since officials cheated to become elected, there should be a moratorium on immigration for 10 years. Rare exceptions for individuals who have major contributions to make. THAT would MAGA!
It was changed in my country (Ireland) many years ago, more than 10 or so. When there was an influx of "asylum seekers" from Europe and UK with a month or two to go before having their babies.
Oh god stop, I can only get so erect!!
PLEASE. Such a detriment to this country and such a bad interpretation of the constitution.
He said that 4 years ago.
And discussed how the wording of the constitution doesn't say those born illegally get citizenship. It says those born to naturalized or something.
Btw kamala's parents weren't citizens when she was born here so she can't be president.
This gets kind of tricky though, there are some that come to the US under certain circumstances and have kids and over the years become citizens (independent of their kids status).
I should know, this is what happened with my family. They escaped a communist shithole.
YES PLEASE.
Clearly election system reform is a necessary item too.
Oh they have a brain. They know damn well our election security is third world shithole-tier but they keep it that way because how else do you easily cheat?
Do it now!
WE MUST PREVAIL
I thought he already did that with an EO?
LATIN LESSON: jus soli
This should have happened 50 years ago!
Why post this from 2019?
YES please!
retroactive! Kamala loses citizenship.
Did you catch we won the lawsuit so the wall can continue?
Masterful misdirection move by Trump, gives the libtards a new bone to chase while the attorneys dig into the real work. Expect more exportations!
He's getting his base excited while making liberals cry. God I love him
DOO IT!!!!
Ruh-roh Cum-allah
I'd rather we just focus on ending illegal immigration. Even if we make birthright citizenship illegal, people are still going to come here illegally. Women are not going to stop because they're pregnant. They're also not going to stop having kids here. The only thing that's gonna change is that you're gonna have even more people defined as illegal aliens in the US.
Illegals typically don't get welfare as easily if everyone is illegal in the family, but they can get welfare easily if they have a baby here. It's a loophole to get around it.
Good, need to be done a while back.
No need to end something that doesn't actually exist. Very few countries have this stupid policy and the constitution is very clear.. get the Supreme Court to clarify
Fixed it for you. Illegals and their invader children can GTFO.
Did you read the article big brain?