Not much of a choice at this point. Either deep state backs down and allows Trump to be re-elected as the voters want, or we are going to have a civil war unfortunately.
While that is wishful thinking....I remain skeptical. The military and intelligence agencies are compartmentalized which means whoever is calling the shots/putting the pieces in play....they are able to remain unseen and unaccountable in a sea of "classified" bureaucracy. A bureaucracy which is full of unwitting helpers who are just doing tasks set before them. This is the industrial complex that Eisenhower warned about.
The Germans also had their own version of the “Bill of Rights”. It really didn’t help them that much, did it? Just like the American Bill of Rights is not enforced today. What? You think that the Utah data Collection Center obeys the fourth amendment? What? People, the entire purpose of the regulatory agency the ATF is to infringe on the second amendment. Know your history. Do not allow yourself to be disarmed. Never allow yourself to be disarmed. That is the worst thing that you can do. Do not be a fool. Disarmed people obey the government when they are herded into the cattle cars.
Leftists develop hard power after they have successfully subverted a culture or nation. Don't make the mistake that it isn't something they can manifest, because they will if left unchecked in the phase we're currently in.
As a resident of CA, there’s a lot of cucks here who’d be all too happy to give China a foothold for cash and a guarantee of safety, not understanding that they’ll be disposed of once they outlive their usefulness. Though, I doubt they’d be able to get through our insane naval power.
No, China could use a breakdown in the US to attack and capture targets in its sphere such as India, Japan and of course, Taiwan. Russia might likewise do so on a smaller scale to their West.
You need to think differently. The support has all been put in place for them to use. The critical node is the people. Stop them before they start. Head of the snake and work your way down.
It would have to be intense and fast if we're talking kinetic.
If its not the above then all the US+Allies has to do is setup a navy blockade. They are a net importer of food.
Yeah, that's right. The most populace country on earth can't feed itself and has insufficient oil. They'd be fucked if they can't get the job done fast.
I think you're right -- he will not (at least it is not at all likely -- never say never, after all). Whether it goes all the way to the nuclear option is still in question. (and no, I don't mean nukes; it's a figure of speech).
While you may be right about it resolving the unresolvable, and sometimes necessary, if you just see it as “uncomfortable “, then you are likely a sociopath or psycopath, commie shill, or a wannabe LARP.
It may be necessary and unavoidable, but is a lot more than just “uncomfortable “.
Me too but I will tell you Ive spent many years in countries at war. It is very disruptive and for many way more than just uncomfortable. There will be lots of death and disease however, if our side does it correct, only liberal cities will be battlegrounds. Then the insurgency of leftist will begin and we will have to hunt them down one at a time or in small cells. These peoples masters built isis. They are acrually very good at as long S there is little push back like the riots of late. We will crush them and many decent t people will suffer and die too. Statistically 1 person from every 3 families die in a shooting civil war. 5 percent. About 16 million people. That's a war to respect and a bit more than u comfortable.
Fuck yeah. Let’s resurrect the Viking mentality - some things need to die for others to live. What if I want to talk of peace and understanding, but you only understand the language of the sword?
I don't see a civil war as a particularly bad thing, rather a temporarily uncomfortable thing.
You've clearly never seen a day of combat in your life, and that's not a bad thing. You would do well to try everything in your power to keep it that way, because every single day is a day where you will quite possibly not make it home to go to bed and wake up the next morning.
People are rightly apprehensive given history's examples of civil war, including our own. They can be devastating, and worse, weaken us at a time that enemies abroad will act to expand and consolidate their own power. The latter may be the biggest risk by far.
Violence and war against our own countrymen should be an absolute last resort. We should try everything else before even going to that option.
Most people don't want to kill people. Especially their brothers. The civil war devastated us as a people. Especially to our morale. It creates animosity too. One side is seen is as the subjugator.
War messes people up. Permanently. This isn't Call of Duty. You don't get to respawn and targets don't vanish once the poly count has been reached. The last thing anyone would want is to harm others. Only when pushed to the brink should that option even be considered. I don't want to see my friends and family have half their face shot off and screaming in agony, or burned by a car bomb, or ambushed from a high rise to rack up body counts. I don't want to hear them scream in pain or drown in their own blood. I don't want to see their limbs destroyed or blown off. I don't want to smell singed hair and melted flesh. I don't want to see the blank stares in peoples eyes that can't recall the horror's of what they've seen and done.
Atrocities are performed on both sides. If there was a civil war, imagine the rampant rape, theft, murder, and brutality that would occur.
That is the only major downside of civil war. If its not dealt with quickly then we risk being swept up by another country. That is why I think if this does happen, its going to end fast. 0-100 real quick. Preferably avoid engagements altogether and night of the long knives this shit.
Not much of a choice at this point. Either deep state backs down and allows Trump to be re-elected as the voters want, or we are going to have a civil war unfortunately.
It’ll be swift and quick, without the cia and fbi the elites have no more control
I think Trump loyalists would be quick to take them out. More of us than them. And we won't obey
I am really glad o hear this. I pray you are correct.
While that is wishful thinking....I remain skeptical. The military and intelligence agencies are compartmentalized which means whoever is calling the shots/putting the pieces in play....they are able to remain unseen and unaccountable in a sea of "classified" bureaucracy. A bureaucracy which is full of unwitting helpers who are just doing tasks set before them. This is the industrial complex that Eisenhower warned about.
Don't obey.
from https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/what-the-progressive-liberals-have-in-store-for-conservatives/
I think we know who they are already
Watching
Leftists are all about subversion. They don’t have any hard power like conservatives.
Leftists develop hard power after they have successfully subverted a culture or nation. Don't make the mistake that it isn't something they can manifest, because they will if left unchecked in the phase we're currently in.
China
Walk me through what China could do short of a ballistic missile with a nuke or emp?
Land invasion? Lol nope. It’ll be worse than Normandy. They won’t even make it to the beach.
Provide material support? I don’t see it. Too many Patriots with many many guns will rally to, and fight for, Trump
Good point. They would infiltrate, not invade -- and they would likely do so with proxies. This is what Iran has done in the ME.
As a resident of CA, there’s a lot of cucks here who’d be all too happy to give China a foothold for cash and a guarantee of safety, not understanding that they’ll be disposed of once they outlive their usefulness. Though, I doubt they’d be able to get through our insane naval power.
No, China could use a breakdown in the US to attack and capture targets in its sphere such as India, Japan and of course, Taiwan. Russia might likewise do so on a smaller scale to their West.
Nukes. You think Beijing Biden would nuke back?
You need to think differently. The support has all been put in place for them to use. The critical node is the people. Stop them before they start. Head of the snake and work your way down.
Its pronounced GY-na
It would have to be intense and fast if we're talking kinetic.
If its not the above then all the US+Allies has to do is setup a navy blockade. They are a net importer of food.
Yeah, that's right. The most populace country on earth can't feed itself and has insufficient oil. They'd be fucked if they can't get the job done fast.
I giggle when people say what if Biden does end up being president.
You're not ready for what would happen. Go back to your bubble
I think you're right -- he will not (at least it is not at all likely -- never say never, after all). Whether it goes all the way to the nuclear option is still in question. (and no, I don't mean nukes; it's a figure of speech).
We’re already in a cold civil war. It’s similar to the Israel-Palastein conflict. There are shots fired, but no formal declaration.
While you may be right about it resolving the unresolvable, and sometimes necessary, if you just see it as “uncomfortable “, then you are likely a sociopath or psycopath, commie shill, or a wannabe LARP.
It may be necessary and unavoidable, but is a lot more than just “uncomfortable “.
Correct. Quite literally, “War is Hell.”
Ima be that one guy whose excited to be there that you find either really depressed later on, or full OG level 99 like Lt.Col. Speirs
Split that in half, add a dash of pissed off, a dash of fun, some Copenhagen, and half eaten pile of cookies, and you'll be just about right.
I gave you four choices.
Funny to see which one offended you.
Me too but I will tell you Ive spent many years in countries at war. It is very disruptive and for many way more than just uncomfortable. There will be lots of death and disease however, if our side does it correct, only liberal cities will be battlegrounds. Then the insurgency of leftist will begin and we will have to hunt them down one at a time or in small cells. These peoples masters built isis. They are acrually very good at as long S there is little push back like the riots of late. We will crush them and many decent t people will suffer and die too. Statistically 1 person from every 3 families die in a shooting civil war. 5 percent. About 16 million people. That's a war to respect and a bit more than u comfortable.
Fuck yeah. Let’s resurrect the Viking mentality - some things need to die for others to live. What if I want to talk of peace and understanding, but you only understand the language of the sword?
You've clearly never seen a day of combat in your life, and that's not a bad thing. You would do well to try everything in your power to keep it that way, because every single day is a day where you will quite possibly not make it home to go to bed and wake up the next morning.
People are rightly apprehensive given history's examples of civil war, including our own. They can be devastating, and worse, weaken us at a time that enemies abroad will act to expand and consolidate their own power. The latter may be the biggest risk by far.
No, not at all. I'm completely on the "fight" train because the alternative is a dystopia humanity may never escape.
Violence and war against our own countrymen should be an absolute last resort. We should try everything else before even going to that option.
Most people don't want to kill people. Especially their brothers. The civil war devastated us as a people. Especially to our morale. It creates animosity too. One side is seen is as the subjugator.
War messes people up. Permanently. This isn't Call of Duty. You don't get to respawn and targets don't vanish once the poly count has been reached. The last thing anyone would want is to harm others. Only when pushed to the brink should that option even be considered. I don't want to see my friends and family have half their face shot off and screaming in agony, or burned by a car bomb, or ambushed from a high rise to rack up body counts. I don't want to hear them scream in pain or drown in their own blood. I don't want to see their limbs destroyed or blown off. I don't want to smell singed hair and melted flesh. I don't want to see the blank stares in peoples eyes that can't recall the horror's of what they've seen and done.
Atrocities are performed on both sides. If there was a civil war, imagine the rampant rape, theft, murder, and brutality that would occur.
That is the only major downside of civil war. If its not dealt with quickly then we risk being swept up by another country. That is why I think if this does happen, its going to end fast. 0-100 real quick. Preferably avoid engagements altogether and night of the long knives this shit.
It’s unfortunate because I’ll fight in it and I love my family and I would prefer to see my kids grow up than be dead.
I have more to lose than anyone. A very successful business that I’ve slaved over building that is now very lucrative to me, and a wonderful family.
Tell me where to be and what guns to bring, and I’m more than willing to fight and die for the Republic.
If someone like me feels that way, I imagine there are a lot more.
Just depends on if Trump stands ground and doesn’t concede; the citizen militia that organizes to defend him at that point will be mind blowing.